The arms master has already been charged. No one really knows why live ammo was on set besides it was mixed into the blanks they bought and the arms master didn’t check properly.
You might be getting confused with the circumstances around Brandon Lee’s death on the set of the Crow, which makes sense since that has been a hot topic when discussing the situation on Rust’s set. As I understand it, in the case of Lee’s death, they had taken live rounds and “converted” them to dummy rounds by removing the bullets, dumping out the gunpowder from the cartridge, and then reinstalling the bullets. However, they did not remove the primer from the cartridges, because they wanted the bottom of the cases to look pristine for shots where the revolver was loaded.
At some point, one of these “dummy” (but still very much not inert, thanks to the primer) rounds was accidentally fired. Because they had removed the propellent, only the primer detonated. This provided enough force to dislodge the bullet from the case, but not enough to expel it out the barrel. No one checked the barrel before a blank was loaded into weapon for the scene where Lee’s character was shot. Blank detonated, dummy bullet is dislodged, Lee is killed.
So, while both productions are staggering examples of safety protocol failures on film sets, the circumstances are differ in the details.
If only they let other candidates get the same amount of ballot access in the primaries that Biden got instead of running a sham primary and having the most nationally popular democrats abstain from even running in it.
If Democrats listened to their constituents, they could have forseen the need to replace Biden. Im positive Newsom and Williamson would have ran in the primaries if they knew it was going to come down to replacing Biden anyway. The only reason they didn’t was to hold the party line and show unity. Well they made their bed, and now the whole country has to lie in it.
There are exemptions from the law, such as those wearing masks for health or religious reasons. But who gets to decide how to enforce that distinction? The legislature’s top Republican insisted police will be able to identify the difference.
Ah, the old “I know it’s a medical condition when I see it” policy that we’ve come to rely on police to assess.
Oof and Nassau and Suffolk County PDs are terrible. Suffolk cops are the ones that burst into laughter when TFG addressed them and said (paraphrased) “Why do you care so much when putting someone in the back of your police car, protecting their head? Maybe next time don’t worry about it.”
Oh I have no doubt they’ll pull masks off of anyone they feel like. They’ll probably use this as an excuse to pull a transparent oxygen mask from a senior citizen because it “hides their identity.”
Yeah… My home county. Trump land, rich & very poor people, but aggressive assholes none the less absolutely everywhere. Home of the $500k burned down shack masquerading as a “starter home.”
The sad thing is that I would not even be a little surprised if they tried to claim something maybe only slightly less broadly than that non-sarcastically.
There’s a longstanding thing in medicine that black people don’t feel as much pain as white people. It was never true, but for some reason it was believed for a long time.
Things like that are slowly changing, and dark-skin-color prosthetics and textbooks showing e.g. symptoms that present differently on dark skin as light skin, or testing drugs on women instead of only on men and assuming the women probably react like smaller men, etc etc. But a really surprising amount of it has survived even into the modern day.
The pain sensitivity thing is the tip of the iceberg. Look at the shit they were saying about black people either being immune to or much less likely to contract COVID: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8530468/
Their fucking racism will get their own race killed just as much as the race they hate.
The thing for someone like me who is immunocrompromised is. I need to wear a mask because I have a medical condition.
But also my immediate family and anyone interacting with me needs to wear a mask when in public. Covid is a death sentence for me. So this law doesn’t cover that.
That’s because, and I’m really sorry to say this, they don’t give a shit whether you live or die. If you die, it’s God’s will, even if they’re the cause.
Like it’s one thing for people to not want to wear a mask. Fucking bonkers to make a law banning them. Are criminals gonna be like “shit guys, guess we can’t crime any more”
Also, it’s already a crime for people to steal shit and cause trouble. Even if they aren’t wearing a mask, cops are unlikely to catch these people.
So glad she didn’t get elected to higher office. She’s as dumb as santos with a slightly less sketchy background. Looks like she’s doing ehat she can to spread the dumb though.
It’s not intended for productive effect. It’s a way to identify people who aren’t loyal to the orders of the tribe, and get violent with them.
As it does for a lot of other things, “On Tyranny” by Tim Snyder breaks this down very very well. He talks about the power of symbols, Nazi pins and yellow stars and the “Trump” flag and things like that, in the growth of fascist movements, and the important often overlooked role they play in starting to shape the fabric of day-to-day ordinary people’s lives in obedience to the leader, and engaging ordinary people in enforcing it.
The thing with banning masks isn’t about improving society in any way; as you point out, it’s pure nonsense looked at in that light. It’s about identifying the ones who won’t get in line.
I was talking to a coworker recently about past work experiences and how crazy COVID-19 was when it first came out. I was working at a hospital, not the normal medical kind but a state run psychiatric hospital. Still its a hospital that behaves in hospital ways, especially when it comes to communicable diseases.
So its November 2019 and word is that there is a nasty respiratory disease making its way in the medical news, everyone is a little nervous but we are in eastern Washington, in a small town. The world is very far away, until it isnt.
December comes and the first case of COVID one of my coworkers who had a history of health problems dies a couple weeks after catching COVID. His at home caretaker dies from COVID. His wife who also works at the hospital gets COVID but she tells us she didn’t even really notice it.
That was just the beginning. After about 5 deaths of employees at the hospital they stopped telling us.
I will never forget one person. He called me on a Thursday and left a voicemail requesting I call him back because he hates to go through the help desk and likes a human touch and enjoys my conversations.
I called him back but he went home sick. I tried calling him the next week but he was still out. A week later I go to his desk to see if he is there and there are a bunch of his coworkers there. He passed away over the weekend, COVID won.
I have worked in the hospital/medical industry for over 20 years. 16+ of those were at the # 1 trauma center in Washington State.
I don’t know how so many people can believe this was all just a hoax. I will forever have a great and deep seated hate for people expressing doubt about the deadliness of the disease.
Tens of millions? Those are rookie numbers. And it happened for exactly the same reasons, and the fuckers KNEW what they were doing. They just wanted to get rich, and didn’t care if it literally destroyed the world. And now the piper’s coming.
But COVID infections still disable around 2% of people who contract it for life. Now let covid keep on running around for a couple decades and a very large chunk of the population is going to have major issues.
I’m bedridden since 4 years with a lifelong disease caused by a covid infection. And I only see our numbers growing. 2% per infection is the most conservative estimate. The NIH says 5%
Oh I am not saying you are wrong. I still have some minor but significant effects from having had Covid a couple of years ago. I’m saying that global warming once it starts fucking up the food supply will kill on a scale that’s unimaginable to people who currently live in largely safe orderly war/famine free type countries.
I’m very sorry to hear that about your friend and experience. And thank you for your service!
But the answer is simple: it’s a cult. They are brainwashed (and ironically think everyone else are the ones brainwashed). So it doesn’t make sense and they just ignore that or have cognitive dissonance.
And unfortunately it’s just very difficult to dismantle a cult. Just look at scientology/mormonism/jw/etc.
So are they saying covid masks are fine since it’s for health reasons but face coverings are not fine? Also, do religious reasons only apply to women covering their faces? The Satanic Church allows me to do whatever I want.
Does that mean as a Satanist, that the bodily autonomy tenet includes masking to avoid airborne illnesses, even if I am at a protest against the march of fascism?
I don’t understand, people already had to be US citizens to vote. Is this a distraction tactic?
Who might be barred from registering to vote under this? The naturalized and foreign birth citizens are the most likely people to have passports for ID/registration purposes. I think you already had to provide such ID in the past, so what does this change, effectively?
A poor white person who doesn’t travel will likely not have a passport, and may also not be able to locate their birth certificate in time. So again, who is this law meant to disenfranchise?
This case has been going on for a while. Offhand, I can think of at least three toddlers who killed themselves or someone else using a gun that the owner knew was loaded.
None of those adults has been arrested. But the guy who was told his gun had blanks is responsible?
This one is his negligence trial, in the trial about him as a producer it came out that he was also messing around with the gun on set and had fired blanks at the crew between takes among other unsafe behaviors.
Also, look at the first minute of a major Hollywood movie; there are often a dozen companies involved. I remember one wrestling show that seemed to have more producers than wrestlers involved.
So it’s not exactly about the shooting itself but creating the negligent conditions that allowed it to happen. From what I understand, as a producer he had his crew cut as many safety corners as possible to reduce costs. His direction to cut corners led to oversights in safety, which led to the prop masters making safety mistakes and accidentslly loading a live round into a firearm designated as a prop, which led to a person dying because of an on set accident. If he didn’t direct his crew to cut corners, the chances of somebody dying is dramatically reduced and makes this line of work incredibly safe despite the potentially dangerous implements used.
So the case is about “did the executive decisions Baldwin make to cut corners on safety contribute to the death of someone on set?”
No. Different people are responsible for bringing those other cases to trial. I agree that those other cases should be tried but that’s a terrible argument for not prosecuting this one.
They should be. Is that your point? That they should be, because I think any sane person would agree.
If you’re arguing that the responsible parties in this incident shouldn’t be prosecuted because another person is getting away with manslaughter… well that’s a bit silly isn’t it?
I can’t tell what your intentions are, because nuance is hard via text
My point is that this is a selective prosecution. Either treat Baldwin like the parents, or treat the parents like Baldwin. Laws should be applied fairly.
That being said, usually the prosecutorial imbalance is against the weak and powerless. In this case, a man with more power, money, and influence than most of us will ever see in a lifetime is being held responsible for cutting corners. Can you imagine if Boeing execs were actually held accountable? Or Chase/BoA/Wells Fargo et. al.? It rarely happens.
Is it unjust that the protection is selective? Yes. In the balance, I’d rather the scales be weighted against the powerful, rather than how it normally is.
That’s just taking the comparison in bad faith. It’s not about net worth, it’s about their power and responsibility. Who’s at fault for Boeing’s planes failing? The execs cutting corners to maximize profits or the minimum wage employees just doing what they’re told?
You seem weirdly invested in Alec Baldwin’s well-being. I don’t think there’s anything productive left to be said about this, so I’ll wish you peace, and long life
The manslaughter trial against Alec Baldwin over the fatal shooting of Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins has been dismissed. Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer threw out the case over how police and prosecutors treated a handful of bullets, which they failed to turn over to the defence.
“The state is highly culpable for its failure to provide discovery to the defendant,” Judge Sommer said. “Dismissal with prejudice is warranted.” The dismissal came as a surprise as gasps were said to be heard in the courtroom and Baldwin was congratulated by his family and supporter
If a worker dies in a factory line while following instructions, we would all agree that owners of the factory should be held responsible. I don’t see why that concept is so difficult to grasp here and so many people are trying to defend Alec Balwdin. The filming set is a workplace and someone died through no fault of their own, but rather by the conditions set by the owners of this production. There were complaints on set about the safety conditions before this incident happened and it seems that nothing was done to mitigate it. Everyone is trying to throw the armorer under the bus, but she was hired and vetted by management, and even after complaints nothing was changed.
First, that’s not the situation. The boss isn’t responsible if a second worker creates a dangerous situation without the owner’s knowledge or consent.
Be that as it may, I’m not defending Baldwin; I’m pointing out that a lot of people with much more personal responsibility don’t get in trouble when toddlers kill.
It was somewhat the same with smoking. We were able to ban smoking from workplaces decades ago by virtue of worker protections and the known health impact. However even today your kid’s lungs have no such protection
Yes they should be, now leave the non sequitur discussion derailing nonsense at the door and stay on topic. Parents being irresponsible dumbasses has nothing to do with a film exec directing his crew to cut safety corners to save a quick buck.
All prosecution is selective. Parents do get prosecuted for the death of their children. People get arrested for participating in peaceful protests while neonazis march in the streets. People speed past cops as they’re pulling someone else over. Unless you want to live in a world where a cop watches your every move and locks you away without trial, it’s impossible to prosecute every single crime that happens.
The manslaughter trial against Alec Baldwin over the fatal shooting of Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins has been dismissed. Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer threw out the case over how police and prosecutors treated a handful of bullets, which they failed to turn over to the defence.
“The state is highly culpable for its failure to provide discovery to the defendant,” Judge Sommer said. “Dismissal with prejudice is warranted.” The dismissal came as a surprise as gasps were said to be heard in the courtroom and Baldwin was congratulated by his family and supporter
Fuck off, stop arguing in bad faith, it’s patently clear to everyone in this thread you’re arguing in bad faith.
Did you read anything I commented or are you going to strut around like a pigeon on a chessboard arguing a nonsequitur nobody was arguing and everyone already broadly agrees with?
Agreeing that parents should be prosecuted for improperly storing firearms around children, which sidenote a simple fucking google search shows that parents often are prosecuted for improperly storing firearms but they’re not famous actor and producer Alec Baldwin so it doesn’t make national news, is not agreeing to the idea of not prosecute Alec Baldwin for directing his crew to cut corners in safety protocols.
The manslaughter trial against Alec Baldwin over the fatal shooting of Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins has been dismissed. Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer threw out the case over how police and prosecutors treated a handful of bullets, which they failed to turn over to the defence.
“The state is highly culpable for its failure to provide discovery to the defendant,” Judge Sommer said. “Dismissal with prejudice is warranted.” The dismissal came as a surprise as gasps were said to be heard in the courtroom and Baldwin was congratulated by his family and supporter
The armorer was apparently target shooting with the gun some time before the scene was being filmed, and left a round chambered. That’s my understanding anyway.
Why the fuck the arms master was using prop guns for target shooting is something I’ll never understand.
Baldwin then practiced the “cross draw” move and pointed the gun toward the camera, helmed by Hutchins, Souza and a camera operator. Suddenly, they heard a loud bang.
I had previously interpreted descriptions like this as goofing around - I used to do stuff like that with cap guns as a kid - but yeah, you’re probably right
I think it’s relevant whether he observed unsafe practices on set. It sounds like the whole thing was kind of a shit show. Plus the investigation concluded that the gun could not have fired without him pulling the trigger. Pointing a gun at someone and firing when you have reason to believe that proper safety precautions haven’t been followed is exactly the sort of thing that might end up with an involuntary manslaughter charge. I dunno if he gets convicted but I don’t think the charges are crazy.
Baldwin made fun of Trump a bunch of times on SNL. It had already been ruled involuntary manslaughter, but maga court had a bone to pick.
Additionally - a *half truth from chat frickin GPT:
“In a tense political climate, Alec Baldwin’s satirical portrayal of President Donald Trump on “Saturday Night Live” had garnered significant attention and polarized opinions. His impersonations were both celebrated and criticized, drawing ire from Trump supporters who saw his performances as disrespectful and damaging.
On the set of the film “Rust,” an unfortunate and tragic accident occurred, leading to the death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins. As investigations began, initial findings suggested that the incident was a result of a series of safety lapses and negligence on the part of the production team, including Baldwin, who was both an actor and a producer on the film.
Enter District Attorney Thomas Harlan, a staunch supporter of President Trump, appointed during Trump’s tenure. Harlan had previously expressed disdain for Baldwin’s portrayals of Trump, believing them to be part of a broader media conspiracy against conservative values.
Seizing the opportunity presented by the “Rust” incident, Harlan decided to press charges against Baldwin with unusual fervor. He argued that Baldwin’s role as a producer made him directly responsible for the safety lapses on set, thus filing charges of involuntary manslaughter against him. Critics claimed that the intensity and speed of the charges were disproportionate compared to similar cases in the industry, suggesting political motivations behind Harlan’s actions.
Supporters of Baldwin and various legal analysts argued that the charges were a clear case of political retribution. They pointed out that other individuals with similar roles in previous on-set accidents had not faced such severe charges. Furthermore, they highlighted Harlan’s public statements and connections to pro-Trump groups as evidence of his bias.
The media frenzy intensified, with pundits on both sides debating whether Baldwin was being unfairly targeted due to his political satire. This scenario underscores the complexities of mixing legal actions with political motivations, ultimately raising questions about the impartiality of justice in a highly polarized environment.”
Are you seriously asking? Did you ever see the things Trump used to tweet during those SNL performances? Have you seen any right wing commentary? Hell no they’re not third graders, when my kids were in third grade they were thoughtful, empathetic people who could follow basic logic, compromise, and lose gracefully.
The first time I was online was in the 90’s. I always heard the “don’t believe everything you read online” thing, but it honestly wasn’t ever a worry up until about two-three years ago.
Being in a Nevada prison in July without any cooling mechanisms sounds like cruel and unusual punishment to me, so I assume if this turns into a suit and that suit reaches SCOTUS, their ruling will be “go for it!”
It’s not like the president does everything personally. It comes down to administrations to me, Would I rather be governed by a Trump administration or a Biden administration? Definitely Biden for me.
I can say good things about Biden. I think Biden’s positions on most issues (except Israel) and his administration are fine.
Hey, if we just ignore the ongoing genocide Biden unequivocally supports and went around Congress to supply munitions to…
His policy is “fine”!
/s
Like, bruh…
The only thing you specifically mentioned was the bad shit
You literally didn’t say a single good thing about Biden, even when you apparently just put a non-zero amount of thought into coming up with a single good thing…
That doesn’t concern you at all about the quality of candidate?
Biden expanded overtime pay guarantees for millions of workers, offered legal immigrant status to 500,000 spouses of US citizens who have lived in the US at least 10 years, has so far prevented a recession, expanded access to over-the-counter contraceptives, expanded renewable energy programs, with the CFPB saved citizens billions of dollars of junk bank fees (and got the current Supreme Court to uphold the CFPB), worked with a bipartisan group of senators to reform the election process to help prevent another Jan 6 type stunt, and the Inflation Reduction Act which includes funding for things like the study of greenhouse gas effects on farming and a 50% reduction of greenhouse gas emissions by 2030. The Biden administration does things to help citizens.
Similarly, child “treatment” programs are using improper restraints on children all the time. I’m not talking about overtly abusive places like the Elan School, I’m talking about places that supposedly get regular health and DCS inspections.
This is one in my town and it is in no way unusual if you look at reviews for such facilities.
The allegations include complaints that restraint holds are used on children, not because the kids are a threat to themselves or others, but as a form of retribution.
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Sallee says he witnessed a restraint of a 10 year old boy. The supervisors he observed restraining the child did not use a child restraint.
Instead, Sallee says two grown men, one weighing close to 300 pounds put their body weight on the child’s back and legs.
“I noticed his breathing was irregular, he could barely speak because they were suffocating him,” Sallee said.
Sallee says the supervisors twisted the boys arms and informed him that he was being restrained because he was going to attempt to flee the facility in the snow without a coat or shoes.
Sallee observed the child was wearing both.
And no, DCS didn’t do shit. They had them do an internal investigation:
After reporting what he saw to the department of child services and reaching out to the media, Sallee says Gibault conducted an internal investigation.
The two employees were suspended.
I sat down with a former co-worker who was hesitant to come forward and asked to remain anonymous.
I was told that the employees’ suspension was brief and they did return to Gibault.
…Believing he was being unjustly detained, he yelled and cursed at officers who put him in a restraint chair at the county jail.
When I was a kid my parents sent me to an upscale private boarding school. When we were speaking to superiors, we had to yell loud enough to shake walls. When we didn’t yell loud enough, we were punished. This yelling mandate/training went on for an entire year called the plebe year. Yet, when we yell in real-life adult situations, we are somehow considered insane and dangerous? Perhaps states should not allow schools to intentionally teach yelling as a compulsory-school training technique?
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