They didn’t though. They came alarmingly close to overturning a performative ceremony that has no actual bearing on the election. Do you really think Trump would have become president if they had succeeded in stopping the count? It had already been counted, just not officially. That’s how stupid these people are.
Saddam Hussein seized power by essentially doing this. If they’d gone in, captured Congress and executed anyone who disagreed that’s pretty much game over. I’m convinced the only reason we’re not in a full civil war today is that Trump was too lazy to lead the march over to the Capitol.
The votes were already counted. No number of congresspeople executed would change the results of the election. It would just put Trump in far, far, far more legal jeopardy than he’s in now and he’s in a lot.
What precise actions do you think would be taken if a sitting president successfully murders the president elect and the opposition party, and for that matter any judges who disagree with him.
I’d be interested in hearing how you think that plays out in reality opposed to this “just world” you seem to imagine yourself living in.
Bad move by the WGA boards. While I hope the TA is good and meets all demands, the workers literally haven’t seen it yet, let alone voted on it. You always want to have the strongest strike possible, and part of that is that no work gets done until a new contract is delivered, approved, and put in place. This puts the union in a weak position if the TA gets voted down.
While that may be true, they are probably also weighing that this has been a long strike. I don’t know about you, but if I had to go 100+ days without working, my finances would be a wreck. Reality is, people gotta eat
I literally have no idea, but I assume that the strike cannot go on forever. Though, since I made my previous comment I’ve learned that the striking members are still able to work, so long as it isn’t WGA specific stuff (which seems fairly obvious, and I feel dumb for not realizing it). So, while it’s lesser paying stuff, those who really need it can still get work to hold them over.
As a Teamster, if I strike I get 80% of my pay (well above minimum wage) and I get their health care. Starting day one of the strike. Used to have to be on strike for two weeks, but it changed.
Not just the writers either, the entire industry is at a standstill while this plays out, and now they’ve gotta wait for the writers to actually write before productions start back up again. Lots of people will be out of work until spring probably.
The WGA also released the complete 94-page contract and a summary of the new terms. The deal includes gains in compensation, a new requirement for minimum staff levels in TV writers rooms, improvement payment terms for screenwriters and protections for the use of artificial intelligence in the writing process
It sounds like everything they were asking for. I don’t think they’d move forward so aggressively if the deal was weak.
Saying that the strike failed is playing into the studio’s hands. WGA considers the strike a victory, and furthermore, the studio downplaying the strike’s agreement is a disinformation campaign they had done before.
Twitter thread by David Slack @/slack2thefuture:
“As WGA leaders meet today to finalize our deal, we begin a new era for writers — and for labor in our industry. But we also begin to face the final and most insidious form of unionbusting propaganda: a years-long effort to sell the lie that our strike was not worth it.
Over the coming days, months, and years, the studios, streamers, and their surrogates will take every opportunity to undermine what we have won together. They will seize on the inevitable consessions and compromises made by our NegCom as proof that we “failed.”
They will urge us to overlook all that we won through hard work and unwavering solidarity. They will claim it wasn’t enough, that we should have gotten X instead of Y, that we lost more by striking than we gained in this new contract. And they will be wrong.
They will tell us that the strike was unnecessary, it was a waste of our time and our savings, that our agents or managers or lawyers could have gotten us everything we won through individual negotiations without anyone having to walk a picket line. Well… then why didn’t they?
As hard as it is to believe right now, these lies can work. They’ve worked before. During our 2017 strike authorization vote, it was shocking to discover how many members believed we lost the ‘07-08 strike, in which we went on strike for the internet — and won the internet.
This didn’t happen by accident. It was the result of years of whispering by studios and anti-union allies. And they don’t just do it because they’re bitter about losing. They push the lie that we used our power and lost because they hope to stop us from using our power to win.
Our strike was necessary because, in our individual negotiations, our employers consistently refused to acknowledge our right and reasonable demands. Because the profound changes we needed could only be won through the unique and overwhelming power of collective bargaining.
Our strike was necessary because our employers made it necessary by driving our income down 23% in 10 years. Because they refused to address free work in features, streaming coverage in comedy-variety, the abuses of mini-rooms and the threat of AI until we withheld our labor
Our strike was necessary. Our strike was effective. Our strike is a victory. If anyone tries to tell you otherwise, it’s ‘cause they never want to see us stand up for ourselves again. Don’t believe it. We won this fight. We’re the WGA, and when we fight, we win. #WGAStrong”
FYI I never said that the strike had failed or anything to that effect, I just said it was a bad move by union leadership to call off the pickets before the TA had been agreed on or even been given to members (which it hadn’t at the time I posted this). It’s also fair to critique union leadership if they’re putting forward tactics that are weak. Weak tactics and bad leadership play into the boss’ hands far more than critique.
However, all of that said, now that the details of the TA are out, it does seem to be a really solid deal and WGA members should absolutely be celebrating. This was a hell of a fight and they’ve earned it.
Going from Neil Gaiman’s tumblr (easy guess which show i’m hoping will continue :D) he’s being very cautious and also advocating staying on the picket line for SAG. And he’s not updating twitter yet, hmmm.
On the one hand, do I think they did it? 100% yes. On the other, am I surprised the law is signaling they might do something about it? Also yes.
There have been dozens of credible reports of such violations, of children being maimed and losing limbs even, and now finally there’s a probe? Watching the law take this much time to announce it will begin to investigate what’s been in the news for years almost convinced me it didn’t want to do it at all.
In a stunning, pre-trial win in New York attorney general’s all-out war on the Trump Organization, a Manhattan judge has found that Donald Trump committed fraud for years by inflating his worth to banks and insurers by as much as $3.6 billion a year.
A strongly-worded ruling by state Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron rejected outright Trump’s request for a range of pre-trial victories, calling his arguments “rehashed” and “erroneous.”
Instead, the judge gave a major victory to Attorney General Letitia James, immediately revoking Trump’s license to do business in New York.
“It’s the corporate death penalty,” said Diana Florence, a veteran financial crimes prosecutor for the Manhattan district attorney’s office, now in private practice.
“This ruling essentially dissolves his company,” she said, though she predicted that years of appeals may pass before anything actually happens.
sigh that last quote about it getting tied up in appeals is the shitty part. It’ll hang in limbo and trump will die without ever seeing a consequence. He’ll die thinking (and largely correctly) that he won.
One of the most-striking experiences of my regional metro core’s death throes was needing to pee but my train was delayed. Tried walking across the way to the local train station to use their facilities but the security guy they’d hired to keep the homeless out about fought me to keep me from using the restroom.
If you wonder why your city streets and transit zones smell like piss, it’s because when you lock up your bathrooms to keep the homeless people away, they’ll piss on your street
You think it would be obvious but for some reason. I’m not sure if I have IBS or something, but I am always on the look out for bathrooms and they are so hard to find downtown.
In the town that we spent our summers in, there was a single, well hidden, public restroom on Main Street. This is a town that makes their living on tourism. You would think they wouldn’t want people have quit shopping and leave downtown to pee.
I can tell you with certainty that a knife inside a car with the doors closed and windows rolled up is not immediately deadly or even dangerous to anyone standing outside of the car. Unless of course the doors opened and the knife was brought out of the car, THAT would be deadly to the officer. But that isn’t what happened. And unless I’ve missed something, no one here has said or implied that the man with the knife was “innocent”
Again again again, no one is calling him innocent. Again again again, just because he isn’t innocent doesn’t mean he should have been shot. I mean how the fuck is this so hard to grasp?
The difficult part for you to gasp is that you don’t pull a fucken knife on a cop. Done. Period. You seem stupid, but even you aren’t dumb enough to do that. This guy? He fucked around and found out. Nothing of value was lost that day.
Are you suggesting that because the charges were dropped, he’s not a murderer? Because that’s not how language works. Being legally proven to have done a crime is not the same as having done the crime. You can be convicted while innocent or have charges dropped when actually guilty. It’s perfectly valid to call someone a murder even if the legal system is a failure.
Then stop the fucken car and maybe, just maybe, don’t pull out a fucken knife on an officer. But yeah, let’s pretend this guy was some innocent person. The news media will show pictures of him in his sunday best when he was 10 and hadn’t become a total become a piece of shit yet. His grandma will be on the news crying about “my baby!”. Yawn. We’ve all seen this shit before and the excuses run thin.
“Stop the fucken car” - the car was stopped when the officer shot him (he was shot 7 seven seconds after the officer got out of his patrol car according to the official report).
“Don’t pull out a fucken knife on an officer.” - the man was still inside his car with the doors closed and windows rolled up and as per Pennsylvania law, it is legal to have a knife out and in the open in your vehicle. Assuming the man intended to use the knife against the officer, I beg you to give a scenario in which the man could stab his knife through the car door and injur the officer. If you say something like “well, he could have gotten out of his car and stabbed the cop hur dur dur.” Then just save your breath. We could argue all day about what could have happened. The fact is, it didn’t. The man didn’t get out of his car to attack the officer with the knife, and the officer wasn’t in danger. End of story.
Most people don’t bend over backwards when the government kills a guy for the crime of, having a weapon that couldn’t possibly harm the officer. Unless we’re going to be good with cops shooting everyone with a NRA sticker on their car we probably shouldn’t be good with it here.
If you pull out a deadly weapon on a cop, don’t expect to ever make it home. That’s reality. Trying to act like pulling out a knife is normal behavior and then defending this guy is rather ridiculous.
So if we’re pretending that the cop could be taken at his word and also pretending that while behind a barrier that the cop would be beyond a reasonable doubt threatened by that, that’s still the crime of brandishing a weapon, which isn’t punishable by death in any court. Cops manage to not kill people all the time, it’s not unreasonable to hold them accountable to the already low standards we hold cops to in the US.
It’s really worrisome that you keep repeating the rhetoric of “nothing of value was lost that day.” A human life was lost that day. A mother and father’s son was lost that day. So you just believe that because he committed a crime (which, by the way, his only official crimes were traffic violations. Having a knife in his hands in his own car is not a crime), his life doesn’t have value? So should every criminal in our justice system just be put to death? Are you actually a sociopath? Nvm, I know the answer.
These are MUCH worse than the current incident started as, and ended with the suspects apprehended alive, unlike the current incident. Use of force continuum dictate that if the other party uses a Deadly Force Assault you are permitted to use Lethal Force. However they ALSO carry that if you can use a lower level to successfully walk away without Violence (the adjective proper) being needed, you have had a successful UoF.
Shooting a man IN the car with a knife is not proper use of force. He was not capable of escalating to Deadly Force Assault on the continuum. Officers preparing to draw their service weapon and giving clear verbal commands can diffuse that. “Do not get out of the car” “drop the knife”. They could hold the door closed, or beging backing away to make distance so that they can draw and/or fire if he exited the vehicle against instructions. At this stage Brandishing, threatening behavior, or even terroristic threats are appropriate charges. If someone gets out of the vehicle without a clear verbal command, and lunges at persons with a knife, 2then him being dead now would be a fair use of force.
In the first 2 pages cited, several violent people got the opportunity to surrender, and various law enforcement entities gave them time to do so. Not cited is one that was ELEVEN hours long. This traffic stop started and ended in like what, 30 minutes?
In the last two, the police decided the situation was unsafe and rather than escalating Use of Force, they decided a lower level was appropriate. In sanfran, they followed him with a heli and apprehended him. In Houston they just…left. they decided the stop wasn’t safe. Those people SURELY threatened them and walked away just fine. But the stop for the man can be a mailed ticket, and did not need to escalate to shooting people.
Your replies make heavy, fast assumptions about how “nothing of value was lost”. However it broadly displays your lack of involvement in fields where use of force is used and the policies that surround it
The man in question (who is dead) was neither accused nor convicted of being, as you said, a thief, a rapist, of a murderer. So which of those criteria do you think they are defending because in this instance (as per YOUR OWN WORDS), it’s none of them.
Normal, innocent people are quick to pull it out on a cop. Yeah. Of course. Absolutely. And that doesn’t even factor in his erratic driving and going down a wrong way. Nothing of value was lost that day.
“And that doesn’t even factor in his erratic driving and going the wrong way.” All of the crimes you mentioned here are basic traffic violations in Pennsylvania and would be punishable by a single ticket.
They are, but you’re not close range sitting in your car with a rolled-up window between you and the guy outside. Even if he just cracked the window and tried stabbing through the opening it’d take a couple seconds.
Here’s another idea: Don’t pull a knife out on a cop. Not too complicated. Not particularly difficult to follow. In fact, for sane, innocent people, it only makes sense.
Here’s another idea: Don’t pull a knife out on a cop. shoot people who aren’t putting people’s lives at risk and lie about it. Not too complicated. Not particularly difficult to follow. In fact, for sane, innocent people, it only makes sense.
It is worse than that. They can’t tell if a person is inside a car or outside a car lunging at them. They clearly lied to cover up their incompetence. This person should not be a cop.
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