Noticing a lot of people on Lemmy scoffing at this development, which I suppose is their right. But you know what? I see this as a real win; Trump Org no longer being able to operate in NY is a big fucking deal.
Yes, he’ll likely make up the difference through donations from his rabid base. No, they won’t know about it because the right wing disinfo machine won’t tell them.
So what? It’s a fucking win, nonetheless. It ain’t shooting him and his ill gotten gains into the sun, but it is very well the first of a series of deathblows.
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good, and all that.
It’s the start of accountability (at to least some degree) and it should definitely be celebrated imo. I feel like the people dismissing it are the same people complaining that trump needs to be held accountable. This is a good start!
I get it though. I want to see him barred from running for president for insurrecting and in cuffs and a jumpsuit for his myriad crimes about as much as anyone. However, if that means death by 1000 cuts rather than an immediate removal from society, I’ll take it.
One thing worth noting is it is easier to fire something out of the solar system than it is to fire it into the Sun. In fact firing something into the Sun might actually be impossible with our current technology!
I hope Colie goes free and I hope Cook gets sued for everything he has. I don’t know what you’d sue him for, but find something before he gets someone actually killed.
I think getting shot is punishment enough, but Cook should at least be banned from posting anymore pranks to his YouTube. They should really shut down his YouTube channel if we’re being honest and nothing of value will be lost.
Fuck all that. Attitudes like that are why Americans think they can just blast away. You won’t see my pistol until I’m certain killing you is my very last resort. And if I pull it, it’s because I mean to use it.
Did this idiot think his life was in danger from an annoying man with a cell phone, in the middle of a fucking food court?! No. He used his gun as a “get off of me” tool. He’s damned lucky Cook survived.
EDIT: I seriously hope some of you people do not conceal carry. The comments here are terrifying and completely ignorant of case law, attitudes comprised only of feels.
Agree. Even under the broadest, natural law justification for self defense, this wasn’t self defense. The dude had no basis to conclude his life was in danger.
Lmao. Cops shoot people who just ignore them and get a vacation. This guy has a stranger in his face suddenly who won’t leave him alone and keeps getting closer despite repeated commands not to and you think he has no right?
Cops have no right either, often. They get away with it because they are cops. This guy isn’t getting away with it, nor should he. Just because the system lets off corrupt cops doesn’t mean it let’s everyone off.
I know he doesn’t have a right to self defense here because I passed my first year courses in law school.
Cool, first year law courses. Come back when you’ve spent years doing tactical training. The only more escalatory thing the YouTuber could have done is actually hitting them. At which point it’s too late. We don’t live in Hollywood land where the bad guy stands back to let the hero do whatever they want. Court rulings generally support this unless the state is a duty to retreat state. But Virginia is a stand your ground state. (As are most states these days)
What the YouTuber did is colloquially called Bulldogging and the entire point is to intimidate someone with an intimation of physical threat.
Lol tactical training? This is a legal question not a bootcamp hypothetical.
You don’t get to kill people for walking toward you. Nobody would like living in that world. Not even in a stand your ground state is merely walking toward someone an imminent threat to life. You have been tricked if you believe this.
Bootcamp? And just walking toward someone? I see you learned to properly research stuff already. The article at the top describes the video in vivid detail. He got right up on him with intentionally disorienting noises. Pushed the phone right up towards his head. Ignored physical and verbal commands to stop and just got closer. That’s not someone just calmly walking towards you on a sidewalk.
You’re right, it’s not someone calmy walking toward you, and you have the right to use reasonable force in self defense in this scenario. Deadly force is not reasonable absent a threat of deadly force or serious bodily injury.
The YouTuber had no weapon. Did not in fact intend to harm the victim. Did not touch the victim. Did not say he was going to harm the victim. Did not make any aggressive gestures that he was going to harm him.
What fact are you hanging your hat on to say “ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this dude was clearly out to kill me, I had no choice.”
He walked towards me babbling while his three friends filmed? I would tear you apart in front of the jury if that’s your defense. You would be in tears realizing how fucked you are.
You don’t get to kill someone for walking toward you. You could punch him in the face. Not shoot him in the chest, though.
You don’t think that’s a threat of serious bodily injury? It’s literally the original non verbal threat. If you wait for someone to verbally tell you they’re going to hurt you then you’re going to have a really bad time.
I feared for my life. The thing about a beating is it can just be a beating or they can kill you. You don’t know. And now you’re saying we should wait to see if they want to deliver a coup de grace blow? There isn’t a legal or moral standard anywhere in the world that requires waiting that long to defend yourself. You’re arguing from absurdity now.
Someone pointing a cellphone in your face, even acting belligerently doesn't meet the standard of fearing for your life.
People that scared of the world shouldn't own guns.
Youtuber was definitely as asshole and he definitely had something coming to him but you can't just shoot someone who's annoying you and putting a camera in your face.
I see in another comment you deride first year law classes. Mind if I ask what year you're in?
I’m in the year that learned to look at case law and published work by actual lawyers who’ve passed the bar. I’m going to take their word and the word of my physical experience over a student’s.
And you also would have people wait until they actually get hit. This idea that it’s okay to act in every way like you’re attacking someone but call it a joke when they react as if you’re attacking them is idiotic.
Some of these commenters must live in very pristine areas with little to no crime.
Where I live (not even really a bad area compared to many) that behaviour is almost always, at best, the start of a mugging. Other times, the victim ends up dead. There’s no way to know that someone who is unhinged and in your face is just playing a prank. Playing optimism with the wrong group of people might very well be game over.
Do I LOVE that he was shot? Not at all. I definitely understand the driver’s fear though, especially if he has lived or worked in rough areas. Especially in a country where many people have guns. I wouldn’t want to wait and see, either.
Seems these people are forgetting this was in a, presumably crowded, food court, and not a dark alley. Shooter is on very thin legal ice, very thin.
Also, seems some of these folks don’t have experience with the garden variety bully. This wasn’t some madman running up on the shooter, this was a bigger guy clearly trying to get a reaction.
If the aggressor had spoken any “fighting words”, and yes that’s a legal term, I might well have shot him. That does not seem to have been the case.
The aggressor was a loud-mouthed bully in a very public place. I’ve dealt with these assholes since elementary school in the 70s. They’re cowards, one and all. Perhaps such behavior is more threatening to younger folks? I gather kids don’t get their ass beat on the regular in school any longer? In any case, I think I would have instantly known what I was looking at.
Also, seems the bully didn’t speak any “fighting words”, and that may be key. OTOH, Virginia holds no duty to retreat. Feels like thin legal ice for the shooter.
And no, I’m not giving him the chance to hit me. I’m hyper aware of my ability to draw. If I felt that option was about to be taken from me? Yeah, that almost certainly would have crossed the line.
He could very well think that. One friend of mine gets a fraid for his saftey if protest is in the area. I have scared the shit out of people by just walking near them.
Now in the era of mass shooting would i be afraid that some ahole came up to like would i think this is a prelude to getting shot. I might honestly think that
Profit crushing regulation is the key to a functional society. No slavery, no dumping toxic waste, workers’ protections… all choices we’ve agreed are worth more than money.
We can agree that you aren’t allowed to replace someone’s livelihood with AI. (My hope is this that we solve the livelihood problem and keep the AI, but that’s not what this is about)
You’re thinking with your heart, which isn’t going to work for the world. Companies can save money with it so it’s inevitable. We need to learn how to make it less damaging. There’s no sense spinning our Wheels trying to stop it from happening because we can’t.
You ask me, it’s like the great quarantine to try and slow down covid
The idealists were hoping to stamp it out entirely but the reality was that covid was everywhere, and would inevitably become part of life. Quarantining served to make sure hospitals weren’t overwhelmed (or rather, weren’t MORE overwhelmed) until a vaccine could be made to try and get things under control
In the same vein, it makes sense to me to try and stifle AI stuff hopefully long enough to push for UBI and other social safety nets, so that when the lid comes completely off pandora’s box, the damage to people’s lives is mitigated and the benefits from the tech can be enjoyed in better conscience
Did you not read my comment? Companies could make way more money without regulation; it’s a huge (shortsighted) right-wing talking point. But we can and have regulated them to stop abuses for profit. To say there’s nothing we can do about the use of AI is like opposing minimum wage at its inception because companies are going to limit their expenses in any way they can and there’s nothing we can do to stop them.
Why do creative professions need to be automated? Isn’t the point of art and entertainment human expression? Automating creative jobs is missing the point of creativity entirely. Why don’t we automate the CEOs and board members who thought this was a good idea? I trust a computer to run a business more than I trust it to make quality artwork
Art is rarely done for art’s sake alone. It can claim supremacy of a person or organization, be used to convince others of an idea, or become a commodity to be sold. Most culturally significant American movies are made with a profit motive in mind.
I never said it was necessarily art for arts sake, simply that they’re creative endeavors that should be done by humans. It’s a human endeavor that loses it’s meaning if the creative aspects are automated. And I would argue that’s something that should be valued and protected. Be it avengers 900 or high concept indie art house stuff that’s only going to be seen by 5 people.
We live in a capitalist system so I feel it’s a bit unfair to say that significant films were made with a profit motive in mind. It’s the system we live in and many things are made with profit in mind. It’s how our society is structured. I’m sure if you asked many of the creative staff on film sets if they’d rather be pursuing their passions in a more “pure” form than doing emoji movie 2 or some other profit driven shitfest they would all say yes. Instead of conceding to capital and putting more money in the pockets of people who have no positive influence on the production of movies, why don’t we ask why we’re even considering letting computers do creative and artistic work while the rest of us toil in soul sicking jobs that would be better suited to machines?
I like how you think every artist is Leonardo DiCaprio in Titanic, and not some coke head deuchebag helping the 1% launder money willingly as long as they get thier cut.
Some people suck. I think Leonardo DiCaprio is a bit of a piece of shit but that doesn’t change the fact that acting, writing, animation, sfx, etc. is a human creative endeavors. It doesn’t matter if some of them are coked out douchebags only in it for the money. They’re outnumbered by plenty of others that are in it for the craft and artistry and work in spite of shitty movies, under shitty people and in shitty environments for the chance to pursue their passions. The money hungry dipshits would do something else if they couldn’t make their money in film. The same can’t be said for the majority of people doing the actual work.
I work in the medical field and there’s a very similar parallel. I work in medicine because I want to help people, not because I’m well paid. I assure you, I’m not well paid. There are plenty of people in medicine that are though. Sone people get into it for the money. Usually, they don’t. The shitty ones move on when the money dries up and the people interested in doing what little bit of good we can do stick around because we don’t want to be anywhere else, doing anything else. We shouldn’t sell out the bulk of people in a creative field because some of them aren’t interested in the creativity.
AI automation would largely effect the peons working on a pittance and not the “coke head douchebags helping the 1% launder money”. You’re all edge and no point
If I’m all Edge and no point I guess that makes me very well rounded. I can only pray all of my edges are equidistant to my area centroid 🙏 I don’t care for the notion of being parabolic or elliptical in nature for sure.
If that isn’t some “I’m rubber you’re glue” level comeback I don’t know what is lol. What was your point? Surely your comment about some actors being assholes was more than contrarian garbage and you were working up to something, right?
Frankly it was ridiculous how low our interest rates were for how long, a correction was absolutely needed. What’s insane is that the current rates haven’t had near the impact the fed probably expected or hoped for. Which is crazy because everyone I know is feeling the effects.
But this is also literally the first time in my life that I’ve seen an interest rate above 1% on my bank savings, so that’s kinda neat.
Ya, the whole article read as: Investors are addicted to cheap money.
Of course banks and investors want lower interest rates, that’s how they make money. When rates are higher, fewer people take on debt, which means less money for the banks. And investors have higher borrowing costs, so they make less money. Sadly, this also sucks for the average person, as our credit is also more expensive. However, we can take a look over at Turkiye for the counter-factual plan. Erdogan was nice enough to run an economic experiment for the world on what happens when you cut interests rates during inflation. The result of that experiment has been rather insane inflation… But hey, it got him re-elected. So, that was nice (for him).
Ultimately, higher interest rates are kinda needed and probably here for a while.
Seriously, having a defected US soldier in North Korea is a huge PR and propaganda win, he must've been the dumbest pain in the ass to be not worth keeping.
There have been a few other US defectors to the DPRK, and iirc they weren’t treated terribly. Though they did feel quite isolated culturally, I suppose you must anticipate that before you do something like that.
He was escaping assault charges and didn’t “defect” for ideological reasons. Norks prolly think they will score more diplomatic points by handing him over back to the US.
I think their hands are kind of tied. He’s not a valuable asset, he is a fuckup. He doesn’t hold the same value as a random citizen tourist that didn’t have the intention of defecting. He’s not in a position to provide valuable intel. They either kick him out or treat him like a god and let him go home to tell everyone how awesome North Korea is. Punishing him only hurts their image.
I don't think it would hurt their image at all. They would be well within their rights to imprison him for the crossing. The US would do the same. I think they more want to exemplify US soldiers as incompetent fuckups by using him as an example.
There’s a Lions led by Donkey’s Podcast episode about cutting a tree in North Korea, and it ended in North Koreans taking turns chopping into pieces an US Officers body for hours. I don’t think they care much about image.
There was also that NK guy who used sneak a kick in the balls to SK and US soldiers, that guy was famous. That episode was kind of hillarious.
Well of course they do, the electoral college was made specifically so that states with the most population aren’t the ones solely determining the outcome. If you got rid of the EC, the elections would come down to California, Florida, New York, and Texas.
Which ironically, given how Florida and Texas lean, would not “kill the Republican party” as some are claiming here.
The last republican to win the popular vote was Bush in 04. It would force them to actually care about what the people need instead of just threatening everyone else
You say that it would help Republicans, but the last two times the electoral college went against the popular vote they gave the presidency to Republicans.
Five presidents have been elected despite losing the popular vote. Four of those were Republicans: Hayes, Harrison, Bush, Trump. John Quincy Adams was the first, just as the Republican party came into existence, although he wasn’t a member. He joined it later.
I’m not saying it would either help them or hurt them. I think many people totally ignore that fact that if the election rules and law were changed in the United States, then campaign strategies would change too. Both the Democratic and Republican parties have enough resources and power to able to adapt.
It's easy to make a low-effort joke-comment like this, and obviously Fortune 500 CEOs and billionaires aren't doing any good for the world, but this was a young woman who was pursuing her passion to try to make the world a better place.
The entire company is less than 50 people, and they seem to be trying to do good things.
Like that “American” girl that joined ISIS and tried to come back but then the courts were like… actually we don’t think you’re an American citizen. Have fun in Syria!
I always wondered about the sanity of girls who joined ISIS. Do they realize all that they are giving up? And what exactly they are selling themselves into?
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