In the last state that tried this, it failed. From my understanding, he must first be found guilty of having committed a crime which disqualifies him. No matter how obviously guilty he is, this seems like a necessary first step, although IANAL.
The amendment was instituted in the wake of the Civil War, and was used several times against members of the Confederacy who never had a trial or conviction.
The idea is that infinite growth is unsustainable. We are feeling the initial effects of it today. Individuals who are scared of it today are simply not having children. So they are starting with themselves.
As with other grand scale problems facing humanity; I think we will simply chug along until it blows up in our faces.
We’re not even close to the point at which population growth becomes unsustainable. We’re in the position we’re in because we failed to invest in infrastructure.
And which social or ethnic group in particular do you suggest should be the ones to be sacrificed exactly? The answer to eugenics is not more eugenics.
You clearly stated it - the ones you think need encouragement to use contraception, and lets not pretend you mean rich people or even just the "middle class" in wealthy countries who are having fewer and fewer children to the point where they fear population collapse.
It's also interesting that you've responded here, but not to the comment with the links proving you wrong.
Why not rich people? I meant all people. If rich people don’t understand condoms, they should. And use them. I have no idea why you think I would say otherwise.
No, you didn't, no one who brings up overpopulation ever does, it's a dog whistle (so even if we pretend you didn't mean to, you're advocating the same bullshit as those who do mean it).
But hey, double down away if it makes you happy, just know that your choice to die on this hill instead of putting your hand up to admit you had a shitty uninformed take doesn't do you any favours.. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
He’s right, and saying there’s too many people on the planet to live sustainably isn’t racist or a dog whistle. Suggesting that there’s too many of some specific race or class of people would absolutely be racist (or classist or some other -ist), but nobody should get a pass. Everyone helped get us into this situation and everyone should be working to solve it. While it is true that using our current factory farming methods we can produce enough food today that’s absolutely not going to be the case forever and it’s also forcing our hand with regards to using incredibly environmentally damaging and unsustainable farming methods. We have to use factory farms because we literally couldn’t produce enough food otherwise. Everybody should be encouraged to limit the number of children they have. And before you start, I practice what I preach, I have no children.
Prime example one of the problem is Muskrat and his what, nearly a dozen kids? That should be completely unacceptable. There’s absolutely no reason why anyone should have more than 2 kids at worst, ideally 1 or no kids. At least until global population levels have dropped to a point where we can meet our food needs using smaller farms that don’t require truck loads of fertilizer and antibiotics and pack so many animals into such a tiny space that they can barely move.
You’re talking about this as if there’s no overriding socioeconomic context that carries forth implications. Any time birthing restrictions have been tried, rich and privileged groups always get exemptions.
People should be encouraged to take advantage of contraception because they should have the right to plan their families- not because we’ve decided we want to look down on people who breed.
You put a lot of words into someone’s mouth and then had an argument with yourself. That was funny but I doubt that was your intent. Maybe try not constructing so many straw men?
How do you encourage marginalized people who have been historically discouraged from breeding due to eugenics reasons to voluntarily stop breeding because the people in power just lowkey want them to?
The world has almost 8 billion people. Maybe we could do with a few less.
Which is vague. And vagueness is often used to give plausible deniability when eugenicists are on the march. So cool on you for giving such grace to an internet stranger, but when I read things like this, it always includes what is between the lines.
For reasons I don’t understand, people seem to be incapable of separating any discussion of overpopulation from racism and eugenics. I think it’s at the point where it’s disingenuous, willful, or at the very least a massive blind spot in people talking about the problem. You should understand that bad people can embrace overpopulation with bad conclusions, and that should not taint reality. Hitler was an animal lover - does that mean it’s wrong to love animals? That’s the level of flawed argument we’re dealing with here.
For reasons I don’t understand, people seem to be incapable of separating any discussion of overpopulation from racism and eugenics.
It's because they're fucking inseparable, you not understanding why or how (never mind being as wilfully ignorant as you are since you clearly didn't read word in the links I posted) doesn't change that
Let me copy pasta myself for the sake of anyone who actually wants to learn more before I leave this dumpster fire:
In reality overpopulation is a myth and rather population decline is a real concern in many countries.
Now of course we can talk about who this concerns and why (under the current system? It concerns those who need workers to exploit, white supremacists looking to "overturn" the "great replacement", in some cases both, and it also concerns the aging population that will end up with very little support, something which wouldn't be as big an issue if we had stronger communities, but alienation and all that jazz, as well as the fewer workers who will remain to keep the economy going for minimal pay as they get bossed around by AI, because capitalism), and also about who pushes the overpopulationmyth and why, but the bottom line is - the population isn't and never has been the problem (we already produce enough food to sustain everyone alive today and then some), it is capitalism and it's dependence on creating infinite growth in a finite world, at the expense of everyone and everything on the planet (themselves included except for the handful who will end up in orbit or whatever. And then die) that is the problem, and what we need to get rid of if we want to stop this dystopian spiral.
Well that was a totally reasonable response from someone who is totally capable of considering the merits of an argument without relying on bad articles trying to drum up weak support for the author’s preordained conclusion with circular reasoning. Nothing to see here folks. This guy has it all figured out and we should totally worship his correctness without debate.
IMO the only myth is the belief that it’s a myth. The evidence is overwhelming.
If you look at all the crimes the 18 defendants are charged with, I’d say that 150 is actually pretty freaking economical! If math is right, that’s like 4.92 indictments per witness.
It’s seldom covered in any decent capacity by most work or private health insurance unless you target it directly and lose out on other options.
Most offices are corner cutting so hard that the following week, you might have a new therapist/counselor that has no frame of reference beyond the former’s patient folder on you.
A lot of therapy is just a gotcha for Christian and religious bullshit.
Therapy and mental health is often seen as a sign of weakness for men, who often times never open up or seek help to begin with due to the stigma.
This isn’t a huge conundrum. It’s pretty easy to understand.
That and therapy is treating the symptoms but not the underlying cause. Therapy can help you heal, but when every week brings a new trauma you’re just treading water.
That and therapy is treating the symptoms but not the underlying cause.
As a therapist, I have to object and say that’s not good therapy. Even when the underlying cause is something external to yourself that you do not have control over, a competent therapist should be working with you on how you can minimize contact, manage contact better, or completely escape said external stressor. A complete fix may not be possible, but there’s usually room for improvement.
Regardless, it’s incorrect to say therapy treats symptoms, but not underlying cases. Underlying causes are focused on all the time.
Can you help me escape politicians who are taking away the ability for women to have safe abortions, attempt to overthrow the government, and their voters who brag about it by flying fascist flags on their cars? What about massive inflation without a similar rise in income that is needed just to survive?
Thanks in advance.
Yes this is snarky, but the stressors that most people are talking about in this thread are completely out of their control AND things they can't just avoid.
Yeah, with the state of things right now, I’m not sure anxiety is so much a bug but a feature. The vast majority of the population is being exploited or ignored while a small group of people plunder the world’s resources and talents and continue to do so despite it obviously threatening the balance that life on this planet currently depends on. And different factions of those assholes use some of the population to try to take or protect what they have from others and have enough weaponry to devastate the entire population.
Even if it can be consciously ignored, the subconscious will figure it out and try to warn us and I think that denial is one of the big causes of mental health issues.
Can you help me escape politicians who are taking away the ability for women to have safe abortions, attempt to overthrow the government, and their voters who brag about it by flying fascist flags on their cars? What about massive inflation without a similar rise in income that is needed just to survive?
Nope, that's going to take a lot of work to do anything about. What (imo) your therapist should be helping you do is develop strategies that let you deal with your anxieties. If therapy was only for dealing with things after the fact I don't think I would be doing it because I agree with you, we can't escape all the awful shit in the world but what we can do is make it not so debilitating that you can't do anything.
The original point was that therapy doesn't address the underlying problem. It led to the post above:
If therapy was only for dealing with things after the fact I don't think I would be doing it because I agree with you, we can't escape all the awful shit in the world but what we can do is make it not so debilitating that you can't do anything.
Which doesn't address the underlying issues or solve anything when it comes to actual problems that directly impact people. It is also worded as if the therapy helps by avoiding the awful shit so someone can do something. Which probably means not letting stress about one thing keep you from doing something else you can control, but in the context of the comment it was replying to could be read as doing something about the examples.
Therapy is great for addressing personal issues such as anxiety and trauma that are keeping someone from successfully acting on things they do have control over. But when it comes to things people can't control it is just a coping mechanism that doesn't solve the underlying problems that someone is reasonably responding to with frustration and helplessness. Yet it keeps being suggested as a solution.
Something that has always helped me with things like this (I’m trans in the uk, and have various other things around decentralised networks and such, also the economy and like 5000 other things, personal situations, etc.) is doing concrete steps towards my socio-techno-politico-economic goals and personal stuff.
Things like organising with other people (not just for protests/riots, but also things like underground services, discreet information leaflets, and just general community), trying to develop new tech, etc. ^.^
Decent therapy can help at least with dealing with some of the effects of this stuff, and manage interpersonal causes of mental health issues, in theory, if you can access it - though there are many issues imo with certain types of therapy that promote accepting shitty sociopolitical situations and personal situations, though this seems to be more of a philosophy thing than really therapy related specifically.
Techniques for managing the effects of poor sociopolitical situations - and working with someone to come up with more strategies to deal with these effects as well as avoid more common self-destructive thought patterns - might help you act more towards fighting the root causes even if it can’t solve them itself ^.^
For people in these situations, if you want someone else to help come up with personal coping strategies and to practise identifying more destructive thought patterns and manage emotional states, my opinion is that this is where a good therapist may be helpful if you can access one and want one.
For solving the more underlying issues? They probably can’t help directly, but they may help you gain more ability/mental bandwidth to deal with them either personally or via organising and political strategy. However this is all very conditional on therapist quality and some therapists may be actively harmful.
At least, this is my view. I have a pretty complex set of thoughts about therapy and mental health systems - and am familiar with the ways they can be used as weapons against individuals and larger groups as a trans and autistic person, as well as how they can be helpful - but hopefully the stuff about acting to do political things is useful to someone.
Actually doing something rather than just watching things get worse is helpful for me personally at least ^.^
If I was your therapist, while I couldn’t change the world for you, I could certainly help you change how you’re thinking about all of this political shit to reduce your stress and distress. Most of us have political misgivings, but only some of us have those misgivings create serious problems in our lives. I’m obviously sympathetic to—for example—women who can’t get abortions in their state, but therapy is about coping with reality, not changing reality in ways that correspond to wishful thinking.
I think the issue being remarked on is while yes therapy helps one better manage and attempt to do everything within an individual’s power to react to something (include minimizing contact) there are enough stressors beyond people’s individual locus of control that no matter how personally resilient one becomes misery is still a natural outcome. Therapy attempts to address underlying causes… But ultimately it still places the burden of fortitude on the person. If the situation merits more fortitude than person is capable of even at their best then the solution lies beyond that individual’s training to respond to it and must be addressed at the source. Hence the phrase “Treats symptoms, not the cause” is catch-phrasy and not by all means technically correct, but encapsulates this frustration at having to constantly be the one expected to exert constant personal effort to be okay while the source problems, which are often cultural/social in nature, are treated as immovable constants and continue being a source of inhumane conditions.
Ok but therapy doesn’t have to be a “crisis of the week” situation. A person and their therapist should be working together toward a set of goals that aim to address their needs (e.g. getting enough self-esteem, confidence, new perspectives, etc. to treat the cause (e.g. quit abusive job, leave a partner, make boundaries with crazy family, etc…). Good therapists identify when therapy is drifting outside of effective modalities and guide the sessions back to the overall goals.
Signed, a person who is in “crisis of the week” therapy but is also terrible at confrontation and is working toward bringing it up.
We must do everything in our power to make sure that Republicans never hold office ever again. It’s for the good of the planet (and American society as a whole).
Don’t forget to vote in 2024! And not just the general election!
It really depends on the type and field of economics you’re looking at. Macro and micro are very very different fields. There are also a lot of different ways to present these facts. In general gdp means very little for normal people, and something like the Gini coefficient at least gets a little closer to a metric that actually represents the economic health of a country.
This is a brilliant way to win the next generation! I swear, the GOP is being directed by Month Python’s Flying Circus. It’s like the ministry of silly walks.
They’re probably not shooting for the next generation, they know that’s lost. They’re shooting for the ones after, when they’ve stripped the education system dry and can more easily exploit the naivety while their own kids take over. It’s generational planning.
Americans are so pathetic. Some stupid assholes walk around a bit in a government building and you call it an “iNsuRection.” If you wanna see an insurrection go to Niger, Somalia, Bolivia, etc.
You’re pathetic, because you participate in online horse-meat dietary scams. Haha!
January 6th was a literal insurrection, by the definition of the word, and many of the insurrectionists have been convicted of seditious conspiracy and sentenced to long prison sentences. And prison is what they deserved, at least if not worse.
lol you really believe that people should have been executed over this. it was a directionless protest, no lever of power was ever in danger of being pulled by the happless MAGA idiots.
I don’t give a shit what they were sentenced for. Unlike you I don’t think something is true just cause the government said so.
There was no insurrection. Cope, seethe, but in 20 years everyone will think you were hysterical and funny.
honestly, It might be prudent to take the police force to a larger, broader agency from a hiring standpoint.
I mean, when a cop fucks up and gets fired, they just go to a near by agency and apply there. If there was one agency in the state, even if that agency had a few hundred precincts, then that couldn’t happen nearly as easily.
It would make more sense to have a licensing body or multiple that are all connected, use the same processes and can strip a license.
Doctors, nurses, lawyers, teachers all over the US already have licensing requirements, ongoing training requirements etc.
Edit to add: I live in Minnesota and Philando Castile was shot and killed by a Saint Anthony police officer in Falcon Heights. Falcon Heights used neighboring Saint Anthony’s department for their city as well. Outsourcing to another agency/department doesn’t address root cause of policing issues.
I also like the idea of liability insurance. Maybe make the agency pay for it. but it’s managed by a 3rd party. If they become a liability, the insurance would drop them like a sack of smashed asshole, because that costs them money.
It'd probably be a state level entity that offers endorsements to other states. That's how it is for nurses, anyway. In other news, nurses have more legal hoops to jump through than cops. Someone explain that.
Sometimes even this isn’t enough though. Minnesota requires peace officers to be licensed and to maintain that license with ongoing continuing education. Without steps to strip that license based on conduct then it is essentially toothless.
The solution to bad cops getting hired elsewhere is truly simple, and as American as apple pie.
Make them carry insurance.
Bad cops with strikes on their record have to pay higher and higher and eventually cost prohibitively higher rates for them to hold the title/badge/weapons.
Also, profit. Off of your tax dollars. As American as apple pie.
And to require the police to live in the areas that they police again. They shouldn't be able to ruin a community just to clock out and go home 3 towns over.
I know it is an edge case but what would you do about areas that have police but effectively no residents? Teterboro NJ, City of Industry California, etc.
IMO, the sketchiest part is that the department knew about the relationship, let him continue using the fake identity for years after leaving the force, and pressured the family to keep quiet after learning the truth.
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