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PatFussy , in Elon May Have a Huge Issue Because Microsoft Owns the “X” Trademark

How does both meta and microsoft own the rights to “X”

VexCatalyst ,

I was just about to ask that myself.

monsterpiece42 ,

Probably in different industries. I saw the MS patent is for game related stuff. I would assume metas is for social media stuff, or some other field they’re involved in.

lolcatnip ,

Trademark, not patent. I wouldn’t normally correct you but there seems to be a whole lot of misunderstanding in this thread about the categories of intellectual property.

BiNonBi ,
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Trademarks are very narrow. From my quick search Microsoft has ‘X’ marks in relation to Excel and Xbox.

Meta’s trademarks actually has the class, ‘Online social networking services,’ that will overlap with Twitter’s new name.

cultsuperstar Bot ,

From what I understand, MS owns it in regards gaming, and Meta owns it in regards to social media.

damnYouSun , in Texas charges prisoners 50% more for water as heat wave continues

Is Texas now competing to be more or diseutopian than North Korea because it’s certainly seems like that appears to be the goal.

lolcatnip ,

Nah, just with Florida.

einlander , in Twitter removed half its HQ sign — then the police arrived

They haven’t paid rent, why would the building owner even let them modify anything on the building?

fubo , in Analysis | Twitter rival Mastodon rife with child-abuse material, study finds

…stanford.edu/…/20230724-fediverse-csam-report.pd…

The report is here. There are some good points, and it’s definitely not an obvious smear-job, but it’s definitely not perfect. And it is likely to be misused by less-responsible authors who are interested in smearing Mastodon or other services not operated by major tech companies.

gAlienLifeform , (edited )
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Those less responsible authors should be shown this study from the same organization last month showing similar problems on Twitter

In the course of the investigation, researchers found that despite the availability of image hashes to identify and remove known CSAM, Twitter experienced an apparent regression in its mitigation of the problem. Using PhotoDNA, a common detection system for identified instances of known CSAM, matches were identified on public profiles, bypassing safeguards that should have been in place to prevent the spread of such content. This gap was disclosed to Twitter’s Trust & Safety team which responded to address the issue. However, the failure highlights the need for platforms to prioritize user safety and the importance of collaborative research efforts to mitigate and proactively counter online child abuse and exploitation.

That being said, people who code for the Fediverse should see this report and pay particular attention to things like

Current tools for addressing child sexual exploitation and abuse online—such as PhotoDNA and mechanisms for detecting abusive accounts or recidivism—were developed for centrally managed services and must be adapted for the unique architecture of the Fediverse and similar decentralized social media projects.

I honestly don’t know crap about coding, but this seems like a very solvable problem and something I’d very much like for the people who do to engage with. I would absolutely donate some money to support a project like this.

e; I guess what I meant to say is I would absolutely donate some money to purchase API keys from Microsoft

fmstrat ,

Or… license PhotoDNA of course!

gAlienLifeform ,
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Oh, surely they don’t charge for a tool to stop child abus-

“PhotoDNA Cloud Service is free for qualified customers”

Wow, say what you will about capitalism, but it really is an engine for innovation and coming up with new ways to make me lose faith in humanity

LordOfTheChia ,

There might be other options:

www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?archives/931-…

I was informed that, in the last few years, NCMEC has added additional solutions beyond PhotoDNA. This includes Google’s CSAI and Facebook’s open-source video/image matching tools.

gAlienLifeform ,
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That’s good, but it is still just mind blowing to me that we let a bunch of private for profit companies take the lead on this. This is the sort of thing the FBI ought to be all over developing and maintaining and handing out to everyone if they weren’t a bunch of stupid assholes busy harassing environmentalists and police brutality protesters.

fmstrat ,

After a bit of reading, another option may simply be to include a “report” button that generates a hash of the image and federates the list. That being said, their may be a similarity algorithm under the hood of PhotoDNA that works better. Hard to say since it’s all proprietary and pay-for-membership. Prices aren’t even listed publicly unless you use a cloud API.

gAlienLifeform ,
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Yeah, I’m just discovering that it’s proprietary

In 2009, Microsoft partnered with Dartmouth College to develop PhotoDNA,

Good to know my tax dollars went to helping Microsoft develop another product! /s

MeowdyPardner ,
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I actually just saw that Dansup is working on adding optional opt-in support for PhotoDNA in pixelfed if an instance admin adds a PhotoDNA API key, I wonder if that was spurred on by this report. Hopefully Mastodon also looks into adding support.

gAlienLifeform ,
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Nice, yeah hopefully this feature or something that accomplishes the same spreads* throughout the Fediverse quickly

*Like, it would be really cool if there was a way to fight child porn that didn’t involve relying on a for profit company, but chipping away at our screwed up economic system is a lower priority than stopping child abuse

Gnubyte OP ,

I appreciate you doing a level headed job of explaining this and dropping a link. Cheers!

Gnubyte OP , in Analysis | Twitter rival Mastodon rife with child-abuse material, study finds

Commenting my $0.02 How fucking bullshit is this. I looked into the report and it’s a report from Stanford. It’s the same loli crap you see on 4chan and even twitter sometimes.

OrangeCorvus ,
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Who made the study? It’s unknown? Let’s put an X next to the unknown :)

Whirlybird ,

Who made the study? It’s right there in the article and associated links. David Thiel is one of the 2 authors. He works at Stanford and before that worked at Facebook. He’s a security and safety guy. He seems to know what he’s talking about going by his publications and history.

sadreality ,

Who funded him?

Whirlybird ,

Definitely “Big Centralised”.

OrangeCorvus ,
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It was a joke

Gnubyte OP ,

See Fubos comment here, they did a great job: lemdit.com/comment/665534

in short though Stanford did. Where Stanford is a silicon valley school lol.

themeatbridge ,

It’s not bullshit that the CSAM content is there. It’s bullshit to imply that this is a unique problem for Mastodon. Every social media platform is rife with child-abuse material.

partial_accumen , in DeSantis doubles down on claim that some Blacks benefited from slavery

If the GOP candidate is so enthusiastic to extol the benefits of being a slave, why has he not volunteered himself into slavery so that, he too, could gain these benefits he’s claiming enslaved people received?

dojan , in This is not a forecast for 50 years time, it’s happening today.
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  • ShakyPerception ,

    But… but without those heroic political figures, how will mega-corporations be allowed to continue maximizing profits.

    This type of shortsighted ignorance is what causes drops economic growth and allows communism to win.

    …. I’m being told that it’s now trans people, not communists that are the real threat.

    …. No, no wait it’s still communists. So both I guess?

    /s

    gAlienLifeform ,
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    Love the energy, but before posting anything on the internet you should imagine a prosecutor asking you to read it to a jury

    whoisearth ,
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    I’m stealing this. I’m seriously worried for the world. We are entering a new age of the diggers and levellers and that ended with the beheading of the king and no real change.

    We have a segment of the population that’s exceedingly frothing at the mouth and in some cases for very valid reasons but at the same time they have no plan and that’s scary. They want to scorch the earth instead of fix it.

    gAlienLifeform ,
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    I’m stealing this.

    Please do!

    I’m seriously worried for the world.

    Same :(

    We are entering a new age of the diggers and levellers and that ended with the beheading of the king and no real change.

    First of all, great reference, the English civil war is a fascinating period of history.

    But second of all, it wasn’t the diggers who chopped off Charles’ head, they basically never had any real influence on anyone. It was the nobility in parliament that did that (and honestly, Charles did it to himself by being such a stubborn pain in the ass for the nobility), and they were the same ones who didn’t have a plan/couldn’t really imagine a world without a king, which is why they basically forced Cromwell to be king in all but name and then crowned Charles’ son when Cromwell died.

    They want to scorch the earth instead of fix it.

    I can imagine a lot of scenarios where a bit of scorching is a necessary first step in fixing (but I can also imagine a lot of scenarios where scorching goes off the rails and/or starts cycles of vengeance, so, yeah, we’re seriously worried for the world and for good reason).

    whoisearth ,
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    Another amateur history buff?!

    I wasn’t implying the diggers chopped off Charles’ head. I was more hinting at he political turmoil at the time was very similar to what we see now and it scares me. Those who don’t pay attention to history are doomed to repeat it and we are collectively horrible at teaching people history!

    gAlienLifeform , (edited )
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    Fair enough, the emergence of groups like them is definitely a symptom of a stressed social system, it’s just I don’t think they’re often the actual cause of the stress, and sometimes listening to those radical groups is the only way to resolve the actual stress (e.g. abolitionists in the United States were right and we just needed to completely abolish slavery for moral and practical reasons but most everyone thought they were crazy until like 1863). I don’t think that really applies to the diggers (the English civil war was a bunch of rich people fighting for power by throwing mountains of poor people at each other who were never organized enough to have their own faction in that fight), but it might apply to our present-day situation (e.g. people like Pia Klemp make a lot of sense to me).

    On a related note, if you’re into the history of political upheavals, I highly recommend this podcast called Revolutions^1^ that actually did a season on the English Civil war and is just absolutely fantastic throughout it’s whole ridiculously long run.

    ^1^ best links for finding it depends on if you’re on a desktop, iOS, or Android device,

    Jeanschyso ,

    Sheeeesh, reading y’all’s conversation was more enticing than any history class I ever attended.

    VentraSqwal ,

    I would say the richest and most evil of us dooming our planet to a heated, hell hole of an apocalypse kind of deserves some emotional reaction. The lack of one by most of the population is probably why we won’t see change until it’s too late.

    masterofn001 ,

    It already is too late.

    The only thing we have left is to make sure the ones whi caused this suffer as immeasurably possible as the damage they’ve done. To make sure they do not enjoy one second of the remainder of their days.

    This includes any and all o&g execs. Every last shareholder. Every politician who has done nothing or invited this. Every one of them.

    Heads on sticks.

    masterofn001 ,

    Yes, judge, i said " we should just shoot the people who are actively killing us."

    What’s the problem here? It’s stand your ground / self defense at its finest.

    jackoneill ,

    100% tax on anything past 100 million or 100% of their head gets lopped off. That’s still an absurd amount of money for you and your family. Put the rest into growing your businesses and thus the economy, or give it to Uncle Sam for some socialized healthcare and UBI instead.

    PickTheStick ,

    Put the rest into growing your businesses

    That’s what they currently do. All of them. That’s the whole point in them owning/investing in a business. That’s how they sidestep so many taxes. Aside from a few (relatively) toys and houses, do you really think Musk or Bezos keep billions on hand in liquid form or physically owned objects?

    I have a friend with parents that owned their own business that wasn’t really all that large. It had a net profit of maybe $450,000 per year. They paid themselves enough to do whatever they wanted to that year, and the company “reinvests” the rest. It’s all a shell game to avoid taxes. They did it by buying real estate for the company to ‘eventually’ grow on, but just put five cows on and got themselves agricultural exemptions on taxes, then sold the land later. Repeat x100. That money from the sale could be shuffled into other ‘company’ assets. That’s super small time. They didn’t have fancy lawyers or investing agents to help.

    Big, rich, asshole business does it by buying back stock, diversifying (do you really think the big contractor company wants to own a grocery store chain, or a bank wants to own restaurants?) into assets that can just be sold later to recoup the money, etc.

    Owning a business is all about tax avoidance. An individual doesn’t have many ways to pump up deductions on taxes, but businesses have so many different avenues that even the IRS throws up their hands at some point. Requiring an individual to “put the rest into” their business won’t change anything, and god knows the economy improving is only going to help a small portion of society. That portion isn’t the portion that needs help.

    Also, truthfully, I’d lower your number to $10,000,000. It’s enough to live on even in the ritziest of areas, in the fanciest of houses that aren’t mansions, and is still more per year than the highest of the middle-class will earn in their lives.

    Saneless ,

    Let’s just all agree as humans to never convict someone who’s on trial for that

    mindbleach ,

    Between literal apocalyptic scenarios and open fascism, it’s hard not to picture the trolley problem. But we’re forced to pretend everyone’s acting in good faith. Like if we just try harder, words will work, all of a sudden.

    At some point we’re telling people not to “escalate” to violence against people shoving them onto the train. The shovers aren’t the ones killing them… directly. They’re just public servants, doing their job! So relax, get along, kumbayah, and get in the fuckin’ train.

    For some queer Americans that’s not an exaggerated comparison. The actual Nazis also targeted trans people, almost immediately. Decades of records on transition and therapeutic treatments were burned, by doctors, to protect those individuals from murderous bigots. Nowadays it wouldn’t even work because that’s all digital. And the elected bastards talking about accessing teen girls’ period apps to detect pregnancy are the exact same bastards talking about globe-spanning temperature data like detecting a trend is impossible.

    wazoobonkerbrain ,

    I think I agree with you on all those points but that was one rollercoaster of a post.

    mindbleach ,

    Exciting times will do that.

    Hbombone ,

    Are you playing a character? You’re acting like the stereotypical leftist who is perpetually online and has no concept of what the real world is like.

    Your little rant is some of the most unhinged shit I’ve ever read

    mindbleach ,

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  • PlantbasedChe ,

    I am glad we have lemmy. In Reddit you could have been banned even acting on a based self defense

    Bagofbuttholes ,

    On reddit I was banned for suggesting it would be better to force change now than wait until things are even worse.

    andrewta , in Oxford High shooter’s parents have been in jail 600 days. Is $500K bond excessive?

    700? Either try them or release them. It’s innocent until proven guilty. This is just stupid to hold anyone for 700 days without a trial

    islandofcaucasus ,

    Where do you see 700?

    Tronn4 ,

    I can’t believe it’s 800!

    MasterObee , in Texas charges prisoners 50% more for water as heat wave continues

    They say that prisoners have access to tap water, but the prisoners say that tap water is crap.

    This could all be solved by, ya know, having potable tap water by fixing some of our shit infrastructure.

    Our treatment of prisoners is a disgrace.

    EhList ,
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    The infrastructure of Texas isn’t great.

    CmdrShepard ,

    Texans would be so mad at your right now if their power worked and they could get online to read this.

    _cerpin_taxt_ ,

    …and knew how to read.

    tallwookie , in Algeria wildfires: Fifteen killed and thousands evacuated
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    I had no idea they even had forests - but it seems Algeria is only mostly desert - whole bunch of trees near the Mediterranean

    moneyinphx , in Wisconsin’s Democratic governor guts Republican tax cut, increases school funding for 400 years

    Finally the Democrats are fighting fascism with pettiness!

    tate ,
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    There’s no pettiness here. The changes he made are very good, positive help for our state, whereas veto of the entire budget would have been a disaster.

    stevedidWHAT ,
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    Petty?

    tallwookie , in Analysis | Twitter rival Mastodon rife with child-abuse material, study finds
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    Mastodon is the new Discord!

    tallwookie , in Iraq and others condemn Quran-burning in Denmark
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    riots for burning a book? seems a bit extreme

    tallwookie , in Oxford High shooter’s parents have been in jail 600 days. Is $500K bond excessive?
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    bet they wish they’d invested in a gun safe

    orangeNgreen , in Elon May Have a Huge Issue Because Microsoft Owns the “X” Trademark
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    “You can’t own letters, man” -Elon, probably

    PlasmaDistortion ,

    “But I own the website! That’s no fair!”

    PervServer ,

    It’s not the letter x it’s a Unicode symbol that looks like the letter x.

    EnglishMobster ,
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    Xehanort literally malding right now

    dhorse ,

    “I can, but that’s because I’m not a penniless hippie.” Also Elon, probably

    ryathal ,

    He already lost that fight to Mercedes for the letter E.

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