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FlyingSquid , in Judges halt Biden rule offering student debt relief for those alleging colleges misled them
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For fuck’s sake, we can’t even help people who were scammed? This is insane.

tider06 ,

At this point, the whole secondary education system in the US is a giant scam to create debtors for the next 20-30 years.

MasterObee ,

Yuuuuup, degrees aren’t worth what they used to be worth, every basic job requires a degree now.

All the government has done by pushing college onto every kid, telling the kids to get enslaved by debt at age 18 to go to an overpriced college ran by politicians buddies is create an oppressed working class. Seems like it was by design

tider06 ,

Don’t forget the government ensuring that student loans are not able to be erased, even by bankruptcy.

This creates a guaranteed income stream for the banks, while also allowing the universities to crank up tuition costs, knowing that the bank will approve any student loan amount - knowing there will never be a default on that loan.

MasterObee ,

That as well, it seems like it was set up in the beginning to keep people sucking on the tits of the government and their buddies.

The government opens the flood gates of predatory loans, and forces every kid to go to classes being told they need a degree.

LazlowsBAWSAQ , in In Tuesday's special election, Ohioans overwhelmingly voted against requiring a supermajority to amend their state constitution

Woo hoo!

FlyingSquid , in Hillsborough schools cut back on Shakespeare, citing new Florida rules
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OH FOR FUCK’S SAKE! EVEN FUCKING SHAKESPEARE IS TOO “WOKE” FOR THEM!

God damn, I shouldn’t let them piss me off so much, but this is craziness.

Sharpiemarker ,

They 100% want to turn the US into a white ethnostate. Writing LGBTQIA+ people out of existence along with forcing us into a caste system is part of the plan.

FlyingSquid ,
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Yeah, but Shakespeare was a white, (probably) heterosexual Englishman who mostly just wrote about other white people. How much more ethnic whiteness do they want?

It’s Othello, isn’t it? They’re objecting to Othello.

afraid_of_zombies ,

You really can’t perform Taming of the Shrew without someone in drag.

For anyone who don’t know the first scene involves a servant boy being dressed up as a woman and pretending to be this guy’s wife. Which he remains in. It is very funny and given that all women roles were played by men in drag that must of had the original audiences in stitches seeing the 4th wall being broken.

Alexstarfire ,

Don’t forget the slavery too.

DevCat , in Uvalde shooter's cousin arrested in San Antonio for threatening to shoot a school
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Stupid doesn’t just run in that family, it gallops.

HellAwaits , in Students banned from using nicknames under new anti-trans Florida schools guidance

Freedom of speech right?

mercano , in Hillsborough schools cut back on Shakespeare, citing new Florida rules
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Ron DeSantis, I bite my thumb at thee.

bluu , in Students banned from using nicknames under new anti-trans Florida schools guidance
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Florida is the darkest timeline.

Son_of_dad , in Large brawl in Alabama as people defend Black riverboat worker against white assailants

Lol the cops show up and start arresting the black people. Not even surprised.

money_loo ,

Well yeah they were winning, usually you have to arrest the people who are winning first because it would be awkward to try to arrest someone while they're getting their ass beat.

atzanteol ,

it would be awkward to try to arrest someone while they’re getting their ass beat.

Hoo boy, do I have some awkward bodycam footage for you…

money_loo ,

First I laughed at this comment. Then I cried a little on the inside. Ugh.

Thedogspaw ,

Excuse me sir but could you kindly stop beating that mans ass so I may arrest them kind sir

trias10 ,

The cops were all black too.

theodewere ,
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so they're well trained

absentthereaper ,
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Every people has its compradors.

FlyingSquid ,
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So is Clarence Thomas. What’s your point?

zaph ,
@zaph@lemmy.world avatar

Black police showing out for the white cop

NWA addressed this already.

visak ,

NWA?

zaph ,
@zaph@lemmy.world avatar

NWA

visak ,

lol. I didn’t make the connection for some reason.

masterspace ,

twitter.com/ATLboneNbred/…/1688342570575806464?s=…

It seems like in this case they arrested most of the people involved on both sides, that first black guy that they put in cuffs they only did right after he clocked that lady in the jaw like 3ft in front of a police officer.

MicTEST ,

In the video I watched they arrested the guy who hit people, including a woman who wasn’t in the brawl at the time, with a folding chair.

zaph ,
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I like how you specifically point out the one blow a black person in the fight made that was fucked up and completely ignore the fact that the white pieces of shit started the violence. Very telling.

PizzasDontWearCapes ,

The white boaters clearly started everything but the only arrest I’ve seen as well was the guy who went all WWE with a folding chair on a woman who was already on the ground, right in front of the cops

zaph ,
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I’ve seen an article that said the 3 dudes who started it were arrested but I haven’t found anything about chair guy. Hope you’re right that was fucked. She’d just gotten her shit kicked in properly she didn’t deserve the chair.

kite ,

I just heard on the news that not only was chair guy not arrested, they don’t know who he is and police are looking for him. I want to say it was David Muir’s World News Tonight but I’m not 100% on that as I was in another room and only sort of listening

zaph ,
@zaph@lemmy.world avatar

Oh shit that’s some bittersweet news. Thanks

SamboT ,

Dude wtf. His comment was in response to the police arresting black people and he was saying why that might make sense.

As has been said, you control active threats first for your own safety. Calm down.

Fungah ,

Is active threats your new short code for African American?

SamboT ,

You want to find a racist person so badly don’t you?

zaph ,
@zaph@lemmy.world avatar

I completely understand subduing all active threats until you figure out what happened and who is actually a threat but the comment I replied to only mentioned one person and I was pointing that out.

MasterObee , in Are G.O.P. Voters Tiring of the War on ‘Wokeness’?

As a conservative, I’m fine with some broad anti-‘woke’ policies, but banning how people dress is absurd, and the insane focus from some candidates is wild.

Falmarri ,
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Lol. Implying there are other things to bring “anti woke”

MutilationWave ,

What does woke mean to you? Before it got hijacked it just meant being aware of problems in society.

MasterObee ,

Preferring races or sexuality, instructing students or pushing adults to treat different demographics differently.

FlyingSquid ,
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Can you give a real-world example of this that doesn’t reference pointless social media bickering?

adeoxymus ,

What are “broad anti woke policies” to you?

MasterObee ,

Limiting public schools from pushing gender identity and sexuality on elementary students

Parental rights in the education system.

keeb420 ,

what about the parents that want their kids to learn the facts so that they have some empathy for their peers that are lgbtq+ or learn that they are ok being lgbtq+?

MasterObee ,

what about the parents that want their kids to learn the facts

Then ya know…the parents should teach their kids that. It’s not schools responsibility to push social ideologies, it’s their jobs to help kids learn basic studies like math and reading.

dragonflyteaparty ,

How is learning something exists having it pushed on you?

MasterObee ,

exist

Nobody is questioning existence, we just don’t care for it being pushed at schools.

If I want my kid to learn solely about MAGA ideologies, should that be forced on every other kid in their class? Or, should I take some responsibility and teach my kids that myself?

mrnotoriousman ,

Being gay or trans etc. is not an "ideology" wow

MasterObee ,

Agreed, but that’s not my argument.

keeb420 ,

kids are gonna learn these things regardless, especially these days. its best to help them rather than hinder them. the ones that are lgbtq+ need to know they are fine and its ok for them to be who they are.

MasterObee ,

kids are gonna learn these things regardless,

Why? Why not let kids learn about society by…ya know, being part of society. Over representing these issues in schools despite parents wanting schools to focus on education that helps the students future is just the government pushing their own values. That’s what we don’t want, the government just taking our kids and pushing their morals, that’s literally what indian boarding schools were about.

its best to help them rather than hinder them.

How is telling kindergartners that they should cross dress helpful to our society?

the ones that are lgbtq+ need to know they are fine

Okay, so on day 1 teachers can say ‘hey if you aren’t straight or question gender, you’re fine’ then you’d be okay with it if the teachers never talked about sexuality and gender for the rest of the year?

its ok for them to be who they are.

Why shouldn’t the teachers be telling young christian boys it’s okay for them to be who they are?

FlyingSquid ,
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Please name a public school that is “pushing gender identity and sexuality” on its elementary students. I would like to see evidence of this pushing.

MasterObee ,

Seattle public school district has programs that starting in Kindergarten, are teaching kids how to socially transition their gender

Every time I’m asked this, and show them the proof, their response is ‘oh well what’s wrong with that’ - so if that’s your response, you can just skip it.

FlyingSquid ,
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Okay, how is that pushing anything? Where’s the pushing? I asked for pushing, you give me “this is something that is possible.”

MasterObee ,

Would you be saying the same thing if the k-5 education was about how much healthier and better off straight people are? Do you think teachers should spend health class saying how kids who think they’re gay should be straight instead?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Does it literally say that trans people are healthier and better off than cis people? Please tell me which video and give me a timestamp. I’m not watching all of them just to find out that wasn’t true.

MasterObee ,

The videos are telling kindergartners they’d be happier if they dress as the gender opposite of what they are.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Again- timestamp please. I am not going to watch every video just to prove you aren’t lying.

MasterObee ,

You asked for a source, I provided a source, now you’re saying ‘oh poor me, I can’t watch videos! oh well, not happening!’

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Got it. You were lying.

dragonflyteaparty ,

So, I’ve only seen the kindergarten video so far. They define the words acceptance, compassion, gender, gender role, and unique. A kid came out as trans girl. A direct quote is: “I don’t care if you’re a boy Teddy or girl Teddy. What matters is that you’re my friend.”

I fail to see how this pushes children to be trans.

MasterObee ,

See, right there! At first it’s 'no it’s not happening anywhere!! then once we show you it is happening you say ‘okay it’s happening, but what’s wrong with teaching kindergartners how to crossdress??’

Why teach kindergartners that cross dressing is fun, instead of, ya know, teaching kids useful stuff?

Our education system spends more per full time student than any other country in the world, but our test scores are shitty.

Do you think maybe there’s be less push back about teachers trying to parent our kids, if the teachers actually showed they can teach our kids reasonably?

Feathercrown ,

They’re disagreeing that what you posted counts as pushing rather than just informing; that’s not moving the goalposts, just disgareement.

MasterObee ,

They’re disagreeing that what you posted counts as pushing rather than just informing; that’s not moving the goalposts, just disgareement.

And my argument is why any at all? If they want to be gay, idc. Why do teachers need to teach them to be gay?

Feathercrown ,

There’s a difference between teaching kids about gay people and teaching them to be gay

MasterObee ,

“gay people exist, now we can go on through the rest of the school year and learn important stuff”

See, just tackled that in 2 seconds.

bdiddy ,

Yah so you are a bigot lol.

MasterObee ,

How so?

bdiddy ,

You can’t handle that people are different than you and by having the school even mention them it sends you to a rage. It’s religious grooming that fucked you up. Lots of parallel to racism. You know this thing called freedom means you won’t always like everything to come of it. We put up with your stupid ass religious horse shit. You’ll just have to deal with seeing gay people from time to time.

MasterObee ,

You can’t handle that people are different than you and by having the school even mention them it sends you to a rage

I love that people are different than me! I just don’t value anyone higher than any other individual based on their race, sex or sexuality. Those qualities don’t determine how I treat people. People are people and pushing ideologies based on our differences is absurd.

It’s religious grooming that fucked you up.

HAHAH who hates people that don’t think like them, now? Also, I had 0 religious push in my childhood.

bdiddy ,

All LGBTQ people are asking is for basic rights. The republicans are passing laws to literally ban the words gay from school books. Literally banning books lol. You have no rights on what other people’s kids are not allowed to learn about. If you want to take your kid out of school do it. Otherwise ur just a bigot

MasterObee ,

All LGBTQ people are asking is for basic rights.

What basic rights are they missing?

The republicans are passing laws to literally ban the words gay

What proposals have republicans come up with to ban the word gay from school books?

You have no rights on what other people’s kids are not allowed to learn about.

You’re right. But people who pay for the school property, maintenance costs, improvement costs, school supplies, teachers salaries, admin salaries should have a say in their kids education. Public schools are locally funded, and forcing programs in the schools counter to what the parents want is totalitarianism similar to indian boarding schools.

If you want to take your kid out of school do it.

You say that, but you prevent any attempt for parents to have an alternative to public school.

If 100% of parents in a school district didn’t want a book in their 3rd graders library, should it be there?

bdiddy , (edited )

Yes. Parents are idiots. Just because a couple religious bigots don’t want a book is meaningless. Parents don’t know how to teach kids or what the data says about what is important to learn. Parents don’t set the curriculum and they shouldn’t because by and large they are idiots.

You’ve at the very least buddied up with a bunch of bigots who would be fighting to keep black people out of their schools of this was 60 years ago.

Well done, bigot.

MasterObee ,

Yes. Parents are idiots.

All you’ve shown is that you are for government forced re-education. See, this is why conservatives have a problem with the current education system, because they’re just rebranded indian boarding schools.

Just because a couple religious bigots don’t want a book is meaningless.

You can keep saying this, but it’s an overwhelming amount of the public you’re fighting against.

Parents don’t know how to teach kids

And the fact we spend much much much more money per student on public education and constantly rank terribly in quality of education shows teachers don’t know how to teach kids or what the data says is important to learn either.

Believe it or not, teaching the little first grader named timmy that he can dress like cindy and call himself laquisha and be a girl doesn’t help math scores.

Parents don’t set the curriculum and they shouldn’t because by and large they are idiots.

And instead of leaving it up to parents, we should leave it to the government? That’s where your thoughts nad mine differentiate, the government and public systems should be meant to serve the public, not overrule them.

You’ve at the very least buddied up with a bunch of bigots who would be fighting to keep black people out of their schools of this was 60 years ago.

If that’s true, then that means you buddied up with the side that fought for slavery 200 years ago.

bdiddy ,

lol typical bigot thing to say. BUT 200 YEARS AGOOOOOO…

Nah you loser… BTW those books aren’t for you or your kid. They’re for kids who are confused about why they are different. It’s that fucking simple. Just like the products you scream about in Target aren’t for you…they are for people who would want them… Which there are a lot of.

I was jerkin off to cosmopolitan magazines by the time I was 8. You want to kids to be ashamed and repress any feelings they have that are part of being a normal human. The 3 books in a school library that talk about gay and trans are for those kids who are going through that.

No one is teaching Timmy to dress as a girl. You have been groomed by propaganda. Literally it’s not happening in any meaningful way you are just a literal bigot that has taken the side of religious whackos based on actual false information.

You’re one of the idiot parents that definitely shouldn’t have shit to do with what happens in the education of ANYONEs kids. I feel sorry if you actually have one. I’d bet you are actually just a loser incel that pretends shit’s happening in mass based on some dumb ass pod casts you listen to.

Might want to learn about actual journalism that has backup sources and data. Where you’d find literally none of the shit you think is happening is happening. Instead you’ve chosen the weak minded bigot route. You’ve been groomed and continue to this day to be groomed… It’s all republicans have. They want to dumb you down as fast as they can because if not you’d realize they are trying to strip all sorts of rights away. 1st amendment, 14th amendment. Meanwhile they pass 0 actual useful legislation. Completly deny the existance of climate change and think the earth is 6000 years old.

looolll… You’re parents fucked up with you. Hope to shit you don’t actually have a kid because you are already fucking up with it.

MasterObee ,

lol typical bigot thing to say. BUT 200 YEARS AGOOOOOO…

HAHAHA you’re the one calling me a bigot for something someone did 60 years ago. You’re a clown, homie.

bdiddy ,

No you are a bigot for wanting the government to burn books and pass laws that break the first amendment. You are the clown. Go hang out on your pod casts and figure out who else you can hate.

MasterObee ,

No you are a bigot for wanting the government to burn books

Where did I say this?

pass laws that break the first amendment

Where did I say this?

Go hang out on your pod casts and figure out who else you can hate.

I listen to some oligies with my girlfriend, that’s about it. Just because people have thoughts differently than yours, doesn’t mean they’re brainwashed and you are just right about everything. That’s the problem with the left now, it’s anything that you disagree with, is some grand conspiracy and your views are so holy and flawless. Listen to others thoughts, and analyze your own in comparison to theirs. That’s how you learn, not by attacking people that think differently than you.

bdiddy ,

dude you are legit stupid. I’m done arguing with you. Banning books is a 1st amendment violation. Parent’s dont have a right to do that. Period. You can deal with YOUR kid… not other’s and not pass laws that literally ban any book that says gay.

You are on the side of actual shitty people. Own it, you fucking loser.

Feathercrown ,

Florida’s Don’t Say Gay bill comes to mind. It prevents teachers from discussing sexual orientation at all before 4th grade.

www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557/?Tab=Bill…

MasterObee ,

You mean the Parental Rights in Education act? Your bias is showing.

It prevents teachers from discussing sexual orientation at all before 4th grade.

No it doesn’t, it prevents instruction on sexual orientation. I don’t want teachers instructing my 1st grader how to cross dress, and I’m not afraid to say it.

Feathercrown ,

Yeah that’s the one I mean. Instruction in teaching generally means teaching about a topic in general, so a discussion with the intent to teach would be covered by this.

MasterObee ,

discussion with the intent to teach would be covered by this.

See right there, you just explained the difference. Discussing is fine, discussing with intent to teach is instruction. See, not that hard to actually say the truth.

aceshigh , in Wayne Brady Comes Out as Pansexual: 'I'm Doing This for Me'
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good for him for feeling comfortable being authentic in the public eye. i’m still working on uncovering my True self.

Tenthrow , in European scientists make it official. July was the hottest month on record by far
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We’re screwed.

doppelgangmember ,

Yerp

Live it up. ~5 years? Carpe diem bichhesss

onionbaggage , in Wayne Brady Comes Out as Pansexual: 'I'm Doing This for Me'

And everyone else is a Wayne Brady sexual. This works out.

Buffaloaf , in Russia spreading false claims about Qur’an burnings to harm NATO bid, says Sweden

I thought we all assumed that’s what was happening anyways

gonzo0815 ,

But seriously, if anything fucky is going on rn, my default is that Russia is behind it. Kinda sucks because it’s just another conspiracy theory, but it fits too well not to be true most of the time. The coups going on in Niger (and Mali and Burkina Faso before) are the most obvious examples. Less obvious is the disinformation campaign in Germany (and probably all over europe) against progressive policies atm.

qaz ,

I think it’s less about being against progressive policies and more about creating societal friction by supporting controversial figures and helping politicians that are pro-russia. The conservative/ alt right politics fit Russia, but more importantly those parties are often less critical of Russia (they don’t mind their anti human rights / free press autocratic tendencies as much) while also being underrated in the polls. Populistic anti-migration parties often aren’t taken seriously and rarely included in coalitions, but get a surprising amount of votes which can still be fairly useful to influence those countries.

hark ,
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Apparently the west is just sitting on their asses doing nothing with exponentially more resources than russia?

brimnac ,

Saying one thing is happening doesn’t make it mutually exclusive for other things to be happening.

Snowpix ,
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Careful, you’re going to confuse the little tankie.

hark ,
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You’re never confused because you let your CIA handbook do all the thinking for you. Everyone you disagree with is apparently a tankie. The word has lost all meaning (if it even had one beyond bashing leftists in the first place).

hark ,
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

The person I responded to said, and I quote, “if anything fucky is going on rn, my default is that Russia is behind it.”

Telodzrum ,

The coup in Niger is directly tied to Russia through the Wagner group. Those assholes are neck deep in seemingly half the continent’s internal strife.

nightwatch_admin , in Hillsborough schools cut back on Shakespeare, citing new Florida rules

In a way, it’s fascinating to see the fall of the Roman Empire, 21st century edition.

HellAwaits , in Large brawl in Alabama as people defend Black riverboat worker against white assailants

They tried it in a big town and got their asses kicked.

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