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FlyingSquid , in Scientology is on the brink of killing an entire medical industry
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The Church of Scientology has a museum in Hollywood, CA called Psychiatry: An Industry of Death. They don’t admit it’s affiliated with the church- more on that later- it claims it’s run by the “Citizens’ Commission on Human Rights,” which is one of their lobbying groups.

Right next to it is a restaurant called The Cat and Fiddle, which happened to be where an atheist social group I was a part of when I lived there met up once a month. So one day, we decide to go over. They make you give your name and address to go in, so we gave very obvious fake ones. We were followed by what were very clearly handlers pretending to be other museum-goers who just happened to be hanging out in the lobby when we came in and gave us the sort of pious smiles you often see from religious people when they’re intentionally trying to do something shitty to you.

Once you are let in, they make you watch an incredibly boring movie which lasted about half an hour. It was so boring, I remember nothing about it except “psychiatry bad.” The link I give above shows pictures of the very silly exhibits. Now on the subject of ECT, they literally blame the Holocaust on ECT. Like Germany was giving people ECT and that turned them into Nazis and that’s how the Holocaust happened.

And then you get to the end with a bunch of plaques with their “advisors” and the names are names like John Travolta, Kelly Preston, Isaac Hayes… all the celebrities who are openly Scientologists. They didn’t really hide their affiliation very well.

It was very amusing at the time, and they didn’t charge us any money so we didn’t feel like we were contributing to church bullshit, but it does feel a lot less amusing now.

solsangraal , in Biden dropped out because “the most important thing” is “we must defeat Trump”: CBS News

D vs R = setting aside your own personal ambition in order to benefit the common good, vs wiping your ass with the common good in order to benefit your own personal ambition

danc4498 ,

The biggest challenge Democrats have had is that they want their policies to be good for everybody, even the people that hate them. This means democrats aren’t as excited about the policies and Republicans just hate everything they do no matter what.

The ACA was the perfect example of this. Dems could have done whatever they wanted, but chose a very conservative healthcare model. Dems were indifferent and Republicans just latched onto this as a lightning rod for their hatred.

Republicans on the other hand will give their base 100% of what they want with no compromise. If you didn’t vote for republicans, they don’t care what you want or how you feel. This gives their base massive enthusiasm.

aleph , (edited )
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I wouldn’t go that far. Don’t forget that the main reason Biden had to be pressured to step down in the first place was that he had effectively been foisted on lukewarm voters and that his cognitive decline had been purposefully hidden for quite some time before the infamous debate.

Yes, it’s good that he finally agreed to bow out of the race, but he only did it after weeks of massive pressure from the media and from within his own party. Without that, he would most likely be the presumptive nominee today and the Democrats would still be getting creamed in the polls.

disguy_ovahea ,

Well, to benefit his own personal ambitions and to be able to pardon himself from all those pesky federal charges. Trump’s freedom may be on the line with this election, and he knows it.

krashmo ,

That’s what they said last time and look where he is now. Sure, he’s a convicted felon and that’s sort of fun to say but that’s more of a historical footnote than a meaningful development. There’s still been no serious consequences to his actions and if I were to place a bet on it I would put money on the chance that there never will be.

disguy_ovahea ,

There hasn’t been a Federal trial yet. It’s not that the charges “didn’t stick.” They haven’t been heard yet.

krashmo ,

Oh I’m fully aware of the situation but I don’t think that changes anything I said. Do you think he’ll do prison time or be forced to dissolve any of his businesses as restitution for any of his crimes? If not then all we’re really debating is the degree to which rich and powerful people are treated differently than the rest of us.

disguy_ovahea ,

I don’t know. Another one of his attorneys turned to testify against him in the election fraud case. The documents case could absolutely lead to jail time if Smith can push for another judge. Cannon can’t postpone indefinitely without repercussions.

As for payments, if he loses his appeal in NY, he’s on the hook for half a billion.

krashmo ,

Theoretically, sure, I just don’t see any of that happening. That’s not all that different from the situation four years ago and at minimum that speed difference is a big part of what I’m referring to. Someone who stole $5000 would have started serving their sentence three and a half years ago but we’re still talking about maybe getting everything to line up to possibly take action against Trump if things go our way. That’s bullshit even if he does go to prison and as we’ve already established I don’t think that’s going to happen.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

Saudi Arabia’s already given Trump $2 billion via his son-in-law (and that’s likely just the public part of what they’ve given him). He’s not going to give a shit about a few hundred million dollars judgement, even if it doesn’t die in the appeals process.

GreenSkree ,
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Another one of his attorneys turned to testify against him in the election fraud case.

Are you talking about the fairly recent news about Jenna Ellis? Unless I’m mistaken, she’s cooperating with a different set of fake electors cases that’s based out of Arizona.

Even as someone who follows this stuff fairly regularly, it’s impossible to keep track of all of Trump’s criminal cases… and that’s just the stuff we know about that prosecutors have picked up.

The documents case could absolutely lead to jail time if Smith can push for another judge. Cannon can’t postpone indefinitely without repercussions.

If he loses the election and if the Supreme Court stays out of it, I’d agree.

He also has sentencing scheduled in September for his felony convictions, though I don’t have a clue what that will be or what appeal timeline and whatnot looks like.

It’s frustrating to see all of this move so slowly. I know these things take time, but it feels like there was no urgency in 2021 when he left office to deal with the election interference and numerous, publicly known, criminal acts.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

The only consequence he would ever face would be having to flee to Russia or Saudi Arabia to avoid prison time in the US, and that only if he weren’t given home incarceration.

VinnyDaCat , in Betsy DeVos, Who Quit Trump Admin, Says She’d Serve Again if Trump Wins

Not sure what anyone expected. This is just how conservatives are. These people have no morals or beliefs other than doing whatever is best for them at the current moment in time and they won’t even bother to disguise or hide it.

usernamesAreTricky , in Betsy DeVos, Who Quit Trump Admin, Says She’d Serve Again if Trump Wins

Republicans want the entire department of education gone. It’s in project 2025, and they keep repeating it as she did right now

She then proceeded to say she was open to the idea “only if it was with the goal of phasing out the Department of Education as we tried to do through budgetary process in the first administration

They want to gut public education at the expense of anyone living in the US

800XL ,

Can’t have a smart and informed electorate if your plan is to create a fundamentalist religious kingdom where the king is chosen by god and is infallible.

snooggums , in Donald Trump says he will flee to Venezuela if he loses election [Newsweek]
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Show us you mean it by fleeing there now. Then stay there to really get the message across.

dugmeup , in Betsy DeVos, Who Quit Trump Admin, Says She’d Serve Again if Trump Wins

Yeah of course she does

Betsy DeVos reported at least $225 million — and potentially well over $414 million — in outside income while working as Donald Trump’s education secretary, according to an analysis of DeVos’s financial disclosures by CREW. It is impossible to know the exact amount because DeVos’s income is reported in broad ranges, but we do know for a fact that she made nine figures during her four years in office.

citizensforethics.org/…/betsy-devos-made-at-least…

BigMacHole ,

Trump’s education Secretary making 9 Figures while Working for Trump is PROOF that DEMOCRATS are the Swamp!

sir_pronoun , in Scientology is on the brink of killing an entire medical industry

4chan to the rescue!

LEDZeppelin , in Former Colorado clerk Tina Peters, one-time hero to election deniers, convicted in computer breach

I wonder what it will be? 5 days of house arrest? 12 hours community service? $300 fine?

Of course she will be put back at her old job in a jiffy

some_guy , in Betsy DeVos, Who Quit Trump Admin, Says She’d Serve Again if Trump Wins

Hey, it’s that shitty lady who knew nothing about education who was in charge of education. I actually hate her more than the rest because harming education actually harms kids. Fuck you, lady.

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LEDZeppelin , in Starbucks’ CEO is out. Chipotle’s Brian Niccol is taking over

E. Coli stock prices are up 20%

TransplantedSconie , in Starbucks’ CEO is out. Chipotle’s Brian Niccol is taking over

You know what else will be out?

Your colon.

Buy local or brown bag it.

FlyingSquid , in Conservationists try to protect ecologically rich Alabama delta from development, climate change
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The former? Possible and I hope they achieve it.

The latter? Way too late.

anon6789 , in Scientology is on the brink of killing an entire medical industry
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I was curious how scientology could harass companies into bankruptcy since that seemed like harassment. I couldn’t turn up anything other than this article by searching for the companies names’ and lawsuit or scientology.

It looks like there is a lobbying organization, Citizens Commission on Human Rights International (CCHR), funded by the church of scientology. They look to be funding lawsuits brought by individuals against the ECT device makers. The lawsuits against electronic therapy look to go back to the late 1960s.

This web page looks to be an anti-ECT propaganda page, but it covers their “victory” of bankrupting another ECT manufacturer and it covers their methodology for targeting them and for trying to get the practice banned. Although it is all likely BS, it’s very clear on what their intentions are, so it’s very informative reading even if it is propaganda.

I don’t know enough about ECT to make any kind of informed decision on it, though I do generally trust moderm medicine as a whole. I was more interested in the legal process as it relates to the shared article, so take this as some threads to follow if you want to dive deeper than this article, not as me making any personal stance on ECT, since I know next to nothing about it.

gedaliyah , in Scientology is on the brink of killing an entire medical industry
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Wow, that is really a terrible shame. ECT saved my grandfather’s life. We were all nervous about it because of the bad marketing and myths out there (which in retrospect are likely perpetrated by scientology).

It was an overnight change after years of failed treatments. We had our Pop-Pop back.

dancingdots ,

What was he suffering from? If you don’t mind me asking

skinless_corpus ,

I’m not OP, but it’s typically used to treat severe depression.

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