Good to know they’ve responded to the people’s critiques of policing by doubling down on the problem. I hope more people start taking seriously the idea that we don’t need the police, and in fact any value they may offer society is simply not worth the violence. We could legitimately make our society function better by disbanding the police entirely
I think the main argument against disbanding the police is that we’d have no mechanism to prevent violence from former cops. I have no expectation that their behavior will improve if we just stop paying them.
Also if we get rid of the police we might as well get rid of a good chunk of the government while we’re at it. One of their core functions is to pass laws and with no enforcement arm there’s no point having those.
I usually couldn’t care less about electoralism, but if any politician has get rid of police and government as their platform, I will vote for them and campaign SO HARD.
Great news is that would be the last time you’d ever have to vote, too. I wonder what kinds of benevolent folks would step into that power vacuum, fun to think about.
This. The actual job of cops is to protect rich b*stards and their stuff from ordinary taxpayers. And making us pay for our own abuse with our own tax dollars.
If that goes away, they’ll just hire mercenaries, instead. They won’t give up that protection.
Enforcement of your own rights is protected by yourself. The government doesn’t enforce the right to free speech, it can’t force you to say something. The government doesn’t enforce the right to a warrant, the government is the one who makes cops enter your place without one.
The government also doesn’t enforce gun ownership to anyone but the military and the militarized police. There is no “Government supplied and required to own and use firearm”.
Governments rarely give you freedoms you never had before they came into power, they just remove the limits they enforced onto us. And they never do it willingly.
If we remove the current police we have the room to reform them better. Also the FBI is less corrupt than current state level police.
Still corrupt. But less. The FBI can do it in the meantime.
But in reality we need police reform. We need to make them walk their beats again. They need to police the places they live, not neighboring counties. They should mostly not have guns. A good chunk of the force should be replaced with social workers. And qualitative immunity needs to go away permanently.
My issue with this is the notion that there are thriving modern societies. Our modern world is a complex web of torture and exploitation. The police in my country (the USA) act far more as maintainers of the status quo of torture than they do protectors of the populace from violent crime
My issue with this notion is the implication that the modern world is uniquely tortuous and exploitative. Humans are violent, greedy, opportunistic apex predators. Our nobility and justice are individual and aspirational. The whole point of the complex web is to introduce friction and disincentives to that violence.
Should we try to minimize that violence? Absolutely! But our institutions are our attempt to crawl out of the jungle. Without police we’d have other violent gangs with even less oversight.
I encourage you to read Humankind by Rutger Bregman. The notion that humans are inherently animalistic, greedy, and violent has not been supported by the bulk of anthropological study throughout modern history, and his book does a good job of breaking down why there’s such a divide between the perception of so-called “human nature” and the anthropological and sociological evidence.
TLDR: humans aren’t inherently greedy, we respond to our systems and environment more than anything.
Thank you for this. I was about to bring up that history is littered with societies who had things pretty well squared away and were doing just fine before the touch of colonialism reached them. Societies that don’t exist anymore because they stood in the way of “progress.” Societies whose people were either enslaved, genocided, or both
That’s a nice thought, and I certainly won’t completely disregard our capacity for, but our extensive history of war and brutality proves that this absolutely universal. I’m not saying that every human is violent, but it’s silly to suggest that there aren’t violent humans at every stage of history.
What your original comment suggested was not that you acknowledged the human capacity for violence, which nobody can deny and I am not debating.
The comment implied - and this is an assumption so ingrained in our western society that nobody could blame you for it - that the only thing separating humans from violent, animalistic, or selfish impulses is societal structure and policing.
our institutions are our attempt to crawl out of the jungle
That just isn’t demonstrable, as much as it may feel intuitive. It’s a Hobbian philosophy.
I’m not here to pretend I can convince you otherwise in one comment thread, took me a long time to change my mind on that and I’m not anthropological authority. That’s why I recommend the book, it’s quite eye-opening. At least it was for me.
Specifically what I said was that individual choice separates humans from violent, animalistic, and selfish impulses. I said that societal structure introduces friction to disincentivize those impulses for those who would submit to them.
Whether US police is a uniquely thuggish corrupt arm of the moneyed establishment or not, is a different question.
But the way you are phrasing it I think you are skirting with the idea of anarchy as a (non) system of governance so the primary question here is if you think there is a need for any rules at all.
And if there is, how are they agreed upon, adjudicated and enforced in societies larger than a village.
And for the record. Yes. I am an anarchocommunist. If the cost of large societies is large scale violence, then maybe we should adjust our primary societal units into smaller, more communal units. The ideal government is one that protects the liberties of the populace from exploitation by others. As it stands our governments mainly function to ensure the exploitation continues. I’m not advocating the immediate abolishment of all government right now, but I want to make it clear that I don’t think a society that justifies the violence it enacts as being necessary to maintain society is worth maintaining as is. Such a society requires adjustment
I’m not sure there will ever be a society that doesn’t require adjustment.
Anarchocommunism - I see. In my mind seems like a theoretical construct, a temporary situation that would quickly shift to something else either by internal or external forces, a construct similar to libertarianism.
And indeed historically this has been the case.
This “small communities” construct is also pretty unhealthy if you ever had any experience in small communities as I have.
Your neighbours are your oppressors and you theirs.
Societal norms of dress, sexual preference and everything else, are enforced by societal shame, isolation, expulsion and occasional beatings in extreme cases. The rumour mill would whip up neighbours into all kinds of idiocy. They know everything about you and you about them.
Anyone that has lived the village life that had any sense couldn’t get out of there fast enough and into the anonymity of a large city where the people didn’t police each other but if needed was the protection of an independent and dispassionate (from interpersonal animus) arbiter that mostly left them alone.
You’re misunderstanding what I mean when I say smaller communities and that’s partially on me. The largely anonymous city is the unit of organization I champion as being the ideal target. We want populous cities that are self organized and self sufficient. Personally, my experience with this independent and dispassionate arbiter has never been good, so my vision for community policing moves away from a paid police force to the mechanisms I’ve already invested myself more in in the forms of mutual aid and support.
Smaller in this case is a comparison between countries that span across nearly entire continents vs the idea of a city state. We also need to protect ourselves from multinational companies that are so anonymous and foreign to the people they exploit that it’s impossible to hold them accountable
In which case how does a community of that scale operate without a rule enforcement arm?
Will there be environmental laws? Traffic laws? Food safety? Defence? Adjudication of differences?
How does it work?
Will someone be issuing driving licenses based on competence? Who’s going to check if I don’t have one?
If I don’t have the sense to drive properly or secure a dangerous load, or I drive drunk or I keep running people over or running red lights who is going to stop me?
If I assault or murder someone is it vendetta rules? What if someone accuses me of that but I haven’t done it - who figures out what happened? Are there investigators? Who’s going to stop me? Or defend me?
and if you’re not a member of the favored class they won’t respond even then. In fact, they might make your situation worse just to do it. I got pickpocketed in Louisville and the police basically told me that not having my wallet anymore was a problem I’d have to navigate on my own. Later that day they busted me for driving without a license and vagrancy because I was trying to leave Louisville to return home to VA.
I cannot emphasize enough that when people ask questions to me when I say we should dissolve the police and start anew with some new mechanism for handling crime such as “who will you call when you’re the victim of a crime” my answer is almost never the police because its very rare for them to do anything useful
Of course they can’t do anything about a crime that hasn’t been committed. Do you want police to follow people around to prevent crimes or arrest people they suspect will commit a crime.
As soon as they witness a crime they act. If you expect more than that you are looking for a police state.
Right, it’s not a good representation of crime, because the number of reports are always higher than the number of cleared cases, hence the term clearance rate, which by the way is highest for crimes against persons(murder, rape, and manslaughter) despite the earlier claim that “police only protect capital”.
Good thing there is a process to validate the arrests.
… all you did with that comment is prove that you have no real answer. You went full idiot and only pushed away the people who were unsure about which side they’re on. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if you’re a bootlicker troll and not just as dumb as you’ve made yourself look.
“The answer is not to defund the police! It’s to fund them! Fund them!!” - Joe Biden
And then he proceeded to give them money to buy more tear gas canisters and armored vehicles and liberals are surprise Pikachu face-ing when statistics like this come out.
In 100 years (if the earth lasts that long) I hope people look back at police abolition the way we look back at the abolition of slavery: as an obvious step towards a more equitable society.
For real. We need to deescalate things and I don’t think that can start with the populace defending itself to stop defending itself. The cops are bullies. The answer isn’t to lay down and wait for teacher to see we’re getting beat up. We need to deal with the bullies by demonstrating that we’re strong together
He actually declared he was running right after the DOJ announced the investigation. Only after his announcement Jack Smith was appointed special counsel, to remove any appearance of it being political.
Of course that didn’t stop him from calling it that way anyway.
The real reason he is still running is to avoid jail.
I’ve worked IT systems for hospitals my entire career; this Hospital franchise uses Epic Systems as their EMR, I know it well, I have like 7 certs for Epic System modules. There is a TON of paperwork associated with a discharge against medical advice since the hospitals definitely want to cover their butts in such cases.
There is ZERO chance the hospital mixed her release as leaving against medical advice and/or have the documentation to back that up. Even if the person just sneaks out of the hospital, that is considered a “code” alert (colour depends on the hospital) until they can determine the patient is not in danger to themselves or others. Again, ZERO chance this happened without more than one person knowingly falsifying records… best I can imagine to give the Hospital the benefit of doubt, is criminal negligence
Moreover, death in hospitals and handling (as in moving and storing) of human remains has an even bigger avalanche of regulations and documentation, all of which would have to be completely missing for them not to notice.
Am nurse. You are allowed to walk out AMA without signing shit if you have capacity and you’re generally assumed to have capacity unless indicated otherwise. I would like you to sign the documents, but I cannot force you or imprison you and I’m not going to call security. Going AMA without signing something or seeing a doctor is not elopement.
Since she called her mother saying she needed a ride on the 8th and they stated she went AMA on the 8th, I honestly believe she went AMA, maybe even signed it, and then ended up dying off the unit. It’s the most plausible scenario. How everything else got fucked up is another situation. If they already discharged her maybe they didn’t readmit once she died? Everyone thought it was someone else’s job? Saw she was “discharged” on the board and thought someone else already handled the death checklist?
Sure you are allowed but that is documented. In Canada if someone gets out of bed and leaves the hospital, the patient and/or next of kin are contacted. If that fails and it is determined there is no risk, the fact the patient left without announcing it is documented and it’s not the same form as the regular AMA (where patient do sign)
The above part of the scenario may be muddy but there is zero justification for the handling of the remains. This person clearly died in the hospital or close enough to be returned. How is that part mishandled for a year when they also have a patient missing??!
Also, all my respect to nurses, you are the life blood of the hethcare system. However, this is an administrative fuck up, not something nurses are expected to deal with (again, at least not in Canada). A nurse would announce a patient just walked away and it’s the job of admins and sometime social workers from there on
In my state, nurses handle discharge entirely, whether it’s to the door or to the pearly gates. Someone may look over our work later, but we’re the ones who set the chart to be flagged as discharged and we’re the ones who ensure they’re correctly tagged and carted to the morgue. Generally we do not notify someone’s next of kin of their AMA in the US as that would be a HIPPA violation unless they’re deemed to be in danger and without capacity. Everything, as always, has carve outs and grey areas.
What happened with the body makes it sound like a Jane Doe unclaimed, but regardless there was systemic fuck ups going on here.
In case anyone is wondering, he won a pitch competition hosted by 3M who sponsored him to do research into adding imiquimod to soap: time.com/6996507/heman-bekele/
Unfortunately, probably nothing will come of this because as Times’s own article states, the FDA would take at least a decade before approving it, meaning the only way they’ll be able to rapidly prototype it would be with the full backing of a pharmaceutical company (3M) which means they’ll be selling 40k per unit bars of soap.
ie cough up half a million for skin cancer treatment anyway.
But thanks 3M for pretending to care about cancer after you got sued for exposing the entire US population to PFAS.
If there’s one place I don’t want to be, it’s inside JD Vance’s couch cushions. If you could even separate them at this point, they’ve got to be crusted together.
That’s the best, and worst, part. The left just doesn’t ever need to create boogey-men because the right simply cannot help themselves but be just the fucking worst. They say it all themselves, none of that misrepresenting or twisting of words or anything, they just fuckin’ say how shitty they are all the damn time. And you can still double check to make sure!
My wife wanted to sit out the election when it was Biden running over his unending support of the slaughter in Gaza, and the only thing that got her out to vote was that the were also some ballot measures which needed votes. I wrote on Cenk Uyger for the primary myself, not sure how she voted. Now we’re both super excited to vote for Harris/Walz
Obviously we’ve got fairly similar political views
Or, their leases ran out and they were able to move to smaller, cheaper office space by telling everyone to stay home. And think of all the awful coffee that no longer needs to be bought in bulk.
I mean, every piece of copaganda is like: “look, see? We’re just your friendly, neighborhood guys! We like playing basketball with black kids! Isn’t that cool??”
I don’t know that they specifically had a campaign that said: “we’re not a gang”, but that’s kind of the subtext of all of the PR they do.
in the same way a phlebotomist should still try to get blood from an actual stone?
because - and with all due respect to journalists of all backgrounds - i’m neither black nor a journalist, but i would think that if i were either (or both) i’d know a huge waste of my time when i saw one.
This doesn’t work. I hope they’re not naive enough to think that’ll work. It doesn’t even matter what happens there. All Trump and his team want is the victory of him appearing there. They want the photo opportunity, they want the headline, they want to be able to say look the blacks love us. And they know nobody in their base is going to question it. They also know the vast majority of Americans won’t check into the actual events
McDonald’s has a pretty shitty loyalty program anyway. They have a very limited selection of stuff you can even spend the points on and you can’t both use points and a daily deal at the same time.
I agree it’s shitty, but you can definitely use points and a deal in the same order. I do it all the time. You cannot do 2 deals or 2 point redemptions in the same order.
There’s a pizza place near my house that does wood-fired NY pizza, two giant slices plus a soda, for $7.50.
I dunno how they’re making those prices work, but that’s the only junk food meal I’m buying these days. I’d pay more for less food of worse quality at any fast food place.
Because good food is cheap to make, especially when buying in bulk like restaurants. Pizza is super cheap to make from scratch, especially when you factor in restaurants buying in bulk. I make pizza from scratch pretty often, the dough is negligible cost wise (bread flour, water, salt, and yeast), the sauce is semi-expensive to make only because I use the fancy san-marzano tomatoes and make almost a gallon of amazing sauce for $18 (mainly the cost of the tomatoes) - for sauce good enough to get from a restaurant you could easily make a lot more for a lot less. The toppings vary in cost obviously, but those are easy to pass the cost on to the consumer.
Soda is also negligible cost wise, the syrup for a very large cup of soda is maybe a few cents for the restaurant, soda has one of the highest markups of any food items.
In my high-falutin’ local grocery store, 2-liter bottles of soda are $2.89, which is ridiculous enough. It’s interesting that they often have 2-for-1 sales while at the poor people grocery store the soda is over $3 and never goes on sale. At drug stores it’s even more absurd, well over $4 per 2-liter bottle - I just cannot believe people shop at those places at all, especially when they’re literally next door to a much cheaper grocery store.
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