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Ghostalmedia ,
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Gen X: “Forgotten again. Whatever.”

Dead_or_Alive ,

Came here to say the same thing brother.

Reddfugee42 ,

As if we want this attention. I’m just gonna go to my empty latchkey home and play Nintendo.

AngryCommieKender ,

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again.

Thanks for forgetting Gen X. We’ll be over in the corner playing video games. If anyone needs us? Don’t.

ohitsbreadley , (edited )

Yes, but …

Setting aside the polarized nature of named generations, as a class; for these are entirely arbitrary and designed to create polarization …

There’s fun theory on the “Gen X are forgotten” meme. Yes yes, you Gen Xers got shafted, here’s a cookie 🍪 Please hear me out.

Most people fall on the cusps of their “generation” and Gen X is no different - in this case, you’re either old enough to identify with boomers, and are shouting “snowflake millennial” with them; or you’re young enough to identify with millennials, but still too old to identify with Gen Z, so you’re shouting “cringe zoomer” with the millennials, they who are cuspers themselves and too old to identify with Gen Z. The quintessential Gen Xer is uncommon, but exceptionally kind. You always know when one is around though, because they are quick with a self deprecation point out that Gen X was “forgotten again.” 😉

The sad thing is that many of the so-called boomers are being replaced by Gen Xers. And the millennials shouting the same inter-generational slurs will eventually take the throne of generational bully.

On the other hand, there is hope inspired by this meme - all we need to do to stop inter-generational trauma is stop perpetrating it.

toast ,

Gen-X is a much smaller group than either Boomers or Millennials. It is treated differently mostly because of this. I don’t think we’re going to start treating Gen-X as the bully, because it just doesn’t have the numbers to be an effective bully

Hackerman_uwu ,

The only millennials I give a shit about are the ones who made my life painful as they entered the working world and even then, away from the office as long as they are not trying to police speech we are chill.

ohitsbreadley ,

What do you mean by “police speech?”

AngryCommieKender ,

We like it that way. If anyone needs us? Don’t.

Leviathan ,

As a millennial, the only humans I hate are the rich. The rest of you are cool, even if some of you are dumb as rocks.

stoy ,

Millenial here, I don’t hate the rich, I hate the rich who has enough money to treat earning money as just a highscore challange.

fidodo ,

I think when most people say “the rich” it’s shorthand for super rich like the people you’re talking about.

CyberDine ,

“The .1%” “Billionaires” “Trust Fund babies”

NightAuthor ,

I think you can be a “trust fund baby” and still only have like millions or 10s of millions. Which is enough to squander in your lifetime…. I can be jealous of people in that situation and not hate. It’s the billionaires with more money than their families could use in 5 generations and who are still accumulating more. Those people can get guillotined.

BedSharkPal ,

Yeah but a lot of non rich people supported policies and individuals who were just fine with a system that allowed for the Uber rich goofs to exist.

rwhitisissle ,

And pretty much an equal amount actively fought against those policies, but were not politically effective in doing so as a result of complex historical and political factors. The Baby Boomers were and are complicated, just as everyone is, and it’s kind of incorrect to treat them monolithically because as a generational cohort, the Boomers were ludicrously massive. So much so that there can actually be considered two dominant sub-cohorts within that generation. Early boomers protested Vietnam and made huge contributions to American racial, gender, reproductive, and sexual rights. Late generation Baby Boomers, sometimes referred to as “Generation Jones” grew up in an era of political malaise, and lived through the economic recession of the 1970s, Watergate, the Iranian hostage crisis, and a bunch of other things that helped to shape their more generally conservative political identities.

Lmaydev ,

A lot of them were essentially tricked into supporting things against their interests by a powerful media machine.

As they say never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.

It’s hard to draw a line on who’s to blame. But I’d see the evil people tricking stupid people are much worse.

Leviathan ,

That’s what I meant by some being dumb as rocks. They face a lot of propaganda and algorithms on the daily and it’s probably real hard for them to see through.

ByteJunk ,
@ByteJunk@lemmy.world avatar

I think these go into OP’s “dumb as rocks” category.

Carlo ,

That’s a good way to be. I try to do this, but it’s hard not to hold people’s stupidity against them when they plaster it all over the back of their car.

Leviathan ,

Yes. I totally agree, I just try to remember that they’re constantly being bombarded with propaganda and that it takes a lot of mental gymnastics to keep supporting their daddy’s favorite football team political party.

loaExMachina ,

No war between the gens, no peace between the classes!

lelgenio ,
@lelgenio@lemmy.ml avatar

The circle has already been broken, as ~zoomer, the vast majority of millennials I interacted with were really nice people.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

As a millennial, the vast majority of zoomers I've interacted with have been cool.

CTDummy ,

Yeah that’s been my experience as well and I work for a bar. Most of my coworkers in that generation have been easier to get along with, easier to communicate with and don’t visibly panic at a “dead inside” joke. Direct contrast to my last workplace with more millennials/boomers. Ive yet to cop inter-generational shit talking from zoomers so they sure won’t get it from me. Plus look what they did with memes.

cloud_punk ,

Same, I’m not sure who this meme is really intended for

cmbabul ,

I’m a millennial and I love you guys, my aim is to be kinder and more helpful to y’all than our predecessors were to us

AnarchoSnowPlow ,

Gen Xers have always been pretty cool, as long as you don’t expect them to care about much. I get the feeling that the close proximity to the Boomers really took it out of them.

cmbabul ,

I have a lot of sympathy for them in general and plenty of them are pretty cool, but the product of not caring is that there a lot of selfish asshole xers, I don’t hold it as a rule, but they certainly didn’t try to support or guide us much in my experience

Edit: to be clear when I say predecessors I mean boomers because they are the age group with the most representation in power since I was born

andthenthreemore ,
@andthenthreemore@startrek.website avatar

We did the work so you don’t have to. 😝

ultra ,

I’m a really young zoomer and most millenials I interacted with were also really nice.

But there were also a few jerks

RubberElectrons ,
@RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

Life, in a nutshell haha.

This comment brought to you by the-people-who-got-blamed-for-playing-video-games-instead-of-buying-houses.com

theangryseal ,

I am that dude they were complaining about. They used me as some sort of representative to attack the rest of you with.

I came really close to owning a home one time. It was just outside of this really terrible neighborhood and only cost 20k. This was in 2015. The house was small, but it had a barn, a chicken coop, a big area for horses that the neighbor was using (and I agreed to continue to let them use it if they’d teach my kids to ride the horses). A drive down the hillside led to trash and drugs. Somehow it didn’t extend up the hill yet.

Actually I know why it didn’t. In 2001 the neighborhood below it was flooded. The folks who lived there for years and kept it nice took the fema bucks and rolled out. The houses sold for 4-6k and the people who migrated over from the poorest part of West Virginia didn’t even bother repairing them. They just moved right in.

That killed the property value all around it, which was fine with me.

We were all set to close on the loan when I caught my ex cheating and my whole life caved in. Oh well, such is life.

It kind of stings to think I’d own it right now and a chance like that probably won’t ever happen again. The problems would have probably spread up that way eventually though and I’d regret moving there. That helps a bit.

Cracks_InTheWalls ,
@Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works avatar

Take this fist bump, fellow cheating-partner-cost-me-a-house human.

sad fist bump

theangryseal ,

Sucks don’t it?

I learned a lot about life through all that mess though.

I’d forgive her, she’d do it again. She’d say she loved me, then sit up in the bed in the middle of the night and say, “I just don’t love you anymore.” The chaos would start again. I’d go crash with my mom, she’d ask me to come back, then she’d make me leave again after a week or so. This dragged on for about 3 years. The last time I was driving her to work, leaned in to kiss her, seen a mark on her neck. I rolled out, she was fine with that. I met someone else, she lost her damn mind. Ended up being committed, finally settled down with the last guy she cheated with, was diagnosed with breast cancer and died at 33.

Fortunately for her, he is a great dude. He took care of her and stayed by her side through all of that hell. He still maintains an active role in my daughter’s life and he doesn’t have to do that. She’s there now actually. She’s been there for a couple weeks.

I learned that I have control over nothing. Every aspect of my life is one moment away from pure chaos and destruction, so I’m thankful for what I have while I have it. Nothing is promised, nothing is permanent. I find meaning and comfort in exactly this moment and I’m ok with that. When the hard times come, I will survive them until I eventually don’t. That is reality for all of us, I’m not special, and anyone who finds me special will find me special for a time. Believe it or not, I have peace.

RubberElectrons ,
@RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry for all involved. But yeah, we all just… Exist. We choose to make meaning for ourselves, if we want to.

theangryseal , (edited )

It’s crazy. She was my meaning for so long. I started seeing her when she was 14 (lied and said she was 15) and I was just about to turn 18. The final split happened when she was 30 and I was 34.

It’s funny. She told me she was moving in with me when she turned 18. She did. She packed her bags and came to stay. About 3 days in I got a call at work, “If you don’t bring my daughter home, you and your roommate are going to jail.” I stupidly replied, “Well, she’s 18 so you can kiss my ass.” Her mother was abusive as hell, or so she said. The girl couldn’t tell the truth, seriously. I learned to take everything she said with a grain of salt and loved her any way. Everywhere she went she had some big story though. Anyway, I hung up the phone and less than a minute later it rang again, “I don’t know what Miss Lie About Everything told you, but she just turned 17. Bring her home or go to jail.”

I confronted her, “I’m so sorry, I was just so into you and I knew you wouldn’t be interested if I told you the truth, and what’s one year? At this point I was too embarrassed and I didn’t know what to do. I hoped she just wouldn’t care that I was gone.” (Which is an indicator that her stories of abuse were true).

A couple months later I had forgiven her, a year later she packed her bags and came again.

Her mom and grandma showed up and tried to get her to leave. Right to my face her mom said, “He’s worthless honey. Is this the life you want?” Her grandma chimed in, “Please come home. We love you so much.”

She stayed. Nearly 15 years, not counting the time we spent close before that. I literally didn’t believe she’d ever cheat. I was special her. I meant something. I really didn’t think she’d do it.

But she did.

Somehow I’m doing better than ever despite all of that chaos. I’m with someone that I really get along with, someone who I love to go out of my way for. It’s a whole different world. I hope she never leaves, but if she does, I know I’ll make it.

Take care bud.

Promethiel ,
@Promethiel@lemmy.world avatar

There’s a thin line between anguished despair and nihilistic optimism.

A thin, intentional line.

It can be alluded to, highlighted, charted, and otherwise discussed ad-infinitum, but it’s damn near impossible to lead another to.

Only have one comment to read (and I’m sorry how much it cost) but it looks like you’re at peace indeed.

Kudos to you, but remember you can backslide in acceptance and working back out is okay too!

Luminocta ,

I think boomers to millennials would make more sense. Boomers are so hateful and desperate to keep what was promised to them that they will hold on to it even if it costs 3 generations of people almost everything.

AngryCommieKender ,

They were hating on us Gen Xers while we were still in grade school. Giving us shit for the participation ribbons, they imagined, designed, bought, and handed out to us

nickwitha_k , (edited )

They invented participation ribbons and trophies, I’m almost convinced, just so they could give them to us millenials and you Xers on field day and immediately shit on us for involuntarily receiving them in fucking kindergarten as though we didn’t hate how transparently bullshit they were. I destroyed mine in creative, almost ceremonial ways.

exocrinous ,

Let’s normalise calling boomers the participation trophy generation

rwhitisissle , (edited )

Is the inheritance of generational hatred depicted here even real? Some of the nicest people I’ve interacted with in my entire life were Baby Boomers. I’ve met shittier Gen Xers and Millennials than Baby Boomers.

Auli ,

It’s all bullshit, just generated for people to hate someone other then the ones they should be.

Katrisia ,

I use TikTok (I know…). There, when there’s rivalry, it is frequently ‘gen Z’ the one bullying ‘millennials’. They criticize the way they use technology, their fashion sense, their attitudes, their musical tastes, etc. Studies are noticing that ‘gen Z’ tend more to the right-wing, so I guess there’s a part of them also criticizing previous generations for being too leftists or whatever.

I use the quotation marks because this whole generational thing seems to me arbitrary and U.S.-centric. I’m in the years that are considered the transition between these two generations and I share characteristics with both. It’s silly how serious we’ve taken this thing.

sanpedropeddler ,

I’ve noticed the same thing between many generations regardless of chronology. I’ve also noticed it outside of the us. I think the root issue is that groups of people want other groups of people to be angry at.

Zorg ,
@Zorg@lemmings.world avatar

Gen Z right-wing? Wikipedia could be wrong, but:

Generation Z is generally alike to Millennials on political and social issues.[5] Generation Z has been reported to be “progressive and pro-government”,[6] though this narrative has occasionally been challenged, particularly in Europe. The generation is largely in favor of LGBT rights, gender equality, and access to abortion. Economically, Generation Z has a more favorable outlook on socialism than previous generations. Gen Z varies largely by country on whether to make it easier for legal migrants to live and work in their home countries. en.wikipedia.org/…/Political_views_of_Generation_….

averyminya ,

R.E. politics, the tail-end millennials (me) grew up during the death of education which I think is a huge factor. For every good part of our education was two dying branches of it. Funding going down, extracurriculars being cut, food quality going down, strikes in colleges for pay and I mean so, so many others. And I grew up in California where education was a heavy focus, especially for anyone who wanted to get out. But despite all the shortcomings of our education system, we had teachers who cared and some students who wanted to learn, these teachers were mostly all within a decade of my age now and so they were fairly young and politically minded. Some were Teach for America staff so they were literally just out of college, I’m sure many remember what it’s like to have that mindset. We also grew up in the Obama years so we had the full range of “holy shit first black President representing us!” to “oh God he bombed Syria” which pretty heavily politicized us (and then we got Trump who appointed Betsy DeVoss as Sec. of Education which set that politicization further). I can’t speak for all millennials of course but I feel like all this led to us being hyper-aware of our politics making it especially easy to see the insanity that Fox News peddles, and more recently the transition of CNN from biased but informational to Fox News lite. All in all it’s a pretty strong foundation for young leftists to form some convictions.

It seems to me that Gen Z did not have these foundations by design. In 2016 with the appointment of Betsy DeVoss as Secretary of Education our school system was absolutely butchered. Fox News wasn’t even under the guise of news anymore, it’s just “pundit” talk shows providing “statistics” that they use to push hate. They grew up with the tail end of Obama culling any possibly early sense of hope that the millennials had. That apathy only further onset when Trump was elected, but not just apathy. Since in red states where the changes to education hit the hardest it became identity politics, now the identity of an individual has become politicized, something that has only been exacerbated by our media. IMO that’s why the events of Kyle Rittenhouse went down how they did, a child was politicized by their area and family and instead of being politically minded about it they made it about some identity that doesn’t exist. And nevermind the societal changes they grew up with, as they’re the first generation to grow up fully inundated with technology and the Internet, getting barrages of >1 min clips that can never tell the full story.

I agree with you overall in that millennial and gen Z are closer generations than most, but I do think there are some important distinctions that likely influenced how each of these generations grow up to interact with the world. I also think that it seems likely that these polls probably won’t get as many responses from certain demographics due to potential lifestyles. Someone in a liberal city may not answer the poll because they’ve got the city life to live, whereas someone who gets the poll and they’re done with their school day and the neighbors are 40 minutes away… sure, nothing better to do let’s fill this out. So I don’t think Gen Z is entirely set to be conservative, however I do think their elders have been heavily gearing up to try and brainwash them with their archaic mindset. I don’t particularly see a reason why a group of highschoolers would campaign for conservatives otherwise.

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

What millennials pick on zoomers, where?

exocrinous ,

I don’t have a problem with zoomers, but I will make fun of them for using TikTok. It’s an unhealthy social environment. I know a zoomer who struggles with tiktok addiction and always does more poorly after using that app. They’ve been braver and kinder since they quit it.

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

So instead of building a better platform for them, you denigrate them for conforming to the world you left behind for them.

You are exactly the boomer you claim to hate

barsoap ,

So if they’re not going to save the world, nothing they ever do amounts to anything. Worse, the whole thing worked (the Zoomer quit Tiktok and they feel better now) so that was obviously bad.

And now, and please do mind that has nothing to do with age: Your argument is dumb and you should feel bad. In fact the first thing is Boomer talk, the shit they tried to get us with. Fuck that.

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

Feel free to waste your time beating up that strawman all you like; the rest of us have actual important shit to do.

barsoap ,

At some point further down in your life you’re going to look back, in regret, thinking “Why did I become the me version of Ben Shapiro”.

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

And now the projection starts.

Tell you what. I’ll just block you now and you waste my time again never.

doctorcrimson ,

I’m a millennial and I’m constantly reminding them that their generation is fucked. We can joke about overreliance on screens but they actually require it to SLEEP…

I think the strength needed to fix our world is completely lacking from first world children, that they instead escape into fantasy and whimsy and shut out the larger world. They get led around by the nose by propoganda and trends, by celebrity worship and corporate marketing.

The_Lopen ,

Why is it on the kids to fix the shitty situation other generations have created?

doctorcrimson ,

It’s on the other generations, too. It’s not going to end before we’re all dead. Passing the torch is barely functional, if a single generation fails to pick up the work set by the previous then our race will die out. Generations are generally better than their predecessors, but only because their predecessors mould them to fit the world they’ve created, and that work must continue for generations to come. They do not become the way they are on their own.

Knoxvomica ,

Hey Google what’s the definition of nihilism?

doctorcrimson ,

Are you saying you’re nihilistic and therefor that you don’t care or are you implying that I am nihilistic for worrying about the future? Because both of those sentiments are bad for very different reasons: one is wrong and the other is selfish. Thanks for accidentally arguing on my behalf.

Knoxvomica ,

I’m making fun of you if that wasn’t clear. No, the next generation are not weak, incapable or any other sort of negative generalization that you might think they are. They are people as diverse any other generation and the whole point of this post is to espouse that generational stereotypes only serve to hurt us and divide us from accomplishing better things for humanity.

doctorcrimson ,

I’m glad you were willing to admit you were wrong.

unionagainstdhmo ,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

You must be a real treat to be around. I’ve never met anyone in Gen Z who exhibits any of that behaviour. Maybe you’re just exaggerating a bit based on very few people, in the off chance that you might have some evidence to support this please share it

doctorcrimson ,

If out of all of the people from an entire generation, you have never met anybody who fits such a vague description, I would accuse you of having not left your home for a long time.

unionagainstdhmo ,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

I so happen to be of that generation and we’re exposed to many of my generation through school and university. I assure you the type you mention who need a screen to sleep and worship celebrities represent a very small proportion. If you think everyone from Gen Z is like that I would accuse you of never leaving Instagram or YouTube

panda_paddle ,

They don’t know how to use the shift key to make capital letters. They are lost.

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

Jesus Christ, and when boomers say the same about you, you have the nerve to act like a victim

Pyr_Pressure ,

I’m not a fan of the tiktok Insta influencer culture and communicating in 90% emojis but other than that it’s all good.

barsoap ,

Me, here.

Picking on younger generations is healthy and natural: They’re still figuring stuff out and it’s a good way to give some teachings while everyone has a chuckle. What’s not healthy and natural is leaving them with neuroses where silent expectations, judgements, unwillingness to see their side etc. are the usual weapons: Don’t carry a dagger behind your back, doubly so don’t be unconscious of it, instead, open-carry a super soaker.

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

Said the dumbass craven bully who needs to pick on people weaker than themselves to feel better

barsoap ,

So you wouldn’t pick a snowball fight with a whole primary school because you’re oh so moral, not because you’re scared. Makes sense.

pinkdrunkenelephants , (edited )

Unlike you I do not, in fact, fear five-year-olds. And it’s not because of fear or principle. It is because I am not a craven, sadistic lunatic who feels the need to harm children to prove a point.

barsoap ,

I shall look forward towards your experience report picking that snowball fight with a whole primary school, then. Also primary school is like 6-10, at least over here. They can throw.

JackOfAllTraits ,
@JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world avatar

Millenials in the coments talking about how the millenials are actualy cool and already stopped generational trauma: 1000009147

tatterdemalion ,
@tatterdemalion@programming.dev avatar

We think we’re Ricks but we’re actually Jerrys.

Zozano ,

I, for one, think Jerry is the best. I take pride in accepting a simple life.

LeafOnTheWind ,

“I just kept crawling and it just kept working…”

paholg ,

I hope that anyone who thinks they’re a Rick spends a lot of time in therapy and on self-reflection, working to change that.

xX_fnord_Xx ,

Alcohol is cheaper than therapy.

Lightor ,

Yeah, I get this is kinda cringe, but let’s not do the thing where we insult the people that we want to change and help us. That’s very boomer.

JackOfAllTraits ,
@JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world avatar

I think you misunderstood me…

gun ,
@gun@lemmy.ml avatar

Skibidi toilet? Maybe mom and dad were right

bighatchester ,

I’m making a skibidi toilet themed cake for my son’s 6th birthday. I find it all very hilarious.

gun ,
@gun@lemmy.ml avatar

Nooooo 😭😭😭

youtu.be/sWuuDFyVER0

bighatchester ,

Love it ! These are going to be the cake toppers https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f877f7fe-dde8-41a5-a2aa-7ff951253074.jpeg

Lightor ,

In these comments it’s just more generation vs generation BS. We’re attacking the wrong group. Like 10 people have 90% of the money in the world. Someone dancing on Tiktok or being on their phone more isn’t the problem.

Zink ,

I’m part of the Oregon Trail generation, essentially the border between X and millennial.

I definitely try to do what the meme shows, but I had to post because I’m in my 40s and I recognize the meme because I have a 6 year old.

Facebones ,

I’m going to start using that identifier 😂

MonkderZweite ,

So zoomer is born in the 90’s?

Blackmist ,

Good luck with that, Zoomers will never be able to afford to have kids.

BirdyBoogleBop ,

Nah. Everyone says everything is cringe. You can’t do anything without it being cringe.

rwhitisissle ,

Baby Boomers as a generational cohort are well on their way to completely dying off and generational antagonism is a tool of the capitalist class to turn the workers of different ages against one another. Be better than that. Make better memes.

AVincentInSpace ,

generational antagonism is a tool of the capitalist class to turn workers against each other

Isn’t that what this meme is about?

1371113 ,

No.

AVincentInSpace ,

Okay, it’s not about that, but it is about why generational antagonism is stupid

1371113 ,

Online I see this sort of rage bait all the time. In the real world everyone I talk to thinks there’s arseholes and good people in every age group. Stop feeding the media’s narratives. It’s what made reddit shit and it will ruin Lemmy too if we let it. Downvote it, move on. Too many bots and social media entities use it drive traffic and influence the online conversation that eventually ends up influencing the real world.

AVincentInSpace ,

Literally how is this image rage bait? It’s saying that even if previously generations were shitty to you, don’t be shitty to the next one.

rwhitisissle ,

It assumes multiple entire generations of people were shitty and verbally abusive to their children on the basis of nothing more than being from a different generation.

Gabu ,

Generational antagonism predates capitalism by about 2 thousand years (of our recorded history)

rwhitisissle ,

And it’s always been a cudgel used by the powers that be to distract from the real sources of everyone else’s problems. Funny how that works.

soggy_kitty ,

Never been called a snowflake or saw someone call another a cringe zoomer outside of toxic online communities.

Get out more, the real world is different

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