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Fades , in You ain't fooling anyone

Hey cool, we work at the same company

psmgx , in Atleast it comes with a Allen Key...

How many Ukranian marriages will be destroyed while assembling that?

DarkCloud , in Uncanny Valley

Neanderthals and others existed contemporaneously didn’t they…

… but also, so many parts of our brain are needed to do facial recognition that we’re prone to seeing faces where there are none…

…so it’s possible that what we’re on the watch for is other humans trying to ambush us, which means regular people hiding = uncanny valley = fear.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
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I was thinking of the Denisovans

collapse_already ,

Don’t forget Bigfoot, the rake, and skin walkers.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
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not to mention el chupacabra

edit: dammit I mentioned him

CleoTheWizard ,
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Alternate theory: The human brain is reacting to unfamiliarity and not alien features. We strongly associate Uncanny Valley with things not-quite human but it’s my thinking that it’s a tribal thing. Nowadays we see a ton of faces of all variations but I bet when we were hunter gatherers, we only saw features of our own tribe. The moment you meet another tribe, I’d bet this response is to create fear of the unrecognized human. It’s also probably there as a punishment mechanism for us seeing faces in everything.

The times that the uncanny effect hit hardest is when you think something is human or is a face potentially before finding out you’re wrong. So that’s my basis for thinking its there to keep us from being mistaken.

NigelFrobisher , in You ain't fooling anyone

“Must be experienced at balancing multiple competing priorities”.

TheControlled , in I don't know if my PC can handle this

Did TechLinked rip this meme off or this meme rip them off?

RmDebArc_5 OP ,
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I don’t watch TechLinked but maybe they just had the same idea

AVincentInSpace , in I don't know if my PC can handle this

this is some serious Bosnian Ape Society shit.

variants , in Uncanny Valley

Or the biological need to be afraid of ourselves because if I saw a human standing in my backyard in the shadows I would be as scared as if it were an alien, humans aren’t a joke when they want to kill or maim and humans love to kill or maim if they need something you have

OldManBOMBIN ,

My brother accidentally cut his foot open with an axe about an hour ago. That’s how much humans love to maim. We do it idly as we work.

AnarchistArtificer ,

Yup. We’re least safe when we most think we’re safe. Architects of self fulfilling prophecies

OldManBOMBIN ,

I’m an engineer actually

AnarchistArtificer ,

That’s a hilarious reply, and I can’t think of a witty response to match it

OldManBOMBIN ,

Yeah that sounds like an architect XD

AnarchistArtificer ,

Fuckin’ savage.

OldManBOMBIN ,

Love you

Sanctus , in Inappropriate for some users
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CGTN is funded in whole or in part by the Chinese Government.

hackerwacker OP ,

Wow thank you kind stranger, I only believe things approved by the unaccountable billionaire donor class, not by a dirty government.

Sanctus ,
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I also tend to only believe things funded by those with a vested interest in that thing doing bad.

RealFknNito ,
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No you’re right, we should take the side of the government who actively performs military drills off the coast of a mostly defenseless island of people to subjegate them. The side of a country who has countless times shown us they not only don’t respect our way of living but actively support our enemies like Russia. The side of a country that if given the option would propagandize us the same way they do their citizens. Heard of Tiananmen square?

I’d rather be exploited by billionaires for my work than lied to, manipulated by, exploited by, then murdered by my government in the streets.

Flatworm7591 ,

Nice false dichotomy.

Rozauhtuno , in Uncanny Valley
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Ancient androids, obviously.

Donjuanme , in Uncanny Valley

Or you need to identify those who aren’t behaving properly (sickness or other resource intense disability) and should be outcast from the group (something we don’t need to do today, but the right wing narrative insists that need to do)

Num10ck ,

we should be outcasting all sorts of toxic behaviors instead of putting them in charge.

Donjuanme ,

I do believe there’s a happy medium between out-casting and electing, probably even a large amount of medium space.

But that’s not what you get in a first past the post system.

Num10ck ,

agreed but i also mean business leaders

Ragnarok314159 ,

Usually they just an MBA.

MindTraveller ,

Yeah, like neurotypical people. There should be a rule against holding office in government if you’re neurotypical.

flicker ,

I was thinking rabies.

A person who looks wrong.

Ragnarok314159 ,

I was thinking psychopath. Someone who tries to blend in and act normal but never quite gets it. We have no problem be horrors to other species, but early humans couldn’t afford a psychopath willing and wanting to kill their own tribe.

MindTraveller ,

Psychopath is just Latin for mentally ill person. Someone suffering from depression is a “psychopath”, and no, depressed people aren’t dangerous. What the fuck is wrong with you?

dunz ,
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Even though that’s what the latin translation is, that’s not what the word means. The definition is “Psychopathy, or psychopathic personality is a personality construct characterized by impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egocentric traits masked by superficial charm and the outward presence of apparent normality”.

MindTraveller ,

It’s not in the DSM, because it’s not real. It’s a fake diagnosis pushed by pseudoscientists.

hellofriend ,

Okay, first of all: the DSM is used primarily in North America. The majority of the world uses ICDM.

Secondly, the DSM has gone through many iterations and changes. For instance, DSM-I and -II contained psychopathy as a mental illness. It was replaced by ASPD in DSM-III. What we term today as “major depressive disorder” was also introduced in DSM-III. Did depression not exist prior to the third DSM? Did ASPD not exist? Does psychopathy not exist now that it has been replaced by ASPD?

Thirdly, there’s so much bloody overlap in conditions listed in the DSM that you could present two psychiatrists with the same list of symptoms and they would diagnose two different disorders. And to my mind, this lends more credence to the first DSM’s principle classifications of psychotic, neurotic, and behavioural disorders.

To summarize, the DSM is regional and therefore cannot be applied globally. It describes medical conditions and those medical conditions can be redefined at any time. And it is borderline unreliable due to diagnostic confusion and overspecification. In short, the presence or lack thereof of some cluster of symptoms in the DSM is not an indicator of the existence of a condition.

MindTraveller ,

The DSM removed it because it was fake. Early psychologists believed in it, and over time they were proven wrong, so the official materials were revised.

hellofriend ,

Ah, so you’re just a troll account, then. Very well, carry on.

Ragnarok314159 ,

Are you legitimately stupid? Do you not understand what the commonly accepted definition is for psychopath?

I suggest you figure it out before spouting Reddit level drivel.

MindTraveller ,

Actually, tribal humans tend to support people with disabilities, even severe ones. It’s only feudal and capitalist societies that treat disabled people with cruelty. It isn’t natural.

intensely_human ,

something we don’t need to do today, but the right wing narrative insists that need to do

People keep saying this, but I really don’t see right wingers arguing for outcasting people.

Donjuanme ,

I’m sorry, you don’t see phobias in the right wing?

It’s proven right wing individuals have more active fear trigger regions of the brain.

Building a wall and shutting down the border, letting people die of dehydration in the desert, are policies from the left wing?

Entropy , in Uncanny Valley

The humanoids we evolved from were at one point, not the only humanoids around. We coexisted with other, different species (neanderthals being an example). Homosapien is just the one that survived.

hondaguy97386 ,

This guy knows.

unexposedhazard ,

Yeah this is just leftover racism from a time when racism had a reason to exist.

AnarchistArtificer ,

I mean, racism has as much reason to exist now as it ever did. “I’ll protect me and what’s mine” has been the dividing line between species for thousands of years, and we have to choose whether we’ll continue it. A “Kill or be killed” mindset might keep you safe, but you’ll never know if the person you killed did indeed mean you harm, or if you could’ve instead lived without killing, and broke bread with a rival. The logic still applies

damnthefilibuster , in Uncanny Valley

Drugs my friends. Drugs.

areyouevenreal ,

Huh?

LazaroFilm , in Uncanny Valley
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Yep and they were called Neanderthals.

CobblerScholar ,

But Homo Sapiens readily breeded with not only the Neanderthals but the Denisovans as well

Imgonnatrythis ,

Some of them did. We all know a few people that would go ahead and fuck what the rest of us would be scared to go near. Those genes survived too.

Shard ,

If those genes didn’t exist, you can be pretty sure that lineage would be less likely to survive.

EndOfLine , in Uncanny Valley
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bjoern_tantau , in Uncanny Valley
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It’s called “corpse”. Often riddled with diseases.

MissJinx ,
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maybe hairless chimps too. Those things are crazy

drolex ,

They will rip your dick out, Jamie send that video of jacked hairless chimps

MissJinx ,
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Your dick, your face… they’ll pretty much, as we say in my corner of the world, “Fuck your shit up”

Ragnarok314159 ,

Now, imagine the violence early human bought upon early chimps to become the dominant species but also make them shy away from us.

alcoholicorn ,

There’s a difference between a few humans throwing some rocks at something’s head and poking it with a sharp stick and what chimps do.

Ragnarok314159 ,

I think you missed the proverbial point. We likely slaughtered the chimps and put their heads on pikes. Chimps have nothing on the violence humans are capable of inflicting.

alcoholicorn ,

In scale? Yes. In brutality? Go look up chimp attacks.

feedum_sneedson ,

BUFFALKILL

alcoholicorn ,

Yeah the context is that many indigenous people depended on the buffalo for food.

It was basically the same as when Israel pours concrete down wells and burns olive groves that took centuries to get that productive. They knew for every buffalo they killed, an indian would starve.

That image is similar to the rooms full of luggage in Auschwitz in what it represents.

ours ,

Chimps kicked our weak asses off the trees. They should regret how that turned out for them.

School_Lunch ,

I remember a documentary about a famous northwest passage expedition that was never seen again. One of the inuit people they talked to during an investigation claimed they found a boat, and in the captain’s quarters they found a body in the bed with a big smile on its face. That would be absolutely terrifying, but apparently that’s what naturally happens to corpses when their lips and gums receed.

Kosta554 ,

Damn, now i want to know!

OldManBOMBIN ,

sfl

Caboose12000 ,

You’ve just ruined my night. I screamed. My phone was like an inch from my face and I was all tucked into bed. That triggered something primaly unsettling for me. Thank you

OldManBOMBIN ,

You’re welcome.

Caboose12000 ,

I trusted you

OldManBOMBIN ,

You were the best Blue.

Shard ,

Franklin’s last expedition

FrostyCaveman ,

At least he died happy

Classy ,

“Oh for just one time, I would take the Northwest Passage…”

Grandwolf319 ,

Damn, got to listen to it now…

DevCat ,
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It also covers those who are not biologically fit to be mates. Various conditions can appear as physical traits.

Amanuet ,

You’re right though, as soon as someone dies, there’s something not right at all about how they look. They don’t look asleep, they look uncanny valley.

Dippy ,

Or perhaps whatever animal killed your friend is still nearby. Maybe it’s still hungry, or maybe it feels it’s territory is still underappreciated.

Baizey ,

Its territory is underappreciated?

Dippy ,

Yeah, some asshole walks through your territory, doesn’t seem like it’s being appreciated that the territory is yours

intensely_human ,

There might be a monster with hurt fee fees in the bushes

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