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TokyoMonsterTrucker , in im not anti-science im pro diversity of ideas

The moron who made this meme did it on a computer that requires literally thousands of innovations that are a direct, replicable product of the scientific method. It is the most powerful philosophical system on the planet, despite its sloppiest practitioners, and it doesn’t require the belief of fucking idiots to work.

ryathal ,

Computers are feats of engineering, which is related but distinct from science and the scientific method. Vastly overstating what the scientific method is for isn’t helpful.

TokyoMonsterTrucker ,

Ah, yes, I was waiting for you, Well Ackshually It’s Engineering Man.

Nothing else. Nice to see you again.

ryathal ,

Is the dean of engineering at Boston University also a well Ackshuslly guy?

www.bu.edu/eng/…/engineering-is-not-science/

TokyoMonsterTrucker ,

I dunno man, I’m going to have to check in with the aliens and JFK Jr. on Telegram. Let’s just wait for another Q-drop to lead the way. It’s been a while since the last one, I’m hoping Fauci hasn’t slurped Ron’s brains out through his eye sockets.

CosmicSploogeDrizzle ,
@CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world avatar

Engineering is a branch of Science. Specifically, Engineering is applied science. For example, scientists discovered that microwaves existed. Engineers made them heat up your food. How did we make safer and better microwaves appliances? Engineers applied the scientific method and iterated on the design and performed tests.

To say engineering is separate from the science is incorrect.

Count042 , (edited )

It was actually a scientist who made the first microwave.

They were doing experiments with hamsters with cryogenics, and warming up the frozen hamsters with hot paddles. It didn’t work that well, and the scientist felt bad for the hamsters.

So, he built the first microwave to warm the hamsters more evenly and ‘humanely’.

That’s right. The first thing cooked in a microwave was literally a hamster.

EDIT:

First Desktop microwave that matches what we consider a microwave today, I should have said. My apologies.

References:

A Smith, J Lovelock, A Parkes, 1954: Resuscitation of Hamsters after Supercooling or Partial Crystallization at Body Temperatures Below 0° C… Nature 173, 1136–1137

R K Andjus, J E Lovelock, 1955: Reanimation of rats from body temperatures between 0 and 1° C by microwave diathermy. The Journal of Physiology, 128.

Lovelock, J E, Smith A U, 1959, Heat transfer from and to animals in experimental hypothermia and freezing. Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, 80: 487-499.

CosmicSploogeDrizzle ,
@CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world avatar

The sources on wikipedia say it was Percy Spencer, an American self-taught engineer. He noticed a Mr. Goodbar candy bar he had in his pocket started to melt from microwaves from an active radar set he was working on. The first food deliberately cooked was popcorn, and the second was an egg, which exploded.

Here are the direct sources: web.archive.org/web/…/history.htmlwww.youtube.com/watch?v=4h1ESUz2H3E

If you have a link to the hamster experiment I would love to read more. I might dive into a microwave research hole today! lol

Count042 ,

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tdiKTSdE9Y

Video has links to references and actual interview with the scientist.

It wasn’t sold or marketed, but it was a microwave.

CosmicSploogeDrizzle ,
@CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world avatar

Very cool! I’ll check it out! Thanks

ryathal ,

Engineering and science are separate though. They may share many characteristics and share knowledge between them, but the focus and results are fundamentally different.

Engineering is quite different from science. Scientists try to understand nature. Engineers try to make things that do not exist in nature.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering#Science

ElPussyKangaroo ,

Engineering is applied science. It’s literally an entire community of people who volunteered to test Science. And then apply it.

And everything that came out of it is evidence that science works.

ryathal ,

Except that’s not actually how it worked. We didn’t always have solid scientific models before things happened. Bicycles are the more famous example of something that existed for years before science could explain why it works, it’s still not perfectly explained. Flight is also somewhat week in the scientific model for lift, but we can still make planes.

While there have been instances where scientists have theorized/discovered X is possible and then a way to do X was built, it’s not required.

conneru64 ,

Hypothesis: adding this part or doing that thing will make it do what I want.

Experiment: do that change and see if it does the thing you want.

If it doesn’t do what you want, go back to hypothesis step. If that’s not science, idk what is.

ryathal ,

You don’t know what is. Science isn’t do something and see if it works, it’s about explaining why something works. Scientific experiments only disprove a hypothesis or can’t disprove. Eventually a collection of results can be evidence of proof, but it’s not actually proof.

You’re more in engineering of wanting to do a thing and finding a way to accomplish that thing based on the current understanding of the relative science.

conneru64 ,

I literally just described the scientific method. Sure, it’s not the kind of question most scientists would ask, but it’s the same scientific method.

ElPussyKangaroo ,

Just because the theoretical was finalized after the practical, doesn’t mean that it isn’t applied science.

We made wheels. We didn’t know why it made sense for them to be circular, but we knew it was easier to load them.

Later on, we learnt about catenary tracks and how circular wheels are great for reducing friction by reducing the contact surface area, as well as the fact that rolling is easier compared to pushing or pulling.

All of these are things that we instinctually understood but didn’t know how to explain.

This was, is and will be how science works. You see something happen, and you try to understand the how and why.

All of theoretical science comes from experimentation, which means on some level, you will require engineering. Similarly, all of engineering comes from the gradual process of perfecting how things works (or can work), which is science.

zloubida ,
@zloubida@lemmy.world avatar

The scientific method is wonderful, but to call it a philosophical system is a misunderstanding on what philosophy and/or science is/are.

TokyoMonsterTrucker ,

It seems likely that you have never studied either if that’s your belief.

zloubida ,
@zloubida@lemmy.world avatar

There are other arguments, but if you confuse a method and a system, you clearly don’t know what you’re speaking about.

TokyoMonsterTrucker ,

Science is a hugely important subset of epistemology, the study of how we know things. Let me be blunt: you are profoundly ignorant on the history and philosophy of science. I don’t expect you to thank me, but here is some reading so you can decrease your ignorance: plato.stanford.edu/entries/scientific-method/

zloubida ,
@zloubida@lemmy.world avatar

Your bluntness and link-dumping will not hide the fact that you make no sense. Science is not a subset of epistemology… epistemology, among other subjects, studies the links between science and truth.

gmtom , in It's true.

And then 2 months later, she says the same thing about her new boyfriend Tristan, who is the exact same person.

railsdev , (edited ) in I'm looking for recipes

“Haha killing animals when we don’t need to is so fucking funny” 🥴

lateraltwo ,

Haha rhetorical questions get rhetorical answers haha

Comment105 ,

“Haha vegans taste funny but it helps if you add garlic powder and msg”

railsdev ,

That’s relevant

Lauchs ,

youtu.be/zV5K3v0u1J8?si=L6PwLxpNCz7x_75L

Skip to the 45 second for the relevant bit.

Dadifer , in I'm looking for recipes

They’re like giant dogs.

beckerist ,

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  • SocialMediaSettler ,

    Every time I see this cow picture, I’m always reminded of Pink Floyd.

    ToyDork ,
    @ToyDork@lemmy.ca avatar

    As much as I am sick of vegans being high and mighty and demanding we not eat meat when not eating meat has been scientifically proven to reduce your health due to protein starvation

    I want to cuddle a cow. We shouldn’t have to eat meat, but we do have to because we evolved to require it over 12k years ago and nature is cruel like that. At the very least ungulate livestock deserve the recognition of being alive and having feelings, even if consuming flesh is inevitable.

    Also I will never eat veal or lamb. Seriously, don’t tear a calf from it’s mother if you’re hungry.

    spicysoup ,
    @spicysoup@lemmy.world avatar

    you should show your scientific sources for that claim

    Vidar , (edited )

    12k years ago we learned to farm crops.

    We have been eating meat way longer before that (I believe ~400k years?) but only because we were able to use fire to make it consumable for us (cooking also expanded the availability of plant proteins at the same amount). We aren’t really capable of consuming raw meat very effectively until this day. Especially when looking at our digestive system, we’re still very close to the fruit, nut and bug eating apes.

    That’s not evolution.

    Zacryon ,

    when not eating meat has been scientifically proven to reduce your health due to protein starvation

    You misunderstood the science. Not getting a sufficient intake of nutrients, including proteins, is what’s killing you. You can easily get proteins from plants and plant based foods. Then everything is fine.

    but we do have to because we evolved to require it over 12k years ago and nature is cruel like that […] consuming flesh is inevitable

    No. We didn’t and we don’t. If I am not mistaken, in humanities history we mainly had a plant based diet. The massive increase in meat consumption is a rather modern phenomenon.

    We are omnivores, yes. That means we have a digestive system which is able to process meat as well as plants. But that doesn’t mean we have to use both or a single source. It is possible to get all of your required nutrients from plants and plant based sources.

    DarthFrodo ,

    not eating meat has been scientifically proven to reduce your health due to protein starvation

    Citation needed

    It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.

    pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19562864/

    Trollception ,

    Mmm. Delicious giant dogs

    RaivoKulli ,

    Is dog meat really that tasty?

    lvxferre ,
    @lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

    I never tasted it but people claim that it’s strong-smelling. So perhaps it’s like goat or sheep?

    ceuk , (edited ) in Unpopular Opinion

    Sorry but this is such a bad take.

    Linux is free to install, free to use and most importantly free to learn

    What is the alternative? How many people who are now in great jobs would have been unable to teach themselves the skills they need if IIS or another proprietary technology had won the server market instead.

    Something had to fill the space, would you rather it was a technology that created barriers for people with the fewest advantages in life?

    (Also as others have said, a lot of OSS development is funded by companies. Linux in particular being a great example)

    Gormadt , in I really need GameDevs to stop doing this
    @Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Gotcha games in a nutshell

    “See how easy it is using your gold, did you know we’ll even sell it to you.”

    Stamets OP ,
    @Stamets@startrek.website avatar

    Oh that always sails by me. I’m the idiot who just kept buying lockboxes in Star Trek Online (when I could afford it) because I wanted one specific ship. Granted it’s a pretty ship but still… Fuckin like $100 gone in 5 minutes.

    swab148 ,
    @swab148@startrek.website avatar

    Me when I started trying to be competitive in MTGA

    Stamets OP ,
    @Stamets@startrek.website avatar

    For real. It’s a disease. If I had saved that money a couple years ago I wouldn’t be completely fucked and wouldn’t have my internet being temporarily suspended on Monday. But no. I had to get a set of pretty polygons in a fucking 13 year old video game.

    swab148 ,
    @swab148@startrek.website avatar

    I probably still wouldn’t have the money, but I’d have way more guitar pedals!

    Does this mean that we won’t get any of the famous Stamets memes on Monday?

    Stamets OP ,
    @Stamets@startrek.website avatar

    I’ve got data on my phone, granted not much of a plan, so there will be a few memes but not many. I’ll probably end up disappearing for a few days until I get paid the week after. Yay for monthly paycheques.

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Magic: The Gathering Atlanta?

    swab148 ,
    @swab148@startrek.website avatar

    Arena

    Pfnic ,

    What? How? Why?

    Every time a game makes me feel like I’m required to pay to get anywhere it’s not on my device for much longer. I’m more susceptible to subscriptions though…

    isildun ,

    They wouldn’t make these games if they didn’t work.

    Part of their shtick is to get you to make any purchase at all. Then you might go on to spend hundreds! Or you might quit. But in some sense that’s also good because the plan was never for you to play for free.

    Kichae , in I still don't know how to do mine

    They make it obtuse on purpose, both to prop up the tax return industry, and to make it both possible to create loopholes for the rich to avoid taxes, and make it so that the rest of us can't really benefit from those loopholes.

    It's Byzantine on purpose. They could simplify it any time they wanted to.

    HubertManne ,

    this. one of the forms they send has 4a and 4b or such while the 1040 has you put 4b into 4a on its sheet and 4a into 4b. This is quite obviously intentional.

    nufanman21 , in The rent is too damn high

    I was paying 400 for one bedroom in 2000. Now my apartment is 1800 which is about 60% of my income. The future is bullshit

    xpinchx ,

    Same hat kinda, around year 2000 I was paying $600 for a nice 2BR apartment.

    I’m now paying $1600 for a 1BR in a shitty neighborhood. I make better money now but still.

    Starglasses ,

    Not “but still.”

    It should be “and this is the reward I get for my success? My contributions to my society? Bullshit.”

    xpinchx ,

    Yee we’re all getting fucked but what can we do rent ain’t getting cheaper. Best case is holdout for the next housing market crash or better interest rates.

    I’ll buy a home in the next couple years regardless, it just sucks it took this long. I was making good money from age 28-35, then laid off and making less but I worked my way up again at 37 but that speedbump derailed any long term plans I had.

    jscummy ,

    I’m renewing on my current lease, taking over a 2bd for 2400 after my roommate moved out. 1bd in the same complex is going for 2200 for new renters, and its on the low end for my area. Quite frankly I don’t understand how apartments are finding tenants, does everyone just coincidentally make 150k+?

    NegativeLookBehind , in Yeah seriously ,why ?
    @NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

    “Listen Jesus he’s got 15 years left to pay on his mortgage and at least 10 years of labor we can squeeze out of him. Plus this $110k medical bill to pay. You’re not taking him yet, you son of a bitch”

    Got_Bent ,

    $110k? That’s it? Damn, that’s some good insurance!

    chemical_cutthroat ,
    @chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

    $110k is just the copay.

    tootbrute , in It's just a waste of my time!

    I still think we should try it on musk himself. Those monkeys just didnt have moxie

    lorkano ,

    Considering his recent behavior, I think he already tried it

    The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

    Who could be controlling the chip?

    SomeBoyo ,

    A monkey of course

    Patches ,

    It’s cute you believe that he is actually delivering a product that works.

    He is just torturing animals for his own delusions.

    sexy_peach , in Blocked blocked blocked

    This is an ad. Not speaking as a mod here, I don’t think this post breaks any rules.

    The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

    I just assumed it was fake.

    sexy_peach ,

    It might be, dunno ^^

    Neve8028 ,

    Idk lots of brands are doing this kind of social media marketing these days.

    OurTragicUniverse , in Beauty is on the inside
    @OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social avatar

    Wasps are also pollinators and are just as vital to the ecosystems they live in as bees and other native insects.

    Nerrad ,
    @Nerrad@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ve killed 5 nests in last 30 days. The can be so aggressive.

    MelodiousFunk ,
    @MelodiousFunk@kbin.social avatar

    Humans: "Give wasps a chance!"

    Wasps: "Fuck humans. Fuck them all. Over and over. With your ass spikes. Bonus points if you take out an eye."

    OurTragicUniverse ,
    @OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social avatar

    Wasps: "Fuck humans. Fuck them all.

    I mean, they have a point.

    MajorMajormajormajor ,
    natecox ,
    @natecox@programming.dev avatar

    Wasps don’t give a fuck about you; don’t walk up to their nests and slap them and you’ll be fine. They’re defensive creatures rather than aggressive.

    They also serve as excellent pest control. I tend to just leave them be unless they build a nest near a door that would be problematic.

    Hornets, on the other hand, are indeed aggressive and can indeed go fuck themselves.

    Spliffman1 ,
    @Spliffman1@lemmy.world avatar

    A kamikaze wasp stung me hard on the tip of my nose once when I got too close to the nest… Didn’t swat it tho. My nose turned pink and swelled up like Bozo’s… I don’t think it ever returned to normal

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Wasps don’t give a fuck about you; don’t walk up to their nests and slap them and you’ll be fine. They’re defensive creatures rather than aggressive.

    You clearly have never encountered a yellowjacket, let alone lived your whole life in a country where yellowjackets are (at least seemingly) 99.999% of all the wasps.

    I can count on one hand, two at most, how many of the times being stung by a yellowjacket was my own fault for bothering it and the total number of times I’ve been stung is hundreds if not thousands.

    miss_brainfart , (edited )
    @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

    Hornets are my bros, they’re super chill here and all they do is hunt wasps.

    No but seriously, no hornet has ever given a fuck about me or my food. And whenever one rocks up, all the wasps are suddenly gone and hiding, it’s hilarious.

    Annoyed_Crabby ,

    Only some wasp is nasty. There’s a huge amount of species of them that’s very important to the ecology, not aggressive, and also am pollinator. Fig wasp, for example, is crucial for pollinate fig and isn’t nasty at all.

    dave ,
    @dave@feddit.uk avatar

    Until they’ve had a drink. A few glasses of that fermented fig juice and they think they’re all Bald Faced Hornets.

    AlpacaChariot ,

    In know your comment isn’t serious but do you know how wasps pollinate figs?

    It’s pretty cool, the fig is actually a load of flowers pointing in towards the middle of what we think of as the “fruit”. Each variety of fig has a specific species of female wasp that burrows in and then lays its eggs inside. The male larvae hatch first, fertilise the female larvae, burrow out and die. The females then hatch, use the burrows to exit and fly off to find a new fig. The female wasps fertilise the figs in this process. Some wasps end up trapped inside the fig and get partially dissolved by an enzyme…

    Some commercial varieties have been bred to fertilise themselves but in the wild the figs don’t ripen without the wasps.

    https://www.foodunfolded.com/article/figs-wasps-how-plant-and-pollinator-work-together

    dave ,
    @dave@feddit.uk avatar

    Yea, and yes :). We had a large old fig tree in SW France. It was fascinating and I swear they did get drunk (but not, in all, honesty that fighty).

    Viking_Hippie ,

    On behalf of spheksophobes everywhere, thank you for your heroic efforts! 🫡

    ActualBobCat ,
    @ActualBobCat@kbin.social avatar

    Plus, I believe the vast majority of wasps are solitary and non-swarming (someone can probably fact check me on this), and thus not as aggressive as the species people typically think about which are just trying to protect their nest. I have plenty of wasps around my yard and I've never been stung by a single one.

    Viking_Hippie ,

    I believe the vast majority of wasps are solitary and non-swarming (someone can probably fact check me on this), and thus not as aggressive as the species people typically think about

    Varies a LOT depending on geographical location. As far as I’ve gathered, almost all of the wasps in the American Pacific Northwest are the totally chill kind, whereas here in Denmark, 99.999% are the flying terrorists known as yellowjackets.

    ijeff , in Birds are cool.
    @ijeff@lemdro.id avatar

    Relatable. Birds are suddenly really interesting in your 30s.

    Spliffman1 ,
    @Spliffman1@lemdro.id avatar

    I’m in my sixties and still don’t care about birds. Conversely, I’ve started to really enjoy killing rats though

    sederx ,

    Lol the fuck is wrong with you

    a_lemmy_user ,

    They probably went crazy from an intense rat infestation. That’s probably hard.

    Spliffman1 ,
    @Spliffman1@lemmy.world avatar

    Fuckers were biting through our kitchen screens and raiding our avocados

    zikk_transport2 ,

    Well, that’s a hobby. Can’t blame you for that.

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    AdmiralShat , in Vice City was my favorite one

    Clear channel ruined radio

    FYI they rebranded into iHeartRadio.

    The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

    Radio must have been one of the first modern things to go through the “enshitification” process.

    pimeys ,

    Yep. Endless focus groups to rate which songs to play. Extremely small playlists and the hosts are so annoying you want to punch them. Thank god for the internet and endless amounts of music, I never need to listen to radio anymore.

    There used to be good stations, with hosts choosing the music they want to play and having a good taste – even better if it’s different from mine so I can hear something new.

    All gone now…

    Rolder ,

    I have this one station I like to listen to that plays a variety of stuff from local artists and the like. Very few ads too, though they occasionally go into “soliciting for memberships” mode now and then.

    SomeAmateur , (edited )

    The one I know and love is The Summit FM in Akron Ohio. I listen to it on Radio Garden or on actual radio when I’m in the area

    There’s so many good songs out there across genres. It’s a shame only a few give them airtime

    Rolder ,

    Hah! The Summit in Akron was the EXACT station I was referring to!

    SomeAmateur ,

    Hell yeah! Those guys do it right, I hope more follow suit

    altima_neo ,
    @altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

    Nothing but maroon 5 and imagine dragons from here on out.

    can ,

    Of course they did. They took over everything in Canada too.

    affiliate ,

    sucks that they own pretty much every radio station. they’re now creeping into podcasts as well

    erogenouswarzone , in Be there for your ladies
    @erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml avatar

    While we’re on the topic. Everybody needs to read a book about pleasuring their partners.

    She comes first

    Her guide to going down

    I’m sure you can get more focused content for your particular situation if you looked for it, but don’t assume you know what You’re doing. Read and make the world a better place.

    mycatiskai ,

    The Ultimate Guide to Cunnilingus, is also a good one.

    She comes first, second, third, fourth and fifth if my neck and her heart can take the strain.

    TheFriendlyArtificer ,

    Damn my spelling!

    I’ve been trying to satisfy my spouse by learning stealthy puns in Proto-Indo European. So now I’m a cunning linguist.

    Touching_Grass ,

    Fuck her

    NuMetalAlchemist ,

    Ideally, yes.

    socsa ,

    But you don’t always have to fuck her hard

    Brickhead92 ,

    In fact, sometimes that’s not right to do.

    bluefishcanteen ,

    Sometimes you want to maaake some looove

    7heo , (edited )

    And fucking give her some smooches too…

    Noodle07 ,

    Right in the pussy

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Gross

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