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Tb0n3 , in disgusting....

When the boss has 30,000 HP and you have 1000 it’s a bit of an issue.

Kecessa ,

And then they join your party and they’re just average… Looking at your Magus…

Sheeple ,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

Surprisingly Magus stats are already trash as a boss. He’s generally regarded as one of the easier bosses for that reason.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar
gonzo0815 ,

Maybe you crippled them. Think about that.

Seraph , in Now what?
@Seraph@kbin.social avatar

Did you know they were supposed to be basically human CPUs, not batteries, but they assumed the audience wouldn't understand? Stupidest choice ever.

scytale ,

Huh I actually didn’t know that. Thanks for the trivia.

Ertebolle ,

It's like in Good Will Hunting when Matt Damon tells Robin Williams he thinks he's one step from cutting his ear off and Williams responds by asking if he should move to the south of France and change his name to Vincent, because obviously most moviegoers are too dumb to get the original joke.

HKPiax ,
@HKPiax@lemmy.world avatar

What was the original joke?

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar
SpaceNoodle ,

Hahahahaha

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

Agreed

dustyData ,

I love the way she pronounces Van Gogh.

SolarNialamide ,

She’s Dutch, so she can and does pronounce it the correct way.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

This fixes that weird plot hole. Thank you!

My new headcanon is that Morpheus just sucked at explaining it to Neo.

eestileib ,

I’m enough of a nerd that when they said they were using us for power, I checked out of the story completely. “Oh, they’re morons, no need to pay attention to the dialog…”

After Philip K Dick, the Matrix movie is like Candyland.

Let me focus more completely on analyzing what movies they were stealing the shot compositions from.

Gigan ,
@Gigan@lemmy.world avatar

That makes way more sense

notaviking ,

The battery part was durring exposition, that is where you explain weird concepts! Then why also continue with that shit excuse in the latest fucking movie. They had the chance in no. 4, they basically had a blank canvas, explain the retcon in one of the many scenes they had to explain strawberries. No they made their choice, back in the first movie, and they kept doubling down. Batteries, even though it makes no fucking sense, they made their bed. PS love the Wachowskis, I still appreciate all they have done to entertain us

rynzcycle ,

Even Speed Racer?

(I actually do like it)

MaKraMc ,

Oh my god this makes so much more sense

beteljuice ,

My headcanon is that The Real has a different set of physical laws than our current reality, and humans naturally generate some sort of biomorphic field that can be stored and used to power things. It would explain why Neo was able to stop enemies with his mind there. Another option is that it’s just another layer of the simulation, and the architect did a poor job at writing the narrative.

MargotRobbie , in Jim "Scumbag" Farley

Looks like we found one job that should be automated by AI to save Ford 21 million dollars a year.

Snipe_AT , (edited )
@Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev avatar

lol careful. you thought a CEO was heartless, just wait until we put an AI in charge with the ‘goal’ set as profit.

jasondj ,

Actually, if you can program it to take inputs of anonymized employee satisfaction surveys, and objective employee satisfaction data (attrition, absenteeism, etc), it could work.

Especially if the AI’s target goals are public information. Nobody would work for a company that set the “employee happiness” and “corporate ethics” dials to 0 and the “improve net profit” dial to 100.

Dentzy ,

Not only that, it has been proven again and again that treating well workers actually yields positive results, considering the IA would have the best for the Company as a goal instead of the pure greed of current CEO/Stakeholders, there are big chances that IA CEO would treat workers way better than current status.

The problem is if the IA goal is not the best for the Company, but the best for the Stakeholders short term, then we would be fucked 😅

SirQuackTheDuck ,

Yeah, it might actually promote unionising since it calculated out the sustainability of its corporate existence

riodoro1 , in I'm looking for recipes

Hehe, we like meat so much that we’re going to ignore the fact that it destroys the environment and continue farming and eating it like there is still a billion of us on this planet. Also, the prices must be low but i don’t care that living beings are raised in hellish conditions for our convenience. We made it illegal to record those conditions so we don’t have to look at them. Meat delicious, I deserve it three meals a day because look at my prosperity.

finnie ,

Yeah. It’s the usual nonsense habits of people that they will defend to their dying breath

riodoro1 ,

Thats what you get when you base your personality on what you eat.

HikingVet ,

You would think mutton would be more popular…

GreatGrapeApe ,

It kills me how often I see people claim that it is the corporations that are driving climate change and that individuals can do nothing when going plant based would make a huge difference.

player2 ,

For anyone interested, here is a relevant documentary about how Earth is experiencing a sixth mass extinction event because of our actions like you mentioned.

youtu.be/6TqhcZsxrPA?si=GvgvuvKJmKO0X3zd

teuniac_ ,

I know it’s a cliché, but say this on Reddit and you’ll be downvoted into oblivion. Tried it many times. Criticize meat and seemingly reasonable people suddenly start making the same circular arguments they usually mock.

Teppichbrand ,

AKA the Bullshit Bingo!

Lauchs ,

People consider themselves good people and don’t like thinking about the consequences of their actions.

Same happens when you point out that children lose their limbs for our smartphones. People aren’t going to stop using their smartphones, aren’t going to consider themselves bad people, and so will rationalize however they can.

MonsiuerPatEBrown , in If it starts moving then forget it

haptic doom

The human finger can discriminate between surfaces patterned with ridges as small as 13 nanometers in amplitude and non-patterned surfaces, surface chemistry Professor Mark Rutland said. “This means that, if your finger was the size of the Earth, you could feel the difference between houses [and] cars,” Rutland said.

vale ,

Jokes on him, I can already tell the difference between a house and a car

Viking_Hippie ,

Houses are the ones with doors and glass on some of the outside, right?

radioactiveradio ,

No, those are cars, you’re thinking about the ones with A/C and mirrors.

objectionist ,
@objectionist@lemmy.world avatar

that website fuckin sucks

but yes very cool

crossal ,
@crossal@lemmy.world avatar

Why’s that?

objectionist ,
@objectionist@lemmy.world avatar

when you try to back into the previous tab it redirects to the websites main page, which is also filled with clickbait ads and garbage

Wogi ,

In practice I find that anything smaller than .0001 inches can’t really be felt, and the difference between .0001 and .0002 is indiscernible.

13 nanometers is closer to .0000005 inches.

Suede: the little wrench goblin that lives inside my precision c clamp.

MonsiuerPatEBrown ,

most of that is what she said

Sharpiemarker ,

Micro-burn

Viking_Hippie ,

Burnette, if you will.

Sharpiemarker ,

I’ll allow it

Flumsy ,

But you can feel that the texture is somehow different.

Eufalconimorph ,

It’s not that you can feel individual features, but rather that a repeating pattern of that size can be distinguished from a smoother surface.

Zerush ,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes, right, but not on a screen.

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Yet numerous people can’t find the clitoris. It’s baffling.

dylanmorgan , in Parasitic

Except I don’t have to go to a concert. If I don’t have shelter I’m pretty fucked.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Yup! Both are leeches on society, but one is sucking from the jugular and the other is sucking from an extremity. That being said they are both sucking the same blood.

Tb0n3 ,

Then why don’t you buy your own fucking house if it’s so easy.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Umm cause I lack generational wealth? I’m in my 30’s and almost every person I know that owns a home has done so with the help of their daddy or mommy’s money. 🥱

LegionEris ,

See, this is what gives scalpers the moral edge over landlords to me. Scalpers are largely working class people using money they earned to do something arguably unethical. Is it kinda lame? Are they losers? Yeah, and again it’s arguably unethical. But are they complicit enforcers of generational wealth and power divides? Are they, as a group, one of the primary forces siphoning wealth and power from the poor and working class to those who already have wealth and power? Nah. They’re just uncreative opportunists. Scalpers create a gulf of immorality between you and recreation to their own benefit, not between you and necessity to the detriment of society at large. So yeah, scalpers>landlords in my estimation.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Was just drawing parallels, i wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment that scalpers arent anywhere near as bad as landlords in the grand scheme of Capitalistic exploitation. Its just a great analogy of how you can most of the time turn a safe profit if you have the cash to flip a commodity. The issue is housing shouldnt be treated as a commodity.

irmoz ,

…who said it was easy?

Droggelbecher ,

Because scalping drives prices up? Pretty straight forward

ShranTheWaterPoloFan ,

It is easy, if you can get a mortgage.

I currently pay less than $2k a month on my mortgage. A 1 bedroom apartment near me is about $1.8-2.5k and a 2 bedroom is $2.5-3.5k a month. People aren’t lazy and not buying houses because it’s so fun to live in an apartment, they are doing it because they can’t get a loan.

The only difficult thing about buying a house is the hours of paperwork and surprise costs that make no sense.

Licherally ,

And if you own a house that is being flooded, just sell the flooded house and move you fucking idiot.

Forbo ,
@Forbo@lemmy.ml avatar

“Sell their houses to who, Ben?? Fucking Aquaman?!”

Comment105 ,

I really have no empathy for the scalper problem.

Don’t go to the concert.

If anything the artists could charge more, seeing as some people will already pay scalper price. They’re doing they’re audience a favor by charging so much less than they’re willing to pay.

irmoz ,

The argument isn’t meant to make scalpers seem worse, it’s to demonstrate how illogical it is to treat houses the same way as tickets

Comment105 ,

Scalpers aren’t even bad.

Just having some self-control and refusing to buy at what you see as an unreasonable price would make their entire business model invalid.

If someone is willing to pay $3,000 for a Taylor Swift ticket, or $1,000 or more for an early PS5, that’s what they’re worth.

BB69 ,

Then buy a home in a lower cost of living area. There’s government grants to assist with down payments and closing costs.

My first house, that I bought about 5 years ago before you start calling me a boomer, was a HUD foreclosure. I was only required to do 100 dollars as a downpayment.

Duranie ,

Buying in a lower cost of living area is easier when you don’t have to consider things like school districts for children, availability of public transportation to get to work, or even safe walkable areas to get groceries.

BB69 ,

Yes, it turns out that high demand for real estate in certain areas leads to higher prices because of a finite supply.

You might have to look at different areas and consider the differences. I’d love to live in a penthouse downtown, but I’ll settle for my 1600 sq foot home in the suburbs.

Duranie ,

“You might have to look at different areas and consider the differences.”

Always, but there are certain factors that aren’t so pliable. Getting a loan based on your income at a stable job means that you need to live within a reasonable area to continue to access that job. Six years ago when I was looking for a house I could have moved to a lower cost of living area, but that would have meant a 90 minute commute or changing jobs (at which time would have been an irresponsibly risky move.) Another factor was the question of changing school districts, and custody arrangements with the kids father. I wasn’t, but I know some who are restricted by custody agreements where they are required to live in certain districts or within X number of miles of the other parent. People in those situations don’t get to shop around and find other areas to live.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

People who buy a house today are quite literally paying double for the same house that they would have 5 years ago due to the federal reserve increasing the interests rates to ‘fight inflation’ same selling price for thr house accounted for they are paying double the mortgage because of the increased rates.

BB69 ,

Mortgage rates have returned to an average range. Still lower than they were in the 90s.

Your payment isn’t doubled because of rates, it’s because of high demand areas.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Thats untrue, it isnt because of the demand (News flash there is always demand for housing) it is because of the increase in the intrest rate of the loan. Monetary policy trying to reign in inflation that isn’t actually inflation, but corporations taking profits at exorbitant levels while the average citizens can barely make ends meet.

BB69 ,

Man, I’m a loan officer at a bank. I know a lot more about this than what you do. Interest rate increases are squeezing all levels to decrease spending across the board. Banks are beginning to cut back lending to businesses.

And demand for housing ebbs and flows. Things skyrocketed during Covid because of a lack of supply. There’s actually been decreases in pricing at this point.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

You must be a few crayons short of a full box, you just admitted prices are decreasing, yet folks who buy a house today will effectively pay almost double on their monthly mortgage rate because of the increasing interest rates, which have nothing to do with housing demand and everything to do with fighting inflation, which was caused by keeping the rates at effectively zero to prop up Obama’s bull economy that 45 ran into the ground.

BB69 ,

A few thousand dollars of decrease doesn’t offset the doubling of prices that happened during Covid. You should consider asking for specifics instead of trying to do a witty insult.

Rates weren’t effectively zero prior to Covid. They were too low, yes, and should have been higher, but the bottom fell out during Covid.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/3518e287-ca23-4ec6-82b8-e706babb8da7.jpeg pretty damn close to zero for a decade precovid my guy …

AlDente ,

Lol, does that look like the norm in the graph you posted?

Empricorn ,

There it is. What a dumb argument the post has. It’s like people who get mad at people complaining about skyrocketing food prices. We all have to eat! Greedy corporations are just exploiting that…

RQG , in They don't have such weaknesses
@RQG@lemmy.world avatar

I always found the rules about public drinking in the US to be more strange than the drinking age.

UnverifiedAPK ,

Depends on the area, there are some where it’s legal to drink outside as long as it’s from a local business

RQG ,
@RQG@lemmy.world avatar

Which means there are areas where you can’t even sit outside a Cafe or bar and have a beer. This seems so strange.

UnverifiedAPK ,

You misunderstand you can drink at a cafe/bar’s outdoor patio anywhere in the US.

The places I was talking about in my original comment are called DORA - “Designated Outdoor Drinking Area” and usually span the whole downtown of a city. Those have cheap, but reusable plastic cups that you can get refilled at any business downtown.

Really great for festivals where you just pop in for a refill and head back out to keep watching a stage show or whatever. It cuts down on waste over cans/bottles too.

RQG ,
@RQG@lemmy.world avatar

Ah alright that makes a lot more sense. As I said that seemed strange. Thanks for clarifying! I love learning about different cultures and laws.

BanjoShepard , in Ghostbusters

The irony of this sign being photographed on a cellphone while driving takes this to the next level.

Spliffman1 ,
@Spliffman1@lemdro.id avatar

Could not the passenger be taking the picture? Not the driver?

Kushia OP ,
@Kushia@lemmy.ml avatar

Maybe, though it is funny to think this caused the driver to take this thus use their phone.

idunnololz ,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

It could be a passenger

Spliffman1 ,
@Spliffman1@lemdro.id avatar

Great minds

VikingHippie ,

Yeah, the angle would seem to indicate that, unless it’s a British car…

Kidplayer_666 ,

Wraong side of the highway

VikingHippie ,

Unless it’s a British car in another country

mustardman , (edited )

Unethical tip so you don’t get blasted on social media: Hold your phone out so it looks like it was taken by a passenger.

Clent ,

At this point with everyone wanting to go viral, it is going to increase phones usage.

The people approving these messages are morons.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime , in Happy Labour Day to people who are not landlords.

I know landlords that work way fucking harder than I do, and I have a “real job”. I get that a lot of landlords are assholes but in the end this is the system and some are playing the game as fairly as they can (being reasonable, very rarely raising rent, attending to maintenance themselves and in a timely manner) while others are cheating (not maintaining the property, raising rent, forcing tenants to sign burdensome leases, etc). Stop lumping them together.

greywolf0x1 ,

Apart from your real job and defending landlords, what else are you doing to help get rid of the sham system?

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime ,

What the fuck is this. I could make all sorts of stupid assumptions about you too, you’re honestly not worth it

PM_ME_FEET_PICS ,

Lemmy.ml user. They are an ass backward echo chamber.

Jax ,

Yo you’ve done a really good job at staying away from hexbear posts on your alt account. I’ve only seen one, impressive!

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime ,

What do you mean by this? How are you tracking this user’s alt accounts?

CorruptBuddha ,

What’s the point of replacing one sham system with another?

phoenixz ,

You do understand that not all landlords are the same? Even if 50% are assholes you’re still lapping the other half in there whilst they’re not doing much wrong

rjs001 ,
@rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

It’s not playing fairly. They are scammers and Mao was right about how we handle them

phoenixz ,

I’ve found that on many Lemmy instances we got way too many people who find it much easier to just say all are assholes, there are NO exceptions!

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime ,

Yeah I agree. Painting with a broad brush is something we all do, but my god people have some self awareness once in a while.

qyron , (edited ) in Keep on truckin’

What if - and this is a BIG if - this person was actually telling the truth?

Let’s imagine that JC Sandals decided it was time to come back to Earth and take a look around. No intervention, no preaching, no nothing. Just sight seeing and talking to random people.

So JC is somewhere in the US (it is a predominently christian country), travelling the land, hitch hiking to get to places.

Then one day this person just sees this figure walking along the side of the road - long hair, big fuzzy beard, sun bleached Converse All Stars, ratty jeans, a loose t-shirt (perhaps an old, baggy one, with the Master of Puppets stampet on the front) and lets add a beat up military style jacket and a scuffed backpack to finish the look.

So we have our trucker see this figure and outn of nothing he decides to stop and give him a lift. They go through the motions - "hey, wanna a lift? where are ya headin’? / “that would be nice” “I don’t really care, I’m just going about for myself” - JC hops onto the big rig and off they go.

After the initial uncomfortable minutes they eventually strike up a conversation, just small talk at first - where they have been, where they are going, the road - and at some point our trucker just lets out he feels alone when doing those long hauls but the good book always gives him strenght to carry on and protects him and helps him go back home safely. And he’s sincere in his words. JC just listens and nods.

At some point, JC questions our beloved trucker what is his favorite passage or verse on the whole book and our friend happily replies and there is true engagement in the conversation. JC shares some insights and remarks our trucker never considered about the book, some perhaps absolutely against his beliefs, which somewhat aggravates our pour soul trucker. Untill at some point he just can’t stand it anymore and falls silent. He wants, needs, to get rid of this strange hitch hiker, and his strange demeanor.

So our trucker announces he’s going to stop to refuel and if that destination is good for his passenger. And JC replies it’s just fine. And then of the blue, JC stares at our poor trucker and says.

“I can see your a good man, so I’m going to take care of that for you.”

And our trucker miraculously sees the fuel gauge pump up. Now he’s scared. There is something with this man. His throat closes, his heart races.

“Can you pull up here, please? Right here.”

And our trucker watches as his hands steer the truck to the side of the road, pulls up and puts it into neutral. JC thanks the poor man, about to crap his pants, opens the door and he is just about to get off the truck:

“You have your bible on hand? Nevermind that, I’ll give you mine.”

Then out of his side pocket, JC pulls out THE BOOK, this huge full size copy, smiles at the trucker, pulls the cover to the side, signs it, as we see on the picture, with the dedication and throws it onto the passenger seat.

“Nobody will ever believe you.”

JC lets out a laugh and throws the door shut.

And nobody believes.

dan1101 ,

That’s the most likely scenario.

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

If millions of people could believe Jesus came back as a grilled cheese sandwich, I don’t see why he couldn’t come back as a hitchhiker chillin with random truck drivers.

fushuan ,

Or, you know, someone called Jesus signed it. There’s a bunch.

db2 ,

His name is actually Zeus, but like Samuel Jackson’s character everyone keeps saying “hey Zeus”.

statues_lasers ,

I can’t believe how good this comment is.

qyron ,

Thank you!

Baku ,

I’m not religious, but this comment actually seems like an interesting premise for a book or something. I’d certainly read it

qyron ,

Don’t think I can make it a book but perhaps a short story?

Baku ,

I’d read it

qyron ,

Done. I’ll write it if you review and comment it.

Shelena , in It's the truth

Here it does a great job of reducing a text of 174 words to 172 words. 👍

(I do not want to complain too much. Usually it works and it is short enough for me to quickly read it.)

pimeys ,

Best of all you do not need to click the link, load the website, enable JavaScript because there is nothing without it and then tap the cookie banner away disabling all of the cookies first.

rivvvver ,
@rivvvver@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

i see a future where we no longer access websites directly because websites got so bloated that using a bot to give us the content instead is just way easier

twelvefloatinghands ,
@twelvefloatinghands@lemmy.world avatar

We do that now by skipping to the comments though…

KnightontheSun ,

And also avoiding the possibility of your browser not being supported. What a world.

pimeys ,

A bot that would send us the content as email, which we’d read using Emacs. I can see that happening.

pythonoob ,

RSS to emacs possible?

WldFyre ,

Isn’t that just chatGPT?

r00ty Admin ,
r00ty avatar

And don't get me started on "legitimate interest" cookies. Legitimate to whom?

Perfide ,

Actually you usually need to have Javascript off, 90% of news websites paywalls are just Javascript so turning it off let’s you read the article.

pimeys ,

There are quite a many websites just showing a white page if JavaScript is off…

Sotuanduso ,

Just shortening “Republican US Senator” to “Senator,” nice.

Shelena ,

You actually found it. I was too lazy, bit I still wanted to know. Thanks!

Sotuanduso ,

It was easy enough. Just two clicks and comparing the opening sentences.

empireOfLove , in welcome

Jokes on you. I’m a Machinist and that feature on the drawing has an perpendicularity GD&T callout of ± 1deg. In spec is in spec. Ship it!!!

eatham ,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

It’s 87 degrees

empireOfLove ,

No, no- it’s the design engineer who is clearly wrong.

c_jay ,

Nah I blame the mathematicians

Late2TheParty ,
@Late2TheParty@lemmy.world avatar

I like this positive attitude!

Sharpiemarker ,

Full send

rockSlayer , in Freedom units 💯

For the other Americans that came into the thread hoping to see a conversion:

  • 10c = 50f
  • 30c = 86f

Edit: I’d like to note that 10c is a very reasonable temperature for shorts. I’m a Minnesotan (basically Canada lite (please annex us)), people start raising eyebrows at around 0C

STUPIDVIPGUY ,

its true, legs are immune to cold. shorts and a jacket is a reasonable outfit

MeatsOfRage ,

The quick conversation I use is take off 30 and half the rest to go F to C or double it and add 30 to go C to F.

20C doubled is 40 and add 30. 70F

80F take off 30 is 50. Half that is 25. 25C

It’s not completely accurate but close enough for conversation purposes.

lowleveldata ,

F = C * 1.8 + 32

Just want to leave this here

WarmSoda ,

Oh come on. Now you expect us to learn math too??

TheAndrewBrown ,

And if you want to do the math fast and just get close enough, you can just do “double it and add 30”.

Blastasaurus ,

Yeh 0C was exactly what I thought and then you mentioned it.

Trainguyrom ,

I learned during the polar vortices that when it’s -40 out it’s the same in both Celsius and Fahrenheit

Fosheze ,

0C? Fellow Minnesotan here and I’ve definitely seen plent of people wearing shorts at temps below -5C. But I’m also in a college town so that may change things.

MasterBlaster ,

I once amusedly watched girls sunbathe in bikinis at St. Lawrence University with patches of snow nearby in, I think March.

Conversely, I personally wore shorts and a tee one fine vacation in Florida around Christmas. It was 60f, and everybody was running around in jackets looking like they were in Chicago in January.

rockSlayer ,

Lmao, that brings back memories of going to open gym in high school while wearing basketball shorts in -40 with my winter jacket on

AlligatorBlizzard ,
craftyindividual , in Misunderstood

Un Sung hero?!

Hank ,

Lil Kim Sung about him

craftyindividual ,

I concede defeat.

Fuckfuckmyfuckingass ,
@Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t give up so easily. Your pun was far superior.

Umm something something Kim Jong ill.

VikingHippie ,
squiblet , in Web3 is here and it's glorious
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

but how do I give someone .0045 cents for no apparent reason??

AndreyAsimow ,
@AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t forget the 40 dollar transaction fee

Feddyteddy ,

The only people that think this is correct are ones that learned about crypto 5 years ago and never thought to update their information. The lightning network allows for tiny bitcoin transactions with sub one cent transaction fees. In addition to that, the transactions happen in less than a second.

Kecessa ,

It’s also centralized and just a bandaid over an issue that could have been solved if Bitcoin had stayed true to its original intention, i.e. digital cash, not a fake store of value.

SwingingKoala ,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It’s also centralized

Nothing about lightning is centralized, unless you think bitcoin itself is centralized.

Kecessa ,

reddit.com/…/is_lightning_network_decentralized_w…

Great explanation by someone who isn’t a maximalists. Sorry but yes it is.

SwingingKoala ,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Haha. Fees are high and it’s impossible to open a channel because of that? That’s beyond stupid…

Kecessa ,

No, it’s centered around large nodes, that’s the point they’re making.

Over 50% of the network’s capacity in the hands of 5 entities?

reddit.com/…/over_half_of_all_lightning_network_c…

Shit’s decentralized as fuck yo!

Heck, Bitcoin itself had the majority of its hashrate coming from a dictatorship where the state needs to have a representative in all major companies… One move and the Chinese government had control over the network.

SwingingKoala ,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Nobody is forcing you to use the big nodes. Saying lightning is centralized because of that is like saying bitcoin is centralized because exchanges hold coins.

Kecessa ,

Did you ignore the second part of what I said? 🤔

SwingingKoala ,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Yes, because it is even more wrong. One of the most mobile industries in the world that seeks cheap power concentrates where that cheap power is available. China ban bitcoin, miners moved away. Miners can always simply move somewhere else. That already happened and you don’t even know it.

Kecessa ,

Ok, so you ignored what I said.

China could have seized all mining equipment just by deciding to nationalize the industry instead of banning it, boom, 51%+ of the hashrate in the hands of the Chinese government. What were Bitcoin maximalists saying at the time? Fuck dick, as long as the price goes up, who cares about the tech behind it?

SwingingKoala ,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

could have

Yes, and the sky could fall on our heads.

It didn’t happen, and it can’t happen any more.

What were Bitcoin maximalists saying at the time

They always knew miners are super mobile.

Kecessa ,

“It can’t happen anymore”

Except they Chinese hashrate went back up even though mining is still illegal… Which begs the question… Did the miners really move out of China or did they simply hide the fact that they’re in China?

SwingingKoala ,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

So mining is already illegal and law enforcement can’t even find them, and you think that’s centralization? Hahaha

Kecessa ,

Not what I said 🤷

SwingingKoala ,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

You started this whole thread with mining is centralized

Kecessa ,

I never said law enforcement can’t find them.

Feddyteddy ,

This is like saying Lemmy is centralized because lemmy.world exists. This senseless rambling may work elsewhere, but Lemmy has too many computer literate users for you to gain any traction here.

Kecessa ,

Eh… Lemmy has too many computer literate users for Bitcoin maximalists and crypto to have taken a hold on the place, funny that!

Feddyteddy ,

Alright, I can see now that you are just yelling out things you heard other people say without any idea what they mean. FYI, a bitcoin maximalist is someone who things there is no reason for any other crypto. That is absolutely not what this conversation is about. I don’t think bitcoin is the only useful coin, and I never said anything remotely similar to this. I’m sorry if you lost money gambling or something, but honestly I’m not surprised, clearly you are someone you gets overconfident with small amounts of information. That is possibly what you have to blame for whatever happened to you.

Kecessa ,

♥️

explodicle ,

Everyone who believed this was true lost a lot of money betting on Bitcoin Cash.

Kecessa ,

At least Bitcoin cash stayed true to the goal of Bitcoin. A peer-to-peer electronic cash system.

explodicle ,

That was also untrue. Electronic cash doesn’t imply no/low transaction fees. Basically everything they told you was a lie.

Kecessa ,

Show me where in the whitepaper does it mentions storing value, please.

No/low transaction fees and ease of transaction is the main point of cash vs barter, Bitcoin abandoned that, now you have to go through the trouble of using level 2 to have small fees and quick transactions, what’s the point of Bitcoin then?

explodicle ,

No. I’ve had this exact argument enough times that it was a relief to finally bet on it.

Kecessa ,

Commerce on the Internet has come to rely almost exclusively on financial institutions serving as trusted third parties to process electronic payments. While the system works well enough for most transactions, it still suffers from the inherent weaknesses of the trust based model. Completely non-reversible transactions are not really possible, since financial institutions cannot avoid mediating disputes. **The cost of mediation increases transaction costs, limiting the minimum practical transaction size and cutting off the possibility for small casual transactions**, and there is a broader cost in the loss of ability to make non-reversible payments for non- reversible services.

Right in the introduction to the whitepaper.

Maybe you should start with reading it so you would see where things went wrong.

ZodiacSF1969 ,

Lol I think you upset a bunch of BTC fans just now 🤣

Kecessa ,

I’m used to it 😁

Kecessa ,

Oh and show me people who bought Bitcoin in early 2021 that haven’t lost cash please.

explodicle ,

Cherry picking, look at a log chart

Kecessa ,

So is saying that everyone who bought Bitcoin cash lost money considering today isn’t all time low.

It’s not as if I was here to defend Bitcoin cash, I’m here to point out that Bitcoin and lighting network is flawed though.

explodicle ,

split date != ATH

The rhetoric you’re repeating is straight out of that scam. And you linked to their subreddit.

Kecessa ,

You’re the only one who talked about split date and if we go by that argument, whenever there’s a hard fork the people who were there before will never be losing because they suddenly own both without having purchased one of them.

SwingingKoala ,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Man, why is every one of your comments just wrong?

01.01.2021: 23902

today: 26143

Kecessa ,

Oh sorry if I don’t keep up to date to the daily movement of Bitcoin… I mean, I wouldn’t have because it’s a store of value and the basic principle of a store of value is the ability to use it and be guaranteed to have what you put in or close to it…

SwingingKoala ,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

it’s a store of value

Sigh, you’re wrong again, bitcoin has the potential to be a store of value, it’s not one yet as it keeps going up long term until the market will have found a fair value.

Kecessa ,

Well, if it’s a bad peer-to-peer electronic cash system and it’s not a store of value, what’s the point then? 🙂

Feddyteddy ,

Don’t apologize, just use your time to learn instead of wasting it and everyone else’s by talking about things you don’t care to learn about first.

Kecessa ,

Oh I know how the shit works, I just don’t put blindfolds preventing me from seeing how flawed it is 🙂

Feddyteddy ,

I urge you to copy and paste this conversation into whatever is the best LLM you have access to and then ask it to point out any factual inaccuracies it can(of both you and everyone else in this thread). Then, go ahead and research any of the claims that it makes on your own. If you are curious to possibly learn something new today, then this is a great route to take. If you honesty believe what you are saying then this will be very enlightening. If you are actually just bitter about some bad choices you made and you actually don’t believe what you are saying then of course don’t waste any more of your time doing anything like this. Goodbye.

Kecessa ,

Bad choices I made? Like making hundreds of thousands of USD by exploiting the flaws in crypto? Yeah… Bad choices indeed…

Feddyteddy ,

This is absurd. Anyone who has the slightest idea of how it works knows that it is in no way centralized. It isn’t hard to learn how it works.

TheOneCurly ,
@TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page avatar

As long as you have a channel with that person preconfigured and funded right? Otherwise you need to do an on chain transaction with on chain fees to set up that sub one cent transaction.

Astroturfed ,

Shhhh, don’t point out how there has to be a large pool of the currency sitting in someone’s account and that the person often disappears with it all or spends it. That upsets their narrative. No regulation or oversite is GOOD.

Feddyteddy ,

This is absurd. It is impossible for anyone to disappear with the money, nothing like this has or even can happen. Please post any source even claiming this. I am baffled that it would even cross your mind to even make such an absurd claim. Please post a source.

Astroturfed , (edited )

Here’s the most widely known and published case:

www.google.com/amp/s/fortune.com/crypto/…/amp/

Supposedly she’s dead now but who knows. The current biggest news scam is the FTX shit. That was a crypto exchange. They stole like a billion dollars. Is it better because he didn’t disappear after fleeing to the Bahamas?

This is what I love about you crypto techbros. You just claim everything that doesn’t support your beliefs isn’t real. Please invest all your retirement savings into digital currencies. You’ll show us.

Feddyteddy ,

You misunderstood what was being discussed completely, we were talking about the technical side of the lightning network, not whether or not people kill each other for money. Yes, absolutely people murder each other to take what they want, but believe it or not this happens with every currency in the world and happened even before currency existed. I can’t even imagine what must go through the head of someone to think that murder/theft is something that bitcoin introduced to the world.

Feddyteddy ,

No. I have opened up exactly 1 channel with 1 other person years ago, and it was done automatically when I installed the app. Since then I have been able to send and receive bitcoin to anyone I’ve wanted to instantly and for a miniscule fraction of the amount that I have sent. I am really surprised, I had no idea that so much misinformation was being passed around amongst people who have never even decided to try it themselves or even look into it deeply at all.

original_ish_name ,

Monero transaction fees goes brrrrrrrrrrr

newIdentity , (edited )

It’s less than 10 cents

marv99 ,

GNU Taler. Ah, question was rhetorical :)

smileyhead ,

Really wish Taler to be available for use in the first country.

marv99 ,

Me too, I really like the concept, also have demo-purchased by app with it. Hope it will become usable reality at some point.

smileyhead ,

This could be so awesome for electric scooters or anything tradicionally having coin insert.

cypherpunks ,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

Even if/when GNU Taler launches, somehow I don’t think the VC-backed app scooter companies are going to be adopting anonymous payments anytime soon.

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