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clearedtoland , in Detour

Seen it. Covered it.

🎶 we are Farmers!

ummthatguy ,
@ummthatguy@lemmy.world avatar
can , in Detour

Fish?

ShimmeringKoi , in Crypt force one.
@ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

You have to vote for Genocide Joe to finish off the Palestinians and throw even more asylum seekers into concentration camps and send more missiles to Nazis, otherwise you’re a fascist or something.

ssm ,
@ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Genocide Joe goes so fucking hard. It rolls off the tongue so well, I can’t stop saying it. Genocide Joe. Genocide Joe.

Lemmygradwontallowme ,
@Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net avatar

Jim Crow Joe…?

queermunist ,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

If’t hadn’t been for genocide Joe,
Palestine’d been free long time 'go.
Where’d you come from,
Why won’t you go?
Can y’draw a clock now, genocide Joe?

pezhore ,
@pezhore@lemmy.ml avatar

I mean at least Biden is a slow roll, Trump would rather nuke them.

Ferrous ,

This only logical conclusion to this naive utilitarianism is reaching a point 30 years from now when liberals will be frothing at the mouths in support of the dem candidate who wants 5 genocides as opposed to the republican who wants 10.

There is a legend about a certain species of caterpillar that can only cross the threshold of metamorphosis by seeing its future butterfly. Proletarian subjectivity does not evolve by incremental steps but requires non-linear leaps, especially moral self-recognition through solidarity with the struggle of a distant people, even when this contradicts short-term self-interest, as in the famous cases of Lancashire cotton workers’ enthusiasm for Lincoln and later for Gandhi. Socialism, in other words, requires non-utilitarian actors, whose ultimate motivations and values arise from structures of feeling that others would deem spiritual. Marx rightly scourged romantic humanism in the abstract, but his personal pantheon—Prometheus and Spartacus, Homer, Cervantes, and Shakespeare—affirmed a heroic vision of human possibility that no longer seems to have any purchase in our fallen world.

Mike Davis

roux ,
@roux@hexbear.net avatar

Both side should just compromise and go with 7.5 genocides.

Lemmygradwontallowme ,
@Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net avatar

Ah, yes, I would like to get firebombed than nuked…

Surely, we have no other option…

ShimmeringKoi , (edited )
@ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

If Isreal just wanted every Palestinian dead and nothing else, don’t you think they would have dropped their own nukes on October 8? Zionists have no interest in irradiating the manifest destiny prize they’re currently waging a doomed invasion to take.

ssm , (edited )
@ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

If I was on the receiving end of the genocide, I would rather just have a nuke end my people’s suffering than get slowly meat-grinder’d to death by the IDF; but that’s just me.

Also bonus points for irradiating the fascists in Israel.

Mountain_Mike_420 , in Galaxybrain

I’ll take the downvotes. It’s both obviously. PayPal is dope and still going strong, Tesla single handedly made the electric car viable, spaceX brought reusable rockets a thing and internet connectivity to rural communities (me included).

I used to be a fanboy but now loathe the guy. It’s ok to hate but don’t downplay his contribution to society.

pedz ,

Paypal is not from Musk, and he was eventually ousted when he tried to rebrand it to X.

The company was originally established by Max Levchin, Peter Thiel, and Luke Nosek in December 1998 as Fieldlink, later it was renamed Confinity, a company which developed security software for hand-held devices. When it had no success with that business model, it switched its focus to a digital wallet.

In 2000, Musk had become CEO after the merger of his X.com and Confinity, the venture-backed company co-founded by Peter Thiel that owned the PayPal program that was a more popular money-transfer service than the one offered by Musk. The board ousted Musk as CEO and replaced him with Thiel in September 2000.

Tesla is also not of his own. He pretty much just bought an already working company.

He certainly made it his own over the years, investing early on and then overseeing its growth from niche luxury carmaker to mass production, adding on a solar business, and pushing self-driving technologies. However, the tech titan – and now the world’s richest man – was actually Tesla’s 4th CEO when he took that role in October 2008.

I have no idea about Space X, but Paypal and Tesla are absolutely not from Elon Musk. He just happened to cross roads with those companies and invest his emerald money in those.

If he contributed to those companies, it’s via money, not ideas and intellect.

Tartas1995 ,

SpaceX’s reusable rockets is from SpaceX if I understand it correctly but…

Obviously musk didn’t build the rocket or planned the rocket but that is not the point.

Nasa had plans for reusable rockets but for the longest time, the financial risk of development was higher than the value of reusable rockets. SpaceX didn’t care about the financial risk because they needed thousands of satellites for the most brain dead idea ever, starlink and because Elon is bad with money (Twitter…)

So SpaceX was “successful” because they were crazy enough to run 2 extremely dangerous projects.

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

So SpaceX was “successful”

Also don’t forget government funds

Krause ,
@Krause@lemmygrad.ml avatar

I’ll take the downvotes.

very brave stance, redditor

Mountain_Mike_420 ,

Hey, that’s ex-redditor to you.

pedz ,

I already replied and I’m sorry if seem to insist but I want to add on the subject and myth of “Elon Musk being a genius” and “contributing to society”, and went over the part about internet, and electric cars in general.

I’m glad you can have internet in a rural area, really. However, doing it via a constellation of satellites instead of having a robust ground network is posing certain issues for the future.

The size and scale of the Starlink project concerns astronomers, who fear that the bright, orbiting objects will interfere with observations of the universe, as well as spaceflight safety experts who now see Starlink as the number one source of collision hazard in Earth’s orbit. In addition to that, some scientists worry that the amount of metal that will be burning up in Earth’s atmosphere as old satellites are deorbited could trigger unpredictable changes to the planet’s climate.

In a paper published in May 2021 in the journal Scientific Reports, Canadian researcher Aaron Boley said the aluminum the satellites are made of will produce aluminum oxide, also known as alumina, during burn-up. He warned that alumina is known to cause ozone depletion and could also alter the atmosphere’s ability to reflect heat.

Whole article here

So as much as this could be useful, it’s also polluting the skies at a very rapid rate, and we’re not sure about the future consequences of it. And depending on where you live, fast and reliable internet in rural areas is often the result of other capitalistic companies not deeming those places profitable enough, and poor governmental regulations on internet as an essential service. We shouldn’t have to launch thousands of satellites in the air for this. But because it’s more profitable this way…

As for electric cars. Call me cynical, and anti car, which I am, but I don’t think the goal is to be ecological. Not anymore. Maybe when the company started with their three first CEOs. But it seems clear to me that Musk used the electric part as an ecological argument for greenwashing and selling to people that want to be “green”.

Electric cars are not to save the climate. They are to save the automobile industry. They want to continue to sell cars because it makes a profit. Electric cars are still posing an ecological threat, are still polluting the environment because of particles from the tires, are still killing millions of animals and people every year, and are still wasting vast quantities of space for parking lots, which are often not permeable.

And of course, people in rural areas will need cars, even if I don’t like them. But most people live in cities and Musk seem to be deliberately trying to delay public transit projects by announcing always soon-to-be-revolutionary technology like the Hyper Loop that has ben watered down multiple times to end up as a glorified LED lit electric car tunnel. Or the FSD which is not “full” “self” “driving”.

Again, I don’t like cars, don’t like to drive, and don’t have one. So I once was excited to see how the robotaxi part of things would evolve. But it’s been many many years and it’s obvious that I won’t be going from a city to a rural area soon, using a robotaxi or a self-driving car. I still need a driver’s licence for FSD. And robotaxis that do exist won’t go very far outside a city.

Also, if Musk is all about the environment with Tesla, why is he now trying to court people on the other side of the political spectrum; the side that doesn’t care about this?

Yes, electric cars are part of the solution, but cities need more public transit and micro mobility, not more cars (but electric and self-driving)! I’m sorry to say but it’s a lot of greenwashing, empty promises, and personality cult. The contributions to society are, I think, exaggerated.

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar
Wakmrow ,

He pretty famously was kicked from PayPal because he wanted to name it x.

Rolive , in never turn off uBlock

Don’t forget mailing list nags that are engineered to pop up right when you are reading the third sentence of the article.

Right after the BS cookie popup.

MoonMelon ,

Or I click a link to story about a cat stuck in a tree and it takes me to small, local newspaper I’ve never heard of called “The Sawfly Gazette - serving South Western Maine since 1975!”, then it immediately tells me I’ve hit my “article limit” and must subscribe for $14.95.

FierySpectre ,

Something something Firefox extension: “I don’t care about cookies”

TheObviousSolution , in This is unironically fine

This is fi- notices .webp, flips table

hydroptic OP ,

Why do so many folks dislike webp? I really have no strong feelings towards it one way or the other

SnotFlickerman ,

JPEG-XL is better, for one, if we are talking still images, and for two, webp is just one more instance of Google forcing a preference for their own technology over others.

They refuse to implement JPEG-XL support similar to how they stripped Miracast out of Pixel devices so you can only cast to Chromecast devices unless you root your phone and put on LineageOS, which has brought back Miracast.

Things like webp are Google trying to do an end-run around web standards with the intent of allowing Google, the company, to be the final arbiter of web standards instead of the W3C (World Wide Web Consortium).

People who hate webp are most likely people who hate Google’s quest to dominate the web and be the arbiter of standards.

Scrath ,

I wasn’t even aware of it being a format from google. My personal issue is that some programs and apps I use don’t support webp

hydroptic OP ,

Ah well that’s certainly fair enough, I had no idea it’s a Google-encumbered format.

Not sure I’ve ever “voluntarily” converted something to webp. Many Lemmy instances’ pict-rs setups seem to use it, my home instance sopuli.xyz obviously being one of them, which I guess is a sort of a funny choice considering

miridius ,

JPEG-XL is better

Citation needed

optissima ,

In September 2023, two critical vulnerabilities[108] relating to WebP images were discovered by Apple Security Engineering and Architecture (SEAR) and the Citizen Lab, potentially affecting Google Chrome, Chromium-based browsers and the Google’s libwebp project, among any application implementing libwebp. Among these vulnerabilities, CVE-2023-4863 was an actively exploited vulnerability with a high risk rating of CVSS 8.8. This could lead to an out of bounds/overflow condition in applications using the affected libwebp library, upon exploitation of a maliciously crafted .webp lossless file. This could result in a denial of service (DoS), or worse, enabling malicious remote code execution (RCE). The extensive use of libwebp packages across hundreds of applications, including all categories from web browsers to mobile apps, posed a major patching challenge to mitigate the vulnerability due to the demanding testing requirements before release, highlighting the implications of this vulnerability on a wide scale.

en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WebP

miridius ,

So what, we’re not supposed to use any library that’s ever had a vulnerability? You better go uninstall literally everything on your computer then

gianni ,

It is a modern successor to formats like WebP & JPEG. WebP was barely competitive with JPEG

miridius ,

WebP was barely competitive with JPEG

Citation needed

gianni ,
miridius ,

It’s just the typical Lemmy hivemind hating anything made by a large tech company, purely because it’s made by a large tech company, even when it’s actually really good

jherazob ,
@jherazob@beehaw.org avatar
yuri , in hip dog

wow the porta pros almost look like normal headphones when you put em on something just as goof-ass as they are.

MajorMajormajormajor , in traumatized

Young me: what the heck is a beheading?

Oh…

The early internet was a wild place.

Norgur ,
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

Yeah, the old internet was rotten to the core.

gibmiser ,
NakariLexfortaine ,

One might even say it was quite ogrish, back in the day.

kspatlas ,

It’s like a cafe full of cannibals!

metaStatic ,

Faces of Death on VHS on Live Leak

Steamymoomilk ,

Reheading please :(

Eczpurt , in Indeed big brain time

Huge confidence booster measuring in reference to sea level

watersnipje ,

Sad Dutch noises

Rubanski , in hip dog

Longe Boie

FooBarrington , in hip dog

Did that dog grow up in a wind tunnel, or did it go backwards through the pug machine?

moshtradamus666 , in Ooooobbbbyyy Ooooonnneee where are you?

The last panel is so funny lol

helpImTrappedOnline , (edited ) in traumatized

Apologies for the rant

We really need a thrid tag. (And NSFL to be a supported tag/filter feature like nsfw)

It should have been;

  • NSFW = anything you wouldn’t wan’t your boss/coworker/stranger in public to see.
  • NSFM = not safe for minors; in other words, porn.
  • NSFL = gore, death, etc.

Theres no way anyone will agree to change nsfw now, so we’ll have to go for something else. I propose;

  • NSFP = not safe for public. This is for things like “sexy pics”, dark, potty, or sex humor (pretty much all of C&H), and that “ball vasectamy switch” post from eailer. It’s a funny post, but personally I don’t want a detailed 3D rendering of balls showing up while scrolling in public.

Edits to include link to the ball post I referenced, and an example community that I belive would fall under my NSFP tag (Cyanide abd Happiness). lemm.ee/c/cyanideandhappinessPlus general spelling and grammar fixes as I find them.

criitz ,

Im good with NSF work and minors being the same, since they basically have the same limitations, but I agree with adding NSFL

helpImTrappedOnline ,

I’d prefer it that way as well (less to try and catagoize and no is it W or P gray zone to figure out), but I think nsfw has become so ubiquitous with porn that not many use it for other stuff. You either have to restablish the nsfw rules (and moderate) or create a new tag to fill in the gap.

brbposting ,

I don’t want a detailed 3D rendering of balls showing up while scrolling in public

Speak for yourself

helpImTrappedOnline ,

I don’t want a detailed 3D rendering of balls showing up while scrolling in public

Speak for yourself

I am?

brbposting ,

Sounded like the Royal I

helpImTrappedOnline ,

Seems your text to speach app is shite if that’s how it sounded to you :p

I’m just trollin’, anyway I added a word so theres no more confusion.

brbposting ,

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/6aab938a-f9f2-4c58-a480-4b67674132d3.jpeg

Might’ve misspelled perineally

Sorry for an apparently lame riff on the classic “speak for yourself!” joke :)


I think I’m pretty satisfied with NSFW & NSFL. Might be neat if different platforms had their own NSFW settings so you could kinda rank your posts on some sort of offensiveness scale? Perhaps NSFP would be more intuitive though.

helpImTrappedOnline , (edited )

Seems so, but I don’t think your spelling is any better :D

hungryphrog , in please

My stupid ass phone keeps demanding me to be connected to the internet in order to view photos that I TOOK ON MY PHONE.

olutukko ,

maybe change your gallery app to something else?

smackjack ,

Do you have any recommendations? I’m tired of Google begging me to turn on cloud storage for my photos every time I open the photos app.

olutukko ,

I use glimpse, which ships by default with lineage os. nit sure if it’s available anywhere. but this one semed pretty neat on a quick try:

github.com/IacobIonut01/Gallery

it’s free on fdroid, 2€ on google play which the developer asks to think as a donation

smowtenshi ,
@smowtenshi@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been using Aves for a while now, it’s pretty alright.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Aves Libre on F Droid

liforra ,
@liforra@endlesstalk.org avatar

I can’t add much but I have to agree with the above replies, Aves is a wonderful gallery app, it looks good. Nice animations, Albums and Tags, Vaults for when u want to hide specific folders

lolcatnip ,

Do you by any chance take a lot of photos on a phone that doesn’t have the capacity to store them all locally?

todd_bonzalez , in please

It’s so funny watching people have this problem for a literal decade, and they’re still complaining instead of using FOSS.

abbiistabbii ,
@abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

This. Straight up this. Just fucking use Linux, it’s ready for casual everyday use.

refalo ,

LOL it absolutely is not. Not even close.

BlackPenguins ,

In what way is it not? It has a desktop, a browser, free app for a word processor. For the CASUAL user it’s fine. Just don’t go into the terminal, like you wouldn’t for the command prompt.

abbiistabbii ,
@abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Hell, even if you do go into the command prompt it’s pretty easy if you’re on something Debian based, apt is really easy to get a hang of.

refalo ,

Hardware compatibility. I have one machine that won’t boot any Linux installer at all. Another with constant gpu driver problems. Another where Bluetooth doesn’t work at all. Another where wifi firmware crashes all the time. It never ends.

UnaSolaEstrellaLibre ,

“Why does my .docx document look all mess up on my computer?”

BlackPenguins ,

I can open .docx just fine with LibreOffice.

skulblaka ,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

Bro I actively challenge you to install Mint and have problems with it. It’s nearly impossible. Worst case you’ll need to wineskin some niche Windows-only game or program, but honestly even that isn’t necessary all that often in my experience. You’re going to have a no-stress install finished in a quarter the time that a windows install would be, and a robust OS that apes the windows environment to such a degree that average non-technical users won’t have any idea they’re even using Linux.

Barring some sort of hardware incompatibility that I haven’t experienced personally, I’ve installed Mint on around a half dozen machines in the past several years and have yet to recieve a complaint from the end users. It just works.

AngryCommieKender ,

Seriously. I’m pretty sure my housemate hasn’t noticed the difference between Mint and Windows. At least they haven’t asked me to help them with anything in over a month, and they would have, if they needed help.

refalo ,

the problem is always hardware incompatibility.

Mint installer does not boot on any machine I have.

Trainguyrom ,

I acquired an ewaste laptop with a 5+ year old Celeron, 4GM of RAM and a spinning rust drive. I tossed mint on there after fighting with Windows update to try to apply 3 years worth of updates and while the installer took 2 hours to complete, it actually is a bit more usable and once it’s booted it’s amusingly chirpy with random slowdowns whenever it has to hit the disc for data.

I might set it up as my daughter’s first computer. She’s getting to that age already so it’s about time to do it

Zink ,

I’ve been daily driving Mint at work for a few months and I love it. It was painless to install, and I like all the GUI/DE stuff better than windows. It also has better multi-monitor support than when I boot into windows.

But it’s still Linux so all the techy development shit works great too. I’m always in the terminal, etc.

KuraiWolfGaming ,

Had some windows users loving the Cinnamon DE on Mint. They managed to get right into it straight away. Plus, on most Linux distros they come with easy to use package managers. And you can still get deb or rpm packages that can be used to install applications just like a windows installer exe.

nexussapphire ,

My mother and aunt picked up on it just fine, they’re actually enjoying it more because there aren’t full screen ads that confuse them and it made their computers faster.

abbiistabbii ,
@abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Tell me you haven’t used Linux recently without telling me you haven’t used Linux recently.

refalo ,

I use it every day across many machines. Still continue to have serious hardware compatibility problems with a wide range of devices. It’s extremely frustrating.

I realize not everyone’s experience is the same, but it can still be a really bad time for some people. Maybe the same can be said about Windows too but I still think it’s not as bad.

liforra ,
@liforra@endlesstalk.org avatar

Remember, hardware incompatibilities is very often the issue because we don’t have many users so many don’t care about Linux

The more people use Linux the more drivers will come. The better hardware will work

lolcatnip ,

Yawn. Yelling at people to just use Linux is ineffective and it comes across as really condescending. It also does nothing to address the issue if how disruptive it is to switch operating systems, especially for less technical users.

merc ,

No, it isn’t.

Linux on a laptop can’t even reliably wake the system when you close then open a laptop lid. There are some basic things that need to work 100% of the time before Linux can be considered ready for casual everyday use.

Longpork3 ,

Can you provide an example of this? Only time I’ve encountered that behaviour was with a laptop that had a defective lid-switch.

merc ,

Honestly, just google it. Tons of people have that problem and if you search for it you get pages and pages of results.

refalo ,

if you think FOSS makes anything better for the average user, especially UX, I have a bridge to sell you.

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Whenever I get to use windows and I face their byzantine directory structure, I wonder how people put up with that shit.

Belgdore ,

The average windows user is tech illiterate. They don’t know what a directory is. I work with a person who opens .docx files by opening Word and using its internal search function. She does not comprehend how or where files are stored.

todd_bonzalez ,

This is one of the biggest issues with corporate operating systems. Back in the day you booted up a computer and you got a black screen with a terminal. You had to know how things worked if you wanted to use the computer.

Today, you boot a computer and it’s simple enough that anyone with eyes and fingers can operate it. People hand iPads to babies, and even they can figure out how to navigate YouTube.

People have convinced themselves that this is “using a computer”, rather than being given a dumbed-down entertainment device designed specifically to exploit them.

People respond negatively when you suggest switching to Linux, because they fear they might actually have to learn something about how the Computer works, and never stop to understand that their illiteracy is the reason that the corporate operating systems they use suck so much.

If you exercise no power to change anything, they can shove as many ads as they want down your throat.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

I work with a person who opens .docx files by opening Word and using its internal search function

Unironically one of MS Word (and Google Docs)'s better features. Its easy to lose track of where you save a file when you’ve got a bunch of them open at once, and the ability to recall recently opened files and search by file name is a lifesaver.

refalo ,

People don’t know what files and folders are anymore.

Ask a non-tech person where they JUST downloaded something to… they can’t tell you.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

On my Android phone the Android phone I have, I find it hard to tell where the stuff I downloaded is.
Until I connect it to the computer and see the directory structure easily.

The Files app seems to be trying to do some kind of Abstraction over here.

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liforra ,
@liforra@endlesstalk.org avatar

Luckily you can just use a different one tho

merc ,

Ask a non-tech person where they JUST downloaded something to… they can’t tell you.

Nobody really bothers to change the default though, so it only really matters if they later try to find the file without using their web browser. And if they do try to do that, “Downloads” is a pretty obvious place to look.

todd_bonzalez ,

People blindly using their computer with zero understand of what they are doing absolutely matters. A computer is a powerful tool. I take the same attitude boomers take with their cars: If you can’t tell me how it works, you have no business using it.

merc ,

Do you mean the byzantine directory structure for system files? The default of installing to “Program Files” doesn’t seem too unusual, although adding “x86” bit seems unnecessarily complicated for a typical end user. Same with the rest of the standard directories that people use most often.

The directory structure for system files is bad, but that’s true for Unix-derivatives too. Unix has /bin and /lib, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/lib, /var/opt, etc. Different versions of Unix have different ideas of what belongs where. Even different flavours of Linux have their own ideas.

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Mostly for user files.

For system files it’s not too bad. At least there’s some logic to it.

todd_bonzalez ,

At least with Linux the distro-specific packages install software where it should go.

On Windows you end up with 32-bit binaries in the 64-bit Program Files folder, and vise versa. You end up with files saved arbitrarily to three different application data directories, and sometimes your Documents folder, so sometimes the registry, why not? Should we put several folders full of drivers directly on the root of the C drive? Of course, where else would they go?

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

At least with Linux the distro-specific packages install software where it should go.

I keep explaining this to my grandmother but she just stares at me and says “When I was your age, we wrote things down in our Trapper Keepers”

smackjack ,

Well going to .local/share/… Isn’t very Intuitive either. Try asking someone who’s new to find their Steam Directory.

todd_bonzalez ,

Do you have any specific notable examples? In my experience, FOSS tends to take a more no-nonsense approach to things.

How does a product that defaults to its own proprietary for-profit offerings providing a better user experience?

The argument I hear most of is that people are just used to what they’ve used in the past, and having difficulty moving to an alternative because of that isn’t indicative of the alternative offering worse UX, but rather an unwillingness to learn anything by the user.

MrPoopbutt ,

A lot of people are also just dumb. FOSS won’t fix dumb.

refalo ,

unwillingness to learn

If you try to get a professional Photoshop or After Effects or Resolve or Solidworks or Quickbooks etc etc. user to use a FOSS equivalent you will be laughed out of the building.

It’s not that they won’t learn, it’s that the alternatives literally can’t do so much of what people need it to do. And at the same time they most often look worse, are harder to use, and are sometimes less stable.

A prime example myself, I have tried to use kdenlive for YEARS to do simple subtitling. Every few years I try the latest version. Without fail it ALWAYS crashes within 20 minutes.

Same for Audacity. 5 minutes into clipping some audio… crash. 3 times in a row. And it looks dog ugly enough to turn me off to even wanting to try it in the first place.

Or GIMP, it can’t do non-destructive editing, this makes it completely unusable for many professionals.

It’s not just one or two things here or there in these apps, it’s huge sweeping problems across the entire FOSS landscape, almost none of the options are comparable for professional users.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

I fundamental thing that makes FOSS better is not the product that exists, but that, when you see a problem, you have the option to think, “let’s see how to fix it”.

Now I have used MS Excel for most of my life, up until University end, and only recently started using LibreOffice Calc instead.

And despite me telling all my colleagues how much better the new versions of LibreOffice fresh are, I know very well that there are still some glaring problems in these programs even in general use.

However, I had experienced some problems in MS Office too and back then all I could do was feel powerless for a few seconds and then either find some workarounds or ignore the problem, depending upon what it was.

In case of LibreOffice, I can make a note of the problem and plan to report a bug and maybe even help fix it, which leaves me on a +ive note at the end of the day.


Digression: Problems with LibreOffice:

  • Calc: Using click+drag on the vertical scrollbar in case of even as low as 800 records, causes lags during the scrolling.
  • Writer: Images cause slowdown. This has been a major issue for a long time and you can probably find some discussions related to this, floating around.

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morbidcactus , (edited )

So I’ll counter an anecdote with an anecdote, my dad is a draftsman by trade and was an engineering technologist for decades, he’s looked at Freecad back and forth and is now seriously looking at it over solidworks for his personal projects now that he’s retired, I also flipped from solidworks which I used professionally for about 5 years before changing roles. Does it have quirks, yeah it does, but so do other cad packages, and lets not pretend that solidworks is a beacon of stability, there’s a reason it was drilled into us in uni to save frequently and why it has autosaving. The UI is relatively simple, there’s plugins to customise it and it has substantially improved over the last decade when I first gave it a try, way better than my memories of using solid edge (and I personally disliked fusion, just didn’t click with me, at least freecad has a near identical workflow to SW). Am I more accepting of jankiness with Foss solutions, straightup yes, it’s provided for free without restrictions on its usage vs solidworks where if you have a maker license for example, only other maker licenses can open the sldprt file.

Another example, I’d wager it’s why you see a lot more r and python usage in statistical spaces where SPSS and SAS were used because those tools are extremely expensive for licenses (I recall a colleague talking about it costing 10s of thousanda at leaat, maybe more, company was always looking into ways they can get off of it) cost alone makes the Foss solutions more accessible.

I’ll be also fair that both of my anecdotal examples we’re using for personal projects but the point is that professional users aren’t a monolith.

jubilationtcornpone ,

This is one reason I’m still paying my monthly Microsoft dues. I’m an advanced [I guess] Excel user and none of the other spreadsheet programs out there can do everything Excel can do. At least not easily.

liforra ,
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Pssssst, Microsoft Activation Scripts (MAS(

mossy_ ,

I had to run an alias every time I wanted to change the brightness on my laptop, and it defaulted to max brightness every time it was restarted.

I get that if I was a better person I could just pull myself by my bootstraps and teach myself to sync the brightness buttons on the keyboard to work again but I’m not. On windows it just worked.

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