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shy_mia , in There's definitely a distinction

Chaotic weird

ChronosTriggerWarning OP ,

The one true answer…!

Glide , in There's definitely a distinction

Imo, the neat thing about this current “weird” discourse is that only right-wingers could ever find it genuinely insulting. Any sensible, self-actualized human being who isn’t obsessing over the sex and genetalia of others is like “haha, yeah, I am kinda weird”.

But the right wing is built on the misconception that they are “normal” and everything else is a problem. They’re the only ones that could ever be bothered by being told they’re weird, because it deconstructs the very foundation of their beliefs. Without the core of “we are normal and everyone else is causing problems in our normal society” backing up their every decision to threaten others over the religon, sexuality or life choices of others, they instead have to face reality: it’s normal to be a little weird, and it’s normal for some of that weird stuff to take root and become normal. And to refuse it and obsess over it is, in its own way, kinda weird.

grrgyle ,

Exactly, exactly! To keep it going, I think their whole worldview is based on what’s “natural” and how their shitty behaviour and policies and ideas are normal and natural, because they view stereotypes about human nature (esp re sex, gender roles, race, family structures, etc) like these unshakeable institutions that they’re powerless to influence in any way.

When really it’s like, nah it hasn’t always been like this, and it will continue changing, forever.

Further, we can do the very difficult work of trying to change it in a way that benefits more of us!

ChronosTriggerWarning OP ,

Hear fuckin’ hear!

kshade ,
@kshade@lemmy.world avatar

The unease doesn’t come from the word itself being a grave insult but, for example, from being bullied for being “weird”.

Sam_Bass , in There's definitely a distinction

Bout 60/40 here

Ghostalmedia , in There's definitely a distinction
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

There is Portlandia weird, and then there’s “I want the government to track your menstrual cycles” weird.

ChronosTriggerWarning OP ,

Exactly!

EarthShipTechIntern ,

Came to say that: Keep Portland Weird Doesn’t welcome MAGA-weird.

KillingTimeItself , in There's definitely a distinction

weird weird.

I’m not good, or bad, i’m a force of chaos that cannot be reckoned with, only conceptualized.

Also. what kind of discourse are we talking about?

Senseless , in There's definitely a distinction

Some of both I guess.

Mouselemming ,

Are you fascinated with the menstrual cycles of strangers? You want to look into the underwear of everyone before letting them into the public bathroom? You so grossed out by other people’s consensual sex practices you want to take away their civil rights? You want trans children to cower in fear, and all the children to be surrounded by guns? You want women to know their place and shut their mouths? And black people to stick to menial jobs so you can kick all the brown people out of the country?

Or are you normal weird, i.e. partly fun weird and partly sad weird?

Senseless ,

Erm, the latter, thanks.

Mouselemming ,

Love your kind of weird.

May the weirdness help you navigate the sad days and increase the buoyancy of the cheery days.

And may it repel the creepy weirdos.

whyNotSquirrel , in 2005 (1985 parody)
@whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works avatar

I am old

hydrashok , in 2005 (1985 parody)

That’s quite an impressive parody. I enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing!

nobleshift , (edited ) in Meh burger
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

Portland 2005, except it’s damn near impossible to get a bad meal in Portland. Best food I ever had consistently in my life.

[edit] Oregon

dsco ,

Portland, TX has some pretty shitty food fyi

nobleshift ,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

All I know of Texas food is Burnt Ends and a Whiskey scene that’s just over the fucking top insane with no end in sight.

dsco ,

No brisket or BBQ? That’s a shame.

nobleshift ,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

Haven’t eaten in Texas …

cradac , in Beep-beep ba-beep, banana bus!
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That’s some 2014 youtube meme

NegativeLookBehind , in Pardon my French
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

French is such a beautiful language

TSG_Asmodeus ,
@TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world avatar
loutr ,
@loutr@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s been commonly used as a pejorative in French for a decade or so.

loaExMachina ,

Yeah. A French equivalent could be “Nique l’extrème-droite”, but that would come out as ruder. Both words have the same literal meaning and same use in their respective language, but when " fuck" is used in French, it’s further from it’s literal meaning. “Fuck X” is then always perceived as a vague statement of hostility towards X, without the sexual connotation.

anachronist ,

I remember sitting in a cafe in Copenhagen and overhearing a conversation at the table next to mine. I had no idea what they were talking about but “fucking” was the only word I recognized. It was about every third word they said.

TSG_Asmodeus ,
@TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world avatar

Au Canada, le juron francais que j’entends est ‘tabarnak’, ‘calice’, ‘ostie’ au lieu de ‘fuck.’

(So I was surprised)

pedz ,

Pourtant c’est plutôt commun au Québec. Ça s’enchaîne pas comme les sacres liturgiques mais c’est bien utilisé. Quelque chose peut être fucké. Une personne peut être fuckée. C’est fucking chiant. Fuck ça! Juste, fuck!

TSG_Asmodeus ,
@TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world avatar

ourtant c’est plutôt commun au Québec. Ça s’enchaîne pas comme les sacres liturgiques mais c’est bien utilisé. Quelque chose peut être fucké. Une personne peut être fuckée. C’est fucking chiant. Fuck ça! Juste, fuck!

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

Did she say “Pardon my English” afterwards?

Spoilt ,

Baise aux réacs !

Kay_Angel , in Firefox + Ublock = 👑
@Kay_Angel@beehaw.org avatar

What does chromium-based browsers on pc have that Firefox doesn’t have? Like I don’t understand why people use Chrome instead of Firefox.

Baizey ,

One thing for danish people is the “online government id” (MitID) everyone has and needs to use for online purchases and logins to banks and various other things.

It straight up only works on chrome for mobile :/

LiveLM ,

I really wish Mozilla would focus on these missing bits and bobs like WebUSB and this one you mentioned instead of whatever the fuck it is that they’re doing now

king_link1 ,

I easily use Firefox and mitID and there is no problem, but if I’m wrong or using a special version it could be different for us

AI_toothbrush , in it makes me irrationally mad

Literally singapore

blaue_Fledermaus , in laughing ass off at hacks
@blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io avatar

While I think it's extremely overhyped, looking at some "AI" art communities it's clear that at least some put a lot of effort on it, going over many many iterations and tweaking the program and the results.

And anyway art is "made" by the observer, not the artist, even the results of natural processes can be art.

(AI in quotes because these tools don't deserve the name, at best High Coherence Media Transformers)

Loulou ,

We sure do not have the same definition of art!

Art does not, in my opinion, need an observer to be art.

If you think the sky is beautiful then that does not make it art, or everything would be art so nothing would be art.

blaue_Fledermaus ,
@blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io avatar

I like to think that anything that CAN be art, if it can be meaningful for someone.

A pebble might be ignored by most people, but a geologist might be fascinated by it, I think that becomes art.

Even in something worked-on at the very least the artist is the observer, and they will put into it the meaning they perceive in it, and if they never share with anyone it's still art.

My opinion.

Loulou ,

Every opinion is valid when it comes to art!

Personally I just think the creative process is a part of it so I don’t see randomness being art.

That doesn’t mean it’s not beautiful! Beauty can be found everywhere and definitely is in the eye of the observer… IMO!

lunarul ,

everything would be art so nothing would be art

A lot of artists share that thought

Loulou ,

That everything is art ? Or that everything can be art?

AVincentInSpace ,

If everything is art, AI art is art, and that’s obviously a disgusting communist lie. Where’s the line?

originalucifer , in There's definitely a distinction
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

i dont think now is the time to be muddying the waters. conservatives dont need the assist, youre just giving them an out

ChronosTriggerWarning OP ,

Do they accept being called weird? I think you give them entirely too much credit… but that’s just my opinion.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

no, they absolutely dont. giving them an option of 'good weird' is going to derail that

ChronosTriggerWarning OP ,

I get that. I don’t think they’re capable of that level of self reflection. To them, weird is BAD. It’s being a part of the “out” group, which is anathema to them.

5C5C5C ,

I think the point is that Republicans detest the idea of being weird no matter what, so they would rage at the suggestion of being a good weird anyway. To them “good weird” is an oxymoron, even though they are actually very weird and not in any kind of good way.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

yeah that makes sense. i was envisioning them attempting to 'own' it by jumping into 'good weird' with both feet.

but as someone else pointed out also, thats prolly giving them too much sefl-aware credit

Rhynoplaz ,

They’ve been bullying the good weirdos for decades, there’s no backtracking now!

Glide ,

It doesn’t matter. Convservativea cannot accept the notion of a “good weird” because it removes all justification from their beliefs. The whole conservative belief system is founded on the notion that there is an effective normal and that normal must be protected from those that would upset it.

They cannot say they’re the “good kind of weird”, because that means admitting that weird can be good. And if weird can be good, they have no ground to plant the roots of their beliefs in. They have to be normal, because if they’re weird, all the time they spent attacking others for being weird in the defence of what’s normal doesn’t make any sense. Calling themselves the good kind of weird is a complete 180 on what it means to be conservative and alienated a massive portion of their voting base who only vote conservative because they see people who are “just like them”, not weirdos who are willing to redefine sex and gender, or question historical narratives.

The “weird” angle of attack has been so effective because it deconstructs the very notion of what it means to be a conservative. Giving them an out through the “good kind of weird” doesn’t change that.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

this is a fantastic point, thank you!

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