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MrHandyMan , in Nvidia SUCKS!

Earlier this year I had a months long issue where my desktop image would freeze if I set its refresh rate higher than 120. I thought my GPU was breaking up, but I finally found a post on the Nvidia forum where someone else had the same issue and realized that it was because of the newest driver. It took months for Nvidia to fix that. Two months ago I just decided to switch to AMD and sold my Nvidia card and haven’t had any issues with AMD so far.

ReverseModule OP ,
@ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

My 3080M won’t go higher than 80W on Linux for the past 3 years that I have this laptop. I tried both the 535 and 545 drivers, still same issue. This is absolutely unacceptable.

ayaya , (edited )
@ayaya@lemdro.id avatar

To be fair AMD recently had a bug where the 6000 series GPUs would sit at 96 mhz unless you set your refresh rate below 100hz and that also took a couple months to be fixed. I was randomly getting 20fps in every game until I managed to find this gitlab issue. It started in kernel 6.4 and wasn’t fixed until 6.6 so I had to play at 90hz on my 165hz monitor for that whole span.

entropicdrift ,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This is why LTS kernels are a good thing. I used 6.1 that entire time and didn’t even know the issue existed on my 6700XT

uranibaba ,

Yeah, same reason I use LTS. Latest features are nice and all but I want a stable system for my everyday life.

vividspecter ,

I’m someone that likes to tinker and be on the bleeding edge, but I agree, LTS makes sense on hardware that is more than 6 months old or so.

tomten ,

LTS is no guarantee that there wont be bugs, 6.1 recently had a bug with NFS where it corrupted files.

entropicdrift ,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I didn’t say it was?

You do get fewer bugs, though, and equally frequent hotfixes

tomten ,

No you didnt, I was just trying to say that you’re not safe either way.

entropicdrift ,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Safety is a sliding scale. You’re certainly safer than bleeding edge

meiko60 , in Nvidia SUCKS!
@meiko60@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Nvidia is the best for Windows. But, if you want the best on Linux and Windows Amd is good

AProfessional ,

Nvidia won’t even let you use their software on Windows if you don’t give them your user data. Hardly the best.

mateomaui ,

That’s only if you care about the GeForce Experience software, I don’t even have it installed so it doesn’t bug me about updates. You can download and install drivers any time without signing in to an account.

angrymouse ,

It is the best if you are paying for the top of the top. In the medium spectrum is probably better to go AMD or Intel cause the cost/benefit.

Gakomi , in first win on linux, lets fucking go

Not sure what the point is here, 2 games that are very amd and vulcan optimized that work grate on amd Linux. Yeah we know amd drivers on Linux are grate nvidia are shit!

synapse1278 ,
@synapse1278@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah ! we all know amd on linux is grate !

SPP , in AMD Rewards Product Verification Tool (pvt.sh) doesn't detect qualifying product.

I had that issue too, after trying for a while I contacted support here and sent them a screenshot with the ouput of lspci.

The following day I got a new code that didn’t requiere using AMD PVT.

Hope this helps

AnUnusualRelic , in AMD Rewards Product Verification Tool (pvt.sh) doesn't detect qualifying product.
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

What does that script even do, other than running lspci and, presumably, misreading the output? Did anyone read it?

Apparently it requires some kind of account.

AgriasArseid , in AMD Rewards Product Verification Tool (pvt.sh) doesn't detect qualifying product.
@AgriasArseid@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I had that issue too, apparently the vendor gave me a code for the wrong piece of hardware, either way amd support helped me get the correct code that verified properly.

GustavoM , in Nvidia SUCKS!
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

Reject AMD/NVidia

Embrace RISC-V.

(No, really. I’m unironically considering using an risc-v sbc as my next “main desktop pc” for the next few years, and relying (only) on cloud gaming for my dopamine needs.)

meiko60 ,
@meiko60@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

not everyone have stable Internet connection. Local game is the best

GustavoM ,
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

…are you sure about that? 10 Gibps is about to be standardized all around the globe.

meiko60 ,
@meiko60@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Internet capability in first world countries and Third World countries are totally different. also, cloud gaming is definitely no go if you want to play on the plane (Steam Deck/Switch/ROG etc is the solution for this)

haui_lemmy ,

Hahahahaha! I live in germany and the best I can get is 250mbits for 75 € per month. We have no cable, no fiber, only dsl/copper lines.

What was that about first world countries?

angrymouse ,

OK this is new to me, do you live in the countryside? I live around Porto Alegre in Brazil and for 120 reais (9% of minimum wage and around 24 euros I have a 500mbps fiber connection. But it would be dramatically different between metropolitan areas and a small city

haui_lemmy ,

Nope. On the edge of a big city. A couple streets further they have fiber. Here, they dont. But congrats to you having a good connection. Mine is roughly 6% of minimum wage.

GustavoM ,
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

Huh? Third world countries are 100% capable to deal with streaming servers with flawless performance – where are you getting those ideas from?

JPAKx4 ,

Also 10gibps doesn’t say anything about the latency, which is what makes me avoid cloud hardware steaming

GustavoM ,
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

No, but we are talking about a STREAMING service. Which means, an ISP would have to be beyond terrible if it couldn’t provide decent streaming performance under an 10 Gibps connection. Which thankfully, is not the case even for Africans, Nigarians or any other “sub third-world country.”

angrymouse ,

What? No, games arent just “streaming”, the time between you seeing stuff and and the server processing your inputs reacting to this new state of the game should be short, you can easily do this with a 500mbps connection with low latency but will not work with a 10gbps with 200 ping.

JPAKx4 ,

Additionally, if you have a spotty 10gbs connection, you’ll still have a bad experience. The maximum capabilities of something doesn’t define how it can be used in the real world. I’m not denying some people can use it just fine, but it’s not mainstream for a reason.

onlinepersona ,

Cries in German

BURN ,

Since when?

Most places in the US still can’t get 1G, let alone 10. 1st world countries aren’t even close to that target, let alone a developing nation.

If you’re thinking about starlink, it’s going to be terrible for gaming and introduces a ton of latency.

visor841 ,

AMD/Nivdia GPUs will still run with RISC-V. RISC-V is a CPU architecture, not GPU.

ProtonBadger ,

Even Nvidia have embraced RISC-V, the general purpose controller embedded on their GPU's is RISC-V.

shekau , in first win on linux, lets fucking go

What distro are you playing on?

prettydarknwild OP ,
@prettydarknwild@lemmy.world avatar

arch linux

shekau , in What makes Debian so different from its derivatives that gaming on it is almost an heroic task to achieve?

I’m using Debian and LoL is running smoothly, dont know about other games you mentioned

cmnybo , in AMD Rewards Product Verification Tool (pvt.sh) doesn't detect qualifying product.

It didn’t work for me either. I contacted their support and they asked for a picture of the serial number on the box, a copy of the invoice and the code. They got it verified a few hours later.

sugar_in_your_tea , (edited ) in Nvidia SUCKS!

reinstall the OS cause OpenSUSE stopped booting

Just do a snapper rollback. It’s pretty easy:

  1. Boot from older kernel in the boot menu and check if it works
  2. Run sudo snapper rollback
  3. Reboot

Boom, saved you a reinstall.

Alternatively, you can set up zypper to keep old NVIDIA packages, then just login to a CLI and install the older driver package, then reboot. I did that a few times as well, but the snapper rollback was easier.

X11 is ALSO buggy

I didn’t have any of those issues for the 3-ish years I was on Tumbleweed and NVIDIA. I’m now still on Tumbleweed, but have switched to AMD for proper Wayland support

ReverseModule OP ,
@ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Thanx for the rollback command! :)

And yeah, some games wouldn’t even boot. So I’m doing 5 games in this benchmark after all. Perhaps it’s cause it’s an Optimus laptop.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Perhaps. It’s been years since I messed with that. In fact, my last laptop I opted for an AMD APU and no GPU so I wouldn’t need to deal with graphics switching.

ProtonBadger , in Nvidia SUCKS!

I guess mileage might differ. I installed Tumbleweed and then the Nvidia drivers following the wiki instructions. Everything is going great. Running a 3060 with Wayland+Plasma on a 360Hz screen and gaming through Steam. I love Tumbleweed.

An alternative if just for benchmarking is EndeavourOS, you can choose proprietary Nvidia drivers as a boot option in the installer and then I believe it'll be installed with them without further ado. Downside is if you use it long term you have to read Arch News before updates to spot breaking/incompatible changes and be knowledagable of things like pacnew/pacsave files, etc.

ReverseModule OP ,
@ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I reinstalled Tumbleweed and it worked fine. Have a 3080M vs 6800M benchmark coming up once it’s done transcoding.

meiko60 ,
@meiko60@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Nah, I have same issues. My hardware is 2 years old. I use manjaro/Ubuntu LTS and Non-LTS/PopOS/LinuxMint/Zorin/LMDE/Nobara and endeavour OS and it’s freezing quite often and I have to go back to Windows atm. I think Nvidia is main culprit here. If I move to Full AMD. I might try Linux again

shapis , in (Linux - OOTB) 3080M vs 6800M in 5 games - AMD about 10% faster
@shapis@lemmy.ml avatar

Which desktop GPUs would these be equivalent to?

ReverseModule OP ,
@ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Good question, I have no idea.

MossyFeathers , in Tumbleweed vs Windows 11 in 5 games on a 3080M - Windows about 10% faster on Average

Honestly, this is why I still haven’t switch to Linux. I have an Nvidia card that I use for stuff like Substance Painter and between that and games, if I was dual-booting I’d probably be running windows 90%-95% of the time. That said, it’s a 3060ti and not a 3080m, so the desktop cards might play nicer than the mobile chips, but still…

If the benchmarks came out on par or with greater performance for Linux then I’d probably switch and either dual-boot or run windows 10 in a VM for the stuff that doesn’t play nice with compatibility layers.

ReverseModule OP ,
@ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Makes sense. I have great hope for NVK, the open source Nvidia Vulkan driver, in 1 or 2 years. Perhaps then, things will be the other way around. :)

MossyFeathers ,

Ye, hopefully. I’m not looking forward to the day Microsoft shuts off updates for windows 10.

CatLikeLemming ,
@CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Of course I can’t entirely generalize from this, however my 2080Ti worked perfectly out of the box on EndeavourOS. Game performance is also mostly similar to my Windows install - if they ran well, they still do, and if they ran badly, then the same goes for that as well.

saddlebag ,

You should try it out. I’ve got a 3080 desktop card. I’ve been running Linux as my only os for at least 4/5 years and I had a 970 before this. Barely had any issues with gaming or thermal throttling and it’s running in an SFFPC (Dan H2O).

dack ,

Nvidia drivers have had way more issues with mobile chips than with desktop. GPU compute workloads (including things like Blender) are very well supported. Nvidia on Linux has dominated the compute market for a long time.

veloxization , in Tumbleweed vs Windows 11 in 5 games on a 3080M - Windows about 10% faster on Average
@veloxization@yiffit.net avatar

Glad I went with AMD when I built my current PC with the purpose to go full-time Linux.

CatsGoMOW ,

I just got a new all AMD laptop to replace my Nvidia laptop for this same reason.

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