Impressive to see it correctly render such a modern game and even at something approaching playable frame rates at high resolution? What is this magic?
If you’re using Steam then you could try adding PROTON_LOG=1 %command% to your launch options for the game. This will output a log file into $HOME/steam-$APPID.log ($APPID will probably be 823130 in this case). This log file might show why the game isn’t starting. You could even post this log file here as a pastebin link to see if anyone can help diagnose if you’re unable to see anything obvious.
oh ok. here is the log pastebin.com/FQSf9TUN, I have only included errors and warnings but if you need anything else I’ll try to include more stuff. But the log file was bigger than 512kB. Anyaway I searched my error online and found it is likely a driver issue, but I’m pretty sure my drivers are ok.
P.S: After a more careful look I noticed this:
<span style="color:#323232;">12163.213:0128:0198:err:kerberos:kerberos_LsaApInitializePackage no Kerberos support, expect problems
</span><span style="color:#323232;">12163.215:0128:0198:err:ntlm:ntlm_LsaApInitializePackage no NTLM support, expect problems
</span>
I’m not familiar with the games mentioned in the article, but Linux is great for gaming. I run Manjaro on my T540p laptop and have never had problems with Angband or Nethack. I can even run DF with tilesets if I’m feeling spunky. Mind you, I do have 8 gbs of RAM and a pretty sweet Intel integrated graphics setup, so that may be why it’s so smooth.
I chose a distro with Steam preinstalled, it was ualinux (not maintained any more so i’m not recommending it). If your primary use case is games I recommend a gaming specific distro, everything works out of the box.
Also, how do the French people walk in games? ZSAD?
I’ve been running Wayland for a while on my amd rig and haven’t had any problems with xwayland in regards to compatibility. Nvidia on the other hand is problematic but the drivers seem to be improving with every release.
I switched to Mint this month and have only run into issues with anti-cheat. I’ve tried about 8 different games. Halo Infinite had some odd textures the first time I ran it, but not since.
Assuming this is the usual case where most games are within noise of each other, the ones that don’t run under linux are excluded, and nobody acknowledges that the need to precache/predownload shaders provides short term benefits.
Its like people miss the good old days of “This is the year of linux gaming. Everything works and is perfect. Okay, those games don’t work. But every game I care about works. Except the ones that don’t”. Like, we really are in a golden age of gaming parity but pretending there isn’t still work to be done serves no benefit.
Yup. Just use the same benchmarks major sites use and note any interesting differences. They usually pick games for specific technical reasons, so most of the work figuring out where Linux is weak is done for you.
I personally play on Linux because I use Linux, but because I think it has better performance than Windows or whatever. That should be the selling point, not slight differences in performance. Show that Linux is largely on par with Windows, and then go through all of the other benefits to using Linux, like privacy, package management, and user choice.
Yeah. More or less the same. Pretty much the entirety of my work day is in a terminal and I have increasingly liked “linux” as a desktop since Mint (and now Plasma) are “more windows than windows” in terms of UI/UX. WSL gets Windows a lot of the way toward the OS I want (a good nix-ish terminal with a strong GUI for day to day), but MS also add more and more spyware and stupidity with every update so…
But holy crap do the evangelists go out of their way to undermine widespread linux adoption. Whether it is pretending that opencad is at all a replacement for fusion 360 or that gimp is comparable to photoshop or it is inflating performance or compatibility numbers.
Like, I’ve tried to switch over a few times over the years. And it has always been a shitshow. ProtonDB goes a long way, but it is also prone to outdated information (since the one person still playing Tribes 2 has no need to try newer versions of wine/proton and so forth). And if you check message boards you get the same skewed bullshit. Which mostly boils down to “Okay, well. I figured out that game X won’t work. And I now assume that these fifty other games I care about won’t either”
These days? it is a lot easier because Valve have put in the work to the point that I can more or less just check games in steam. There is still the risk of a new patch breaking something, but it is a lot closer to the good parts of protondb where the steps to recover to a good build are pretty easy (Armored Core 6 was basically a case of just rolling back a major revision of proton) rather than the shitshow. Which then makes it “Well, game X won’t work. But I am reasonably confident that every other game I care about will run performantly so…”
This is exactly why I don’t recommend my distro, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. It works well for me, but online help is more limited vs Fedora and the various Debian derivatives. I’ve been Linux only for something like 15 years, and I’d hate for someone to take my advice and have a bad experience.
So I recommend Linux Mint Debian, because I know Debian is solid and Linux Mint has a ton of support. I also tell people to not expect crazy performance and for some games to just not work, that way they’ll be pleasantly surprised when things work better than they expect. As they say, under promise, over deliver.
Of the two main games I play, one doesn’t work on Linux due to the anti-cheat they use, and the other has horrific stuttering while loading game assets.
But Linux works better for the curated selection for this article.
Yup, the best part about Arch is the wiki. If you can’t find what you need, you suck at searching, because it’s well organized and has tons of information.
I don’t use Arch anymore, but I still refer to the Arch wiki because it’s so great.
I’m genuinely concerned about github.com/Whisky-App/Whisky (wine for mac). If they make games run well on mac, there’ll be less of a chance for mac users to want to switch to linux in order to game.
And when windows users get burned by windows 12, they’ll most likely switch to a Mac if gaming works on it.
Given just how good apple’s SOCs have gotten, more power to them if that’s what they want. If they’re willing to switch to apple they were never seriously interested in linux.in the first place
I don’t think Mac uses will switch to Linux for playing games, they’d either use Windows or play whatever is available on macOS.
But yeah, if gaming on macOS ever gets close to gaming in Windows, I can see some Windows users moving to macOS. But honestly, I also see that as a good thing for Linux gaming since the lower Windows market share is, the more game devs need to cater to the smaller platforms. Also, Apple hardware is expensive enough and hardware limited enough that I don’t see macOS ever really catering to high end gaming, so people who don’t want Windows but do want a higher end gaming experience would flock to Linux. That said, I don’t know how their SOCs compare to discrete GPUs, so I’m not sure where exactly that l line.
I meant Mac users specifically. Regular Windows users would probably be less annoyed by Windows on a ROG Ally but SteamOS is the closest thing to an Apple experience for PC games.
Perhaps. I haven’t used the ROG Ally or any of the Windows-based PC handhelds, so I can only speak for how much I enjoy my Steam Deck.
That said, the “Apple experience” would be a Switch. It just works, looks sleek, and it costs way more than it should given the hardware specs. Yeah, it’s not a PC handheld, but that’s where I’d expect most Apple users to go for games.
Who knows, maybe they’ll all of a sudden decide to invest in that if Maccies find out they can play games, but are unsatisfied with the performance. Anything can happen.
From what I’ve heard the GPU in the newest, most expensive iPhones is okay and a good step up but the chip in Macs is basically the same as in iPhones, just more cores, more memory, and not power constrained because of cooling. I think it’s pretty clear that Apple develops these for iPhone first and Macs are just an afterthought.
If that’s the case, then there is no danger - for now. But if Apple’s CEO wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and says “I want to tear up the gaming industry”, he totally could.
These tech YouTubers should do Linux comparisons. These are not small differences when comparing, let’s say, Nvidia 4060 and the RX 7600. It could make the AMD GPU edge out the more expensive Nvidia offering
I’d like this. At first I stuck with Nvidia because they had drivers for Linux. But I’ve been on that train so long. Only reason I’m still on it is cuda cores for video editing with davinci resolve.
And with the popularity of the Steam Deck, it’s actually a pretty reasonable thing to do now. I want three sets of numbers: Windows and Linux on the same hardware, and Steam Deck. Maybe do a fourth for Windows handheld PCs like ROG Ally.
Yup, my only complaint is that Steam Deck controller doesn’t seem to work automatically with Heroic games launched through desktop mode, and most guides I see recommend running games through Steam.
If Heroic had smooth integration with the Steam Deck, I’d use it a lot more.
my only complaint is that Steam Deck controller doesn’t seem to work automatically with Heroic games launched through desktop mode
If you hold start for 1 second in desktop mode you can switch between Desktop and Gamepad profile (which should just emulate a regular gamepad), assuming you don’t mean that.
From what I see, the only way to do it is to launch Steam and configure it there, and Steam needs to be running while I’m playing whatever game. Or at least that’s what I found online. It seems most people add Heroic to Steam, so maybe I’ll try that.
It’s not documented directly since it’s done with Steam’s built-in controller customisation. Under desktop mode in Steam Settings -> Controller -> Desktop Layout -> Edit Layout – there are two Action Sets with the start button bound to switch between them on long press. You’ll hear a sound when it happens as well and the game will detect it as an Xbox controller.
This acts system wide as long as Steam is running but it won’t give you the per-application customisation you get by adding it to Steam.
Thanks! I’ll play around with it. I haven’t played around with the controller customization that much, just basic things like remapping a couple buttons.
I’ll check out Tumbleweed. Any downsides to it compared to Ubuntu forks?
It has been a while, but nVidia drivers have always been a pain to install, especially when you also need an older version of CUDA. If tumbleweed has a better compatibility/easier installation process, it is a big win.
Tumbleweed is rolling release (kinda like arch), although they have a pretty rigorous testing process. So that could be a pro or a con depending on who you’re asking.
If what you’re specifically after is older CUDA toolkit compatibility, then I’d recommend using distrobox instead. That’s what I do for ML workloads. (If you plan on redistributing binaries then you’ll have to strip them with binutils though)
That take depends on what you need from Ubuntu 18.04. I’m not to familiar with how robotics stuff works, but perhaps a docker image would work? That way you can keep whatever libraries you need, and run it on whatever base OS you need. That said, I don’t know how much of CUDA or whatever is in the driver vs the userland library, so I’m not sure if it would work.
As for distro, it doesn’t matter as long as it’s relatively decent. I recommend Linux Mint Debian edition, but I personally use OpenSUSE Tumbleweed.
I saw a question below about Tumbleweed, and you may want to look into OBS, which is OpenSUSE’s way of building whatever libraries you need in a repo. So you’d basically find or build a recipe for your version of CUDA and install that alongside whatever else is in the system (assuming the Docker option doesn’t work). If you’re using a relatively popular stack, chances are someone has already gotten it working.
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