Steam decks have been out for years now, and even though they sold millions of copies they’re not the majority of Linux machines, you can check the GPU AMD Custom GPU 0405 on the GPU field since that’s the steam deck one, it’s at 0.82% and had a 0.23% increase this month. So some of the increase in Linux came from it (around half), but there’s still a lot of new Linux PC users.
Also it’s worth mentioning that every time that the Linux share has gone down it coincides with a spike in Chinese language usage.
Because percentages don’t tell you the whole picture, imagine you have a group of 100 people, with 2 of them being of a certain group, e.g. Linux users, also 20 of them are of a different group, e.g. Chinese speaking. In percentages that means 2% for one and 20% for the other group. If next month the 20% group increases to 33.3% and the other drops to 1.6% there are a couple of alternatives, but the simplest explanation is that 20 new people from the second group were added to the total, meaning that while the percentage decreased for the first group the total amount of people in it did not.
So, when you only have a percentage it’s hard to know if the total number of people increased, decreased, or remained the same because you don’t know if the total is the same. Since people don’t just decide to switch to Chinese it’s expected than when the amount of a language changes significantly that most likely means the total amount of people changed, and you can guess by how much, doing that calculation you can see that every time the Linux users decreased its likely the total number of users increased and the number of Linux users remained the same or even grew, just not by the same margin as the total amount of users did.
I was digging around on the steam hardware survey and it does list steam deck separately if you tell the hardware survey to only show you Linux, and it is ~5.5x more popular that arch, and also reports that arch and Ubuntu are similar, leading me to believe the steam deck is fully excluded from the default combined view.
If you take that x5.5 and use it to extrapolate, steam decks should have about 0.82% market share
Dunno bro everything works for me on mint. I also have higher frame rates and better stability. Getting Stable Diffusion working on my AMD card is probably the hardest thing i have had to do. Even that is three lines in the terminal now. You may need to dick around with proton settings and read the forums to find what Cyberpunk runs on best if you want to deal with the bug.
I’ve been using it the last couple days on a 7800xt. It works but has been fairly unstable. Hopefully that’s just new hardware driver problems that will get sorted out eventually.
Is it just in Stable Diffusion or in general? I’ve been happy with my 6800xt so far, but it’s always nice to know what’s available. I keep meaning to try it with the Arc A750 I have laying on the shelf, according to some benchmarks I’ve seen it’s better than my card at image generation.
In general, unfortunately. I’ve had a couple instances of my machine hard locking up, game crashes causing the entire desktop session to restart, and have had to try many different kernels.
Hmm, that’s not good. Good to know though. I see it launched 4 months ago, so I hope it’ll get a good bit better! It’s definitely a major downside to having a cutting edge system.
Is there an up do date installation instruction for it that doesn't require some higher degrees in terminal magic? The last time I checked, which wasn't too long ago, I just stopped bothering when reading halfway through.
I’ve been cheating a bit and just using EasyDiffusion. It’s just a shell script that runs and configures everything for you. It’s basically a portable installation that keeps everything in a nice neat folder. I have actually gone through the whole installation process before, and it can definitely be a slog with my limited experience.
I don’t recall getting that warning, but I did need to adjust a few things to get my GPU recognized. I haven’t had a chance to read too much about your message, but with a quick skim over the documentation it appears it just affects startup latency.
it runs my games better than Linux and I’m really lost.
You already answered your own question/experience – do some “duckduckgoing” (even if it means falling back to the basics once again, “How to run a windows game on linux”) and then come back here. Because yes, GNU/Linux is 100% viable for gaming and can even run games better than on Winblows – if you know how to setup things properly.
A word of advice however, Linux tend to be a bit “sensitive” regarding some system elements/packages – you’ve got to provide all possible info to everything – theres no “ready out of the box” in these lands.
Some games, others run worse. It’s usually within 10% either way, which isn’t something I’d personally pick an OS over. You can probably tune things to eek out an extra percent or two, but imo that’s not worth it unless you’re really into that kind of thing.
theres no “ready out of the box” in these lands
That’s just not true. Most of the time, Linux works great out of the box, but there are some common areas where that’s not the case:
laptops with dGPUs - Linux just doesn’t handle graphics switching as well as Windows, but the solution is easy as OP found out
crappy WiFi cards - just buy Intel NICs
crappy sound cards - less of a problem these days, but sound can still be a massive pain
And that’s pretty much it. If you buy quality hardware, your OOTB experience is probably going to be great! If you buy an AMD GPU, it’ll be even better since you don’t even need to install graphics drivers! I had zero issues on my desktop switching between distros (everything just works), and my only issue with my laptop was using very recent hardware, which was fixed with kernel updates (there was a known bug with sound over HDMI on my AMD laptop).
Imo, Linux is much more likely to “just work” than Windows, assuming you’re installing the OS yourself. Every time I’ve installed Windows, I’ve had to track down a bunch of drivers, downloading Wi-Fi drivers on my Linux computer and installing them with a USB stick. That sucks.
I’m doing my part. Had a 2nd desktop worth of parts and put latest Ubuntu on it, trying out games that I have already installed on Windows. Once my game pass sub expires next year I’ll probably fully switch over.
@JaxiiRuff@mr_MADAFAKA Competition is good, but GOG is the only one I've really seen anyone say they prefer over Steam. For various reasons, the Epic store seems to mainly be used begrudgingly for games only sold there, or to take advantage of free games they give away.
Honestly having Heroic and co. is like doing their work for them. At least Steam and GOG are supportive of Linux (much less so in the case of GOG but still), not the case with Tim “Linux=Moving to Canada” Sweeney’s Epic “We pretend saving the PC gaming ecosystem by bringing in exclusives and other shit” Games
This is what you get for using fedora in 2023. I have no issues with garuda, lutris and proton: it’s been at least a month since I’ve tried to play a game and failed. Which is alright imo- I don’t wanna play any given game if it doesn’t support Linux EAC in the first place
Still very impressive considering this is all run by translating the same Windows API calls into Linux ones, and then running them. There’s definitely some overhead in doing this, and yet they still beat Windows native.
Computerbase is very solid and well known in Germany and have been covering Linux quite a bit for a while now.
Performance of course can fluctuate heavily between games but the amount of progress that Linux made over the past decade is nothing but astonishing.
that's kind of my take on it too. Linux has come so far from what it used to be like. it's not quite ready to see mass-adoption, but it's making some amazing strides. so many different parties have been contributing to a massive effort to iron out some of the issues with Linux. once performance improves significantly over Windows, and compatibility gets a little more wide-spread, you'll start to see people willing to put up with the teething problems, in the name of superior performance.
THAT is when Linux will see more mainstream success.
some year, i don't know when, really will be the year of Linux.... maybe.
I don't think we'll see like some definitive year of Linux, instead we will just have slowly rising user numbers. The only exception would be if Microsoft fucks up so badly that it will completely drive people away from Windows.
You mean worse than the train wreck of Vista, then 8, then 11? Yes they will continue to do worse for most people but it wont matters as long as it is the default choice.
Reading your post I'd say you should've installed Ubuntu. Don't know why you chose Fedora over anything else if you don't know what you were doing. The problems you faced were all likely already fixed in Ubuntu long ago.
I don’t see how anything here depends on the distro, could you be more specific? Here’s what I see:
azerty issue - I have the same with Dvorak, and having qwerty as the first keyboard in my DE and as my system keyboard and using Dvorak as my active keyboard usually works well; but this issue isn’t unique to Linux, non-qwerty keyboard users are second class citizens most of the time
rendering issue in game - related to drivers and Proton version, neither of which differ by distro
It’s possible the azerty issue works better in Ubuntu (not sure how), but the second is due to property software that Ubuntu does not have control over (NVIDIA drivers most likely), as well as the Proton version which is shipped by Valve (again, Ubuntu has no control here).
So unless you know something I don’t, I don’t see how choice of distro is relevant here. I’ve had the keyboard issue on every distro I’ve used: Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch, Debian, and OpenSUSE (both Leap and Tumbleweed). It’s just a quirk of how Linux DEs handle keyboards.
Windows also doesn’t work out of the box like you demonstrated in your post, people are just familiar with how to get it working. Like, Linux isn’t more complicated than Windows, it’s just both complicated and unfamiliar to a lot of people.
Yup. Imo, Linux has a better OOTB experience than Windows since most drivers are already part of the kernel (esp if you buy an AMD GPU). If you only need basic software (web browser, office suite, etc), you’ll be good with any major Linux distro after a default install.
The complexity of Linux only really comes into play if you run into issues, like some hardware isn’t properly recognized/supported (frequent on cheap laptops, esp WiFi and sound), or you need specific Windows software.
That said, if you know both systems well, I think Linux is easier. It’s usually just tweaking a config file or setting up a third party repo and installing a propriety driver. And that can be nearly completely avoided by being careful when buying hardware, and knowing what to avoid takes some experience.
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