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DAMunzy ,

Your ignorant use of tankies is what bothers me the most. I already knew you’d vote dumbly no matter what, Blue MAGA. 🙄

splonglo ,

I think the Tankies have already made their minds up. The real people who won’t be voting Biden are some % people who saw the debate.

Carlo ,

I agree that it’s only really the low-information undecided voters who will be swayed by a bad debate performance. Happily, we still have 5 months until the election, and I doubt that many people will be thinking about this by the time they get to the ballot box.

DAMunzy ,

Your ignorant use of tankies is what bothers me the most. I already knew you’d vote dumbly no matter what, Blue MAGA. 🙄

manuallybreathing ,

No ones mad at you for voting you dweeb, some people just wont vote for him, the debate changed nothing.

I’m a tAnKiE and I dont even get a vote, pretend youre voting for me, have at it.

reagansrottencorpse ,

☝🏻🤓 I am very smart!

problematicPanther ,
@problematicPanther@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll vote for biden unless he drops out and a more progressive candidate presents itself, in which case I won’t vote biden.

Wogi ,

I’m normally critical of Biden but this is one of the few times I’ll say it. Biden staying in the race is the best thing he can do.

It doesn’t matter when he drops out at this point, the time to do that was 8 months ago. If he drops out now and there’s an open convention, democrats lose in November. If he drops out after the convention, and the DNC chooses a different candidate to replace him, Democrats lose in November.

The last time anything similar happened, there were riots outside the DNC in Chicago and Hubert Humphrey safely handed the office to Richard Nixon.

Fun fact, Hilary Clinton attended the protests.

01101000_01101001 ,

Is this loss?

drunkpostdisaster ,

I am starting to think tankies part of another troll from. No way these idiots can be for real.

awwwyissss ,

Some of them are useful idiots, some are shills using LLMs to push agendas.

Decoy321 ,

There’s a lot of money in propaganda. It’s everywhere now.

Diva ,
@Diva@lemmy.ml avatar

Putin actually is on the record that he prefers Biden as he’s more predictable.

ShitOnABrick , (edited )
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

💤💤💤💤💤💤 nememene 💤💤💤💤💤💤 nememene 💤💤💤💤💤💤 🥱😌 a uh I uh a hmm? I skibdi with um hairy legs turn blonde… COVID dealing with uh… everything hmmm… we had to uh deal with uh… OOOooorereaaaa if we finally beat Medicare… Finally beat Medicare

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UraniumBlazer ,

“Old man bad. His alternative not worse.”

Are u a secret Republican or something?

ShitOnABrick ,
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

no old man funny

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8fe4f054-6518-4e7d-8046-885628ff50a6.png

PsyDoctah9Jah ,
@PsyDoctah9Jah@lemmy.world avatar

…I struggle to see how any sane individual would vote for either option. Or allow their emotions to be unnerved by “politics”. It is also concerning that more people are not aware of how the electoral process works. The popular vote bickering with one another while both sides laugh at you.

Please stop making decisions rooted in “the lesser of”. If you can pick between the “lesser of two evils” its because you’ve got evil in you…

…Someone is going to watch your child and you’re given two choices: one is a convicted pedophile and the other is a convicted murderer…

… for some of us, there is no choice to choose from. Even under duress we have free will. A gun to my head might influence my decision making, I still made a decision…I could have decided otherwise.

I wont get worked up over political theater. It’s more agonizing to witness them play the same trick, generation after generationn and yall keep drinking the kool-aid 🫤

pastabatman ,

The problem with your pedophile vs murderer analogy is that Biden and Trump are not equally bad. Trump is a drastically worse choice than Biden. It’s not even remotely close.

You can choose not to vote and try to wash your hands of the whole situation, but they will never be clean. If you don’t vote and Trump wins, that’s on your hands too.

Facebones ,

Biden has pushed plenty of problematic legislation to further dismantle and demonize anybody further left than mid right establishment democrats and third parties in general - plus continuing to not actually DO ANYTHING to stop the ones they claim to he the “last line of defense” from or to codify the issues they claim to protect - but y’all don’t mind fascism that doesn’t affect your personal status quo.

pastabatman ,

I never said Biden is great. I said Trump is unquestionably worse and that is still true. You can be mad about it. Be furious. But don’t let your righteous indignation be the reason we get four more years of trump.

Facebones ,

4 more years of Biden just means Trump or the next worse guy next time with 4 more years of prep work dems won’t do a damn thing about because they don’t have a platform if they actually do anything about it.

I’m over voting for 3 steps right or 5 steps right. We still move right either way and y’all are complicit.

pastabatman , (edited )

Fine. Your choice is three steps right (Biden) or five steps right (Trump). Not voting is also five steps right, but you get to feel smug about it. Thanks in advance for your help, I know you’ll make the right decision.

Facebones ,

Voting Biden means working tirelessly to spread disinformation about third party voters being non voters who advocate for not voting, like a good little faschie.

Thank you so much for this perfect example where instead of recognizing somebody’s grievances you call them a Trump supporting non voter and preemptively blame your loss on them (but not enough to actually adjust policy to win those votes of course, thats not the fascist way!)

Onward Blue MAGA, you have more misinformation to spread!

dodgy_bagel ,

Two serial murderers, one with a higher body count and is also a pedophile, rapist, con man, national security threat, insurrectionist, and convicted felon.

And at that point, it’s not an analogy any more.

PsyDoctah9Jah ,
@PsyDoctah9Jah@lemmy.world avatar

@Pastabatman 😅… you read my comment & thought I’d engage in political banter with you😅 don’t insult my intelligence😆. Only to reply with political comparisons. Tells me you didn’t comprehend. Any retorts rooted in political jargon tells me the message was lost. The analogy isn’t exhaustive…nor was it used as direct synonyms for Biden & Trump…

Perhaps this will help bring it home…a quarter…is still a quarter no matter hown you flip it, or what side it lands on… you still engaged in commerce…

Yall gotta stop reading stuff online and cherry picking whatever triggered your emotion, being willfully obtuse, dismissing everything before during and after lol it’s so funny😆

@dodgy_bagel - I just skipped to the latter part of your reply. Nothing happens until, if ever, the masses can have a common understanding that is based on truth. Expecting the very thing that oppresses you to free you is asinine. Expecting a broken system, a broken process to fix itself is less than smart… you’ve been hoodwinked and bamboozled, the fix was in and has been in for generations. It’s nonsense once you unpack it all and once you do you see the world, things, as they are, and not as they should be. All the brilliant minds in the world and THESE two are your options 🤣😂 why are people so content on elderly people, specifically old white males in office. Living on this planet is definitely interesting to observe…I just smh🙄 what good do your words do if they can’t understand you…

dodgy_bagel ,

So in your reality, what happens?

Seriously, what are you hoping to gain? What’s the desired effect?

The progressive faction just… never votes. What happens? Magic? Revolution?

You’re the sane one, so tell me.

PsyDoctah9Jah ,
@PsyDoctah9Jah@lemmy.world avatar

@Pastabatman 😅… you read my comment & thought I’d engage in political banter with you😅 don’t insult my intelligence😆. Only to reply with political comparisons. Tells me you didn’t comprehend. Any retorts rooted in political jargon tells me the message was lost. The analogy isn’t exhaustive…nor was it used as direct synonyms for Biden & Trump…

Perhaps this will help bring it home…a quarter…is still a quarter no matter hown you flip it, or what side it lands on… you still engaged in commerce…

Yall gotta stop reading stuff online and cherry picking whatever triggered your emotion, being willfully obtuse, dismissing everything before during and after lol it’s so funny😆

@dodgy_bagel - I just skipped to the latter part of your reply. Nothing happens until, if ever, the masses can have a common understanding that is based on truth. Expecting the very thing that oppresses you to free you is asinine. Expecting a broken system, a broken process to fix itself is less than smart… you’ve been hoodwinked and bamboozled, the fix was in and has been in for generations. It’s nonsense once you unpack it all and once you do you see the world, things, as they are, and not as they should be. All the brilliant minds in the world and THESE two are your options 🤣😂 why are people so content on elderly people, specifically old white males in office. Living on this planet is definitely interesting to observe…I just smh🙄 what good do your words do if they can’t understand you…

dodgy_bagel ,

K. You don’t read all of my short reply then I don’t read past the first sentence of your long winded reply.

You’re not a serious person.

PsyDoctah9Jah ,
@PsyDoctah9Jah@lemmy.world avatar

All relative. Typical reply when you’ve got nothing😅

dodgy_bagel ,

Hey! You read all of my comment this time. Thank you for extending the bare minimum of effort. In return, I’ll read your comments; It’s a reciprocal relationship.

So, in your view, elections change nothing and we’re all sheeple. True change will occur during the revolution; elections have no consequences. Answer me this:

For a trans woman, living in the American South, would another Trump presidency lower quality of life for her, raise it, or would it stay roughly the same?

PsyDoctah9Jah ,
@PsyDoctah9Jah@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not trans so I couldn’t say. I’d have to do research.

I can say the continued LGBTQIALMNOPQRSTUV divisive behaviors aren’t doing anyone any favors. As long as its a separation, things will never evolve. Because they are treating certain sexual orientations as “special” when the root of that is a lack of. If being LGBTQIALMNOP wasn’t seen as “other” and just as regular as “straight” we wouldn’t have these silly debates and ignorant mindsets.

People have the right to live and exists, without needing an explanation for why they deserve to do so. This planet is so wicked and demonic. Hating someone because their sexual orientation, skin complexion, gender differs from your wheelhouse is insanity. Low intelligence.

I haven’t been alive long, yet long enough, I can’t think of 1 major issue that negatively impacted my life based on who was or wasn’t president. Fucked up, is fucked up, no matter whose in that chair. NONE of the past president’s have demonstrated anything on a higher level. They play to your emotions and it’s hilarious to sit back and watch people justifying bs…for generations they piss on your leg and tell you it’s raining… but I’m the conspiracy theorist for grabbing an umbrella… got it.

Also, if I’m anywhere,south north, ignorance is ignorance hate is hate. I don’t think it’s restricted to the south. I’m not trans but if the south was presenting serious issues, I’d be standing my ground, or relocating. Bullies stop being bullies when you fight back!

dodgy_bagel , (edited )

…Okay. Vibe check failed.

Based on what you wrote, I’m almost certain you can’t vote, so the topic is moot.

If you’re actually an adult… That’s sad.

The idea that there wouldn’t be bigotry if nobody made it a big deal is conservative Regan era white racism that you picked up from your parents. Maybe your grandparents.

The idea that “move or fight” are your two solutions is an infantile mindset. Why should I move away from the place of my birth because of who I am? To abandon my family and weaken my economic standing? How could I fight a man who wants to kick my teeth in because he found out I’m a tranny? What do I do when an employer denies me a job because I’m “not a good fit”?

You think presidents have no impact on our lives. You think Carter would have killed the same number of queers. You think Mondale would have had the same war on drugs. You think Gore would have loosened EPA regulations. You think Lieberman would have slashed corporate taxes. You think McCain and Romney would have appointed sane justices; that gay marriage would be legal. You think Clinton would have appointed anti abortion justices.

Every elder gay I know lost multiple friends in the 80s. My life was changed because of the Iraq war. The weather in my area is more erratic because of climate change. Who I was allowed to marry was changed by the obergefell decision. My ability to continue with IVF treatment was ceased due to the abortion ban.

No president has failed to affect my life. To say that they haven’t affected yours betrays your naivete, your privilege, or both.

PsyDoctah9Jah ,
@PsyDoctah9Jah@lemmy.world avatar

@Pastabatman 😅… you read my comment & thought I’d engage in political banter with you😅 don’t insult my intelligence😆. Only to reply with political comparisons. Tells me you didn’t comprehend. Any retorts rooted in political jargon tells me the message was lost. The analogy isn’t exhaustive…nor was it used as direct synonyms for Biden & Trump…

Perhaps this will help bring it home…a quarter…is still a quarter no matter hown you flip it, or what side it lands on… you still engaged in commerce…

Yall gotta stop reading stuff online and cherry picking whatever triggered your emotion, being willfully obtuse, dismissing everything before during and after lol it’s so funny😆

@dodgy_bagel - I just skipped to the latter part of your reply. Nothing happens until, if ever, the masses can have a common understanding that is based on truth. Expecting the very thing that oppresses you to free you is asinine. Expecting a broken system, a broken process to fix itself is less than smart… you’ve been hoodwinked and bamboozled, the fix was in and has been in for generations. It’s nonsense once you unpack it all and once you do you see the world, things, as they are, and not as they should be. All the brilliant minds in the world and THESE two are your options 🤣😂 why are people so content on elderly people, specifically old white males in office. Living on this planet is definitely interesting to observe…I just smh🙄 what good do your words do if they can’t understand you…

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Don’t care, still voting Stein.

Olhonestjim ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8307753b-381b-4886-98de-591f4531662b.jpeg

Then you’re a fool. Nobodies like her do not get randomly seated at Putin’s table without a reason.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

What was the reason?

A_Random_Idiot ,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

Olhonestjim ,

Maybe so. On the other hand, would a useful idiot get a seat at that table?

nyctre ,

Yes? Idiots are even easier to control than people you are blackmailing or paying off.

A_Random_Idiot ,

yep. They dont have any fear cause they dont think they’re doing anything wrong, They are just living up to the expectations of the person that they think obviously respects them and “helps” them.

A_Random_Idiot ,

you would be surprised at how far a useful idiot would go for you, all for a seat at a table and a pat on the head.

Hell, look at what Trumps done for Russia with regard towards destroying our democracy and destabilizing our country, all because Putin gave him a few puffed up words of fake praise.

Olhonestjim , (edited )

No, I think it takes a little more than that. She craves legitimacy, and he gave her a taste of it. I think she is in on it. She runs when doing so will cause the most damage.

A_Random_Idiot ,

Yes, exactly.

a pat on the head and some puffed up words.

Olhonestjim ,

You could be right. That could be all she is. I feel like she’s deeper in, but I can’t prove it. Either way, she is totally compromised and unqualified to lead this country, and her fans need to realize it before it’s too late.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Funny, that’s what I call people who parrot Democrat propaganda.

A_Random_Idiot ,

Really living up to that Project part of GOP, eh?

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

What makes you think that I’m part of the GOP? There are a lot of people on the left who disagree with the Democrats.

AFC1886VCC ,

Image provided completely without context.

She sat at a table with Putin once, so what? Many US and European politicians have met him and sat with him at various summits over the years. I can find an image of Biden shaking Putin’s hand and smiling. Shock!

Utterly meaningless nonsense.

Olhonestjim , (edited )

That image is the context. She has never been important. She has never held political power at any level. She is not a politician. She is no ambassador or diplomat. She’s a nobody who keeps failing to be elected only to the highest office on the planet. She isn’t an almost-Hillary, she’s a barely-not-Vermin-Supreme. She has zero legitimate business at a table with Putin.

Nobody, absolutely nobody gets seated at the same table as Putin without a damn good reason. Look who sits at his right hand; American traitor general and conspirator Micheal Flynn. The only way she got a seat with Putin’s entourage is if she gave him something for it. What did she give? Well, she siphoned votes away from Hillary at the last minute.

AFC1886VCC ,

You said it yourself, nobody gets seated at the same table as Putin without a good reason. So what is the context? When was this photo taken, where was it, and what was the event?

Olhonestjim , (edited )

What? Internet’s right in front of you and you’re unwilling to make the effort to discredit me? If you think those questions have uncomfortable answers for me, you should do the work yourself. I wonder what you’ll find?

I fail to see how your questions are all that relevant. The context is, she is a nobody, and nobodies do not get seated randomly at tables with dictators of superpowers, who have at their right hand traitor general of the same nation as the nobody.

AFC1886VCC ,

I have no idea where to look for the context, I thought you might know since you posted the image. If you can find out any information about it, feel free to share it. Otherwise, I just consider it bullshit disinformation.

Olhonestjim ,

Oh my gosh I had to Google “Putin and Jill Stein” and scroll all the way down to the first article that popped up and my fingers hurt. So. Bad.

nbcnews.com/…/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n…

HawlSera ,

The dying geriatric insane old pedophile or the dying geriatric insane old pedophile who is being used to enact Project 2025

Decisions, decisions…

Voting Biden!

lugal ,

I will never vote Democrats!

Since I do not intend to move to the US but I vote the lesser of several evils here in Europe

ZombiFrancis ,

I wonder how many of the dyed-in-the-wool DNC supporters would stay home or vote third party if Biden wasn’t the candidate chosen at the convention.

rwhitisissle ,

This is the thing. People like to blame Berniebros and whatnot for Clinton’s loss in '16, but the reality is that the centrist Democrats that vote for the party’s corporate-backed candidate wouldn’t vote for a progressive one, so even if Bernie had won the nomination, he probably still would have lost because he would have lost the support of these DNC hardliners. I heard people literally say in '16 that if Bernie had somehow won the nomination over Hillary that they would have just stayed home. It’s wild to think how ideologically balkanized the Democratic party is, with so many people fervently belonging to the leftist minority that holds their nose every election to vote for another mediocre person whose best attributes are being “not an outright fascist” versus the people who will never vote for a truly left wing candidate because they’re fiscally conservative but socially liberal and just allergic to compromising in the same way that they’ve forced the leftists in their party to do since forever.

ZombiFrancis ,

What is sad is the American people DID vote for progressive policy. The problem is American politicians represent their donors, and turned their backs on their constituents.

There is no expectation for an elected Democrat to align with their party platform. Likewise no one can or should expect a Republican to break from their party. Any reliance on either is a fool’s errand.

I mean about 70% of Americans support at least a public option for health insurance. Yet there is no pathway forward for 70% of Americans with either party.

So it sucks that such an intransigent faction isn’t even representative.

Ascend910 ,

I just want Taiwan to reunify with China, unfortunately no party in us supports that :(

SkunkWorkz ,

426

feedum_sneedson ,

必须旗帜鲜明地反对动乱

Luminocta ,

Taiwan number one!

Ascend910 ,

Number one province under Beijing

Luminocta ,

You wish! You guys are jealous the Taiwanese are better at being a country than you. So the only logical thing to do is take them down to your level to feel better about yourselves. Taiwan number one!

Ascend910 ,

Taiwan is a province of China and has always been so. You are just an ignorant westerner who knows nothing about history or international relations. Your government only supports Taiwan because they need a useful tool to annoy China, not because they care about the welfare of the Taiwanese people. They would abandon you in a heartbeat if it served their interests elsewhere. But don’t worry, I’m sure the Chinese will take good care of them once they liberate that little island from its fake independence movement.

Luminocta ,

My government, which you know nothing about clearly, is at the very least not an oppressive bully that is China. Taiwan number one!

boatsnhos931 ,

Can I use your Temu discount

hungryphrog ,

please tell me this isn’t serious

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