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bhamlin ,

I came here to show love for Robertson, but it looks like I didn’t need to. You guys are the best. 😁

jtk ,
@jtk@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I don’t think I’ve ever encountered one, but I can see their value. Where are they used?

bhamlin ,

Mostly in construction. Robertson was a Canadian, and you see them a lot in Canada. In the US largely they use Phillips or something that looks like Phillips and a six-lobed star shape.

I like Robertson because the bits are much less fragile, and very inexpensive. They’re also much less likely to strip out a screw with a square hole than something that needs little pieces of metal sticking into the bit hole.

ThrowawaySobriquet ,

Phillips are for boring fuckin normies who can’t chooch

rugburn ,

Speaking of chooch, anyone know what’s up with AvE?

Ilovethebomb ,

Still a nutter, as far as I know.

rugburn ,

He hasn’t put out a new video in over a month

Ilovethebomb ,

I lost interest in what he had to say after he came out in support of the convoy protests.

Peppycito ,

He always was on about ‘having a laugh in the shop’ and then broke the Cardinal rule, never talk religion or politics at work.

Ilovethebomb ,

Yup. Not what I come to YouTube for at all.

KnightontheSun ,

In one of his last video he was asking for monies for some new project. I’d gather he’s working on that.

I like some of the stuff he does, but his rants during covid made me take a step back. If he stays away from the political garbage, I can still tolerate him, but not enough to give him any money.

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

Yeah, that was a sad spiral to watch.

altima_neo ,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Aside from going out of his mind during covid?

Not unlike WranglerStar.

ThrowawaySobriquet ,

I kinda fell out when he started getting Grumpy, but god damn the man could turn a phrase. I miss the shitty tool teardowns

altima_neo ,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Yeah, that was his peak. The tool teardowns were interesting.

The Torque Test channel is kinda close in a similar vein, but not quite the same.

ThrowawaySobriquet ,

I’ll have to check them out. If you like teardowns and deep dives on random consumer product engineering, I’d recommend Technology Connections. Dude puts out quality

Ilovethebomb ,

Torque Test are very matter of fact and to the point, a very science and testing based channel.

Well worth watching if you plan on spending money on power tools.

thechadwick ,

Phew… and what a dive that was. What a waste of a channel. I don’t mind the AvE stuff nearly as much as the insufferable persecution complex of WS though.

altima_neo ,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Yeah, his old US Forest Service videos were entertaining to watch, even if they turned out to be bullshit. But biking it to Portland, armed and scared of downtown was ridiculous. Not to mention his man servant and all the other weird shit he had going on. And even weirder were the traps he was showing tutorials on how to make.

cheeseburger ,
@cheeseburger@lemmy.ca avatar

Had to unsub and strike him from my feed when he started cheering for the “freedom convoy” donkeys a while back. Revealed himself to be a hopelessly stupid and ignorant bumblefuck in my book. Fuck him.

starman , (edited )
@starman@programming.dev avatar

Pozidriv is clearly superior to Phillips

Agent641 ,

Why?

starman ,
@starman@programming.dev avatar

It was designed to allow more torque to be applied and greater engagement than Phillips drives. As a result, the Pozidriv is less likely to cam out.

Red_October ,

IIRC that was a design feature of Phillips screws, not a flaw. Deliberately designed to limit torque to avoid over-tightening.

FilterItOut ,

Interestingly, it was an accidental feature. The original patent application makes no mention of it, but 9 years later they added language about it camming out to the second patent application. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_out

lud ,

Bug >> feature

mariusafa ,

In my experience pozidrive slips more than Philips, worst experience cap IMO

WhimsicalSofa ,

All IKEA furniture uses Pozidriv (no “e”, it’s a trademark). Not going to say if that’s good or bad, but operating a Pozidriv with a Phillips is always going to be terrible.

nickwitha_k ,

Pozidriv is basically Philips++.

JusticeForPorygon ,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t see how square/triangle worldbt be ideal. They don’t look like they’d strip nearly as bad

AtHeartEngineer ,
@AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

World’bt

Excrubulent ,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

I believe it’s *worldb’t. Short for world butt.

xia ,

Uh oh… I sense an AI image incoming.

Gabu ,

Slot screws are the worst of them all…

MIDItheKID ,

I hate slot screws because they are easy to slip out of, and the place that I find them the most is always outlet covers. Like… What the fuck? Why are you gonna put the most easy to slip out of screw next to the most dangerous to slip into hole?!

Gabu ,

What, you don’t like playing with sparklers next to a box of dynamite?

gamermanh ,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I, too, do all of my electrical work without shutting off the breakers. Safety is for losers

MIDItheKID ,

I don’t do electrical work. I’m usually taking the outlet covers off for painting walls. And I like to paint with the lights on.

Schlemmy ,

Torx master race has entered the chat.

MiDaBa ,

Literally the only people who I hear say negative things about Torx / star bits are people who don’t own a good Torx driver set. They don’t strip easily (using the correct size) and they don’t slip.

CooperRedArmyDog ,

my dislike of them is soly because the multi tools I carry do not usualy have bits for them.

Sloogs ,

You’ll call a Phillips a Phillips but not a Robertson a Robertson or an Allen an Allen, smh

John_McMurray ,

Those aren’t Robertson, they’re Square, it’s different, Robertson has a taper, square doesn’t.

Skkorm ,

In Canada, all square screws are called Robinson. If you go into a hardware store and ask for square head screws, the worker will correct you and say “the Robinsons are this way”.

It’s just regional.

John_McMurray ,

They are literally two different things, and it’s Robertson, not Robinson. Yes, saying “square” in Canada will get you Robertson, as no one uses Square up north.

YungOnions ,

What the actual fuck is a ‘S type’ screw? What purpose does that have that another normal screw type cannot provide? What madness is this?!

Gorely ,

Easy to screw closed but not open. Gotta think about it in 3 dimensions. They are used in US bathroom stalls.

Opisek , (edited )

Why though? Do they think a pervert will go and unscrew doors? I’d argue the occupant would notice before it’s all unscrewed. Also, kicking it down might just be faster.

Cool concept though, but as person who loves repairing their stuff, I must say f it.

Red_October ,

It’s less pervert prevention and more vandalism resistance.

Opisek ,

Ah I understand. So like people just unscrewing things out of boredom?

UnfortunateShort ,

I firmly believe that without these screws, there would actually be less vandalism. Because of theft.

anlumo ,

I’ve seen them used in power supplies that are not supposed to be user-servicable.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Stops tampering. Nowadays they have learned that people have hex sets so they are moving to security hex.

Akasazh ,
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To elaborate: it’s in 3d, the s curve is a ramp. The regular screwdriver slots in when turned clockwise, but has no purchase the other way round. It slips out because the ramp lifts the screwdriver out of the screw.

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MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

You can screw but can’t unscrew because it lifts the driver.

adamantris ,
@adamantris@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Apparently I don’t know shit about handywork since everyone here is swooning about Torx and I don’t even have an idea what they are

Ginger666 ,

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UnfortunateShort ,

The best goddamn type of screw you will ever screw. No slipping, no stripping - you torque, it goes in.

FryHyde ,

Cue all the Canadians pretending anyone gives a shit about their goofy chamfered square deck screws.

Taniwha420 ,

I don’t know what you’re talking about. They’re naturally superior.

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

My boy, you do NOT do Robinson dirty like that.

nxdefiant ,

Square wishing he was as famous as Phillips, sad.

Intralexical ,

“Robinson”!?!

I’m sorry but you’re going to have to hand in your passport.

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

Oh no! I am forever shamed 😭

Zink ,

I submit that every screw in the world should be the six lobe slotted. For the stuff that’s not tamper-resistant, anyway.

You have the six lobe for actually building things, because fuck Phillips head screws, and the slot for convenience where you could use anything from a coin to a knife.

Here in the US, certain brands of deck screws for outdoor use are six lobe and they come with the driver bit in the box because everybody has the damn Phillips and flat head screwdrivers! But to be fair, if you have a bunch of tools you probably also have a set of torx drivers.

Skkorm , (edited )

Translated into Albertan:

Slotted = Flathead. Square = Robertson. 6 lobe = Torx

Revan343 ,

Fuck Phillips screws

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

If they aren’t made of material that is so easy to strip, they give you a lot more purchase than flat-heads.

Revan343 ,

They are specifically designed to cam out at high torque.

Robertson screws are where it’s at

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