Yeah, those damned marijuana cigarette smokers are all whippersnappers, just bad eggs all around! I would never condone ANY devils lettuce, just say “Fiddlesticks to you!”
I support marijuana legalization, but this argument doesn’t work. The reality is that we all pay a price when people do certain things. It would be naive in the extreme to argue, for example, that opioids haven’t had a very negative impact on society as a whole. Or think about smoking cigarettes. How much does society pay for all the health problems it causes? Drinking? How much do we all pay for the chaos alcohol can cause, the domestic issues it creates, the broken families, the people killed by drunk drivers? This ain’t the wild west, you can’t just live and let live anymore in a world of 8 billion people.
People need to be allowed to enjoy their lives even if it has a cost. I’m not advocating for driving while under the influence. I’m advocating for being able to make your own choices about your own health. I think it goes further than just drugs. We even make laws preventing people from swimming in public water because they could drown. Shit happens. We can’t let cost and perfect safety ruin all the fun in the world. Just because some people can’t handle it, doesn’t mean it should be removed from life entirely.
Sure. We will have to be willing to pay the price as a society, and that’s a hard sell for people who don’t choose to do those things. Probably worth reiterating that we actually do restrict people from swimming in certain places. Why? Because it’s too dangerous and also puts rescuers at risk. You might say, “well just let them drown”, but that seems rather callous in my opinion. I suppose the boring answer like usual is finding a middle ground where most interested parties are unhappy with the compromise.
I imagine everyone has some slightly risky things they like to do with their free time. The way to sell it is to recognize that we’re all paying for something else other people want to do in some way or another that we don’t take advantage of ourselves. By collectively contributing to society, we can make this whole experience of life worth living for everyone. I, personally, don’t want to be forced into a plastic bubble of safety for my entire life.
You can make the argument that one can become dependent on weed despite it having no addictive properties, but you can also make that argument about weird shit like eating toilet paper or playing video games.
I’ve done this regularly. Went from every day use to quitting for a year before becoming a teacher, and have regularly stopped for 6 months to a year for various reasons since.
You’re getting the upvotes in this thread because that other dude is off, but weed is definitely addictive. Or maybe you don’t consider gambling addictive because neither necessarily have a chemical component to the addictiveness.
There are also side effects to quitting after prolonged use.
As someone who’s drank alcohol and smoked cannabis, yeah alcohol is absolutely more dangerous/obstructive to normal function but no one bats an eye if you go home after work and have a couple beers.
Hell when I was in the military it was practically expected that you were going to show up to work hungover since there wasn’t fuck all to do.
Smoke a joint on leave? Kicked out, you’re the worst soldier/sailor/marine/airman that’s ever existed.
It’s an absolute joke that alcohol is considered safe enough to be legal but cannabis isn’t. Of the two, alcohol should be the illegal one.
Yup. Didn’t touch anything until after I ETS’d. Except tobacco and booze, which were basically… subsidized? Yeah, heavily subsidized by the exchange stores in the 90s. A carton of marlboros was $10 lol. I literally remember people bitching and moaning when it went up a dollar shortly before I left the army. Surreal.
Or… you just ask for seeds from somebody already with plants. Buying and trading may be illegal… handing out seeds is not buying or trading.
I’m pretty anti- smoking in general because i don’t think people consider those around them when they do smoke… but your logic has been quite silly. Especially after being caught in a blatant lie.
And yet caffeine is more addictive with stronger withdrawal effects.
You should give up, it’s clear to everyone that you’ve never used the substance and have all your information from drug-war era reefer madness propaganda.
Again, I didn’t say all countries follow objective morality (Basically countries that violate human rights, which is basically the closest thing to a codified objective morality we have)
Or they’re sick of seeing people sentenced to prison for smoking a plant that isn’t even as intoxicating as the socially acceptable and fully legal alcohol.
I don’t smoke anymore, thanks. Used to, but don’t anymore. Any evidence of it being poison? No? Aww, you’re just lashing out like a kid then, I’ll stop responding
There’s something deeply sad in you’re replies, just a lack of compassion and a willingness to consider another viewpoint, with a faint hint of xenophobia 🙈🙉🙊
Okay I’ve had enough it’s time for me to tell you that you are completely out of touch with reality. Now that you know this, you can overcome your ignorance with a little awareness. Good luck, it’s going to be a bit of a battle to get your perceptions straightened out.
It’s just bewildering to prohibit a plant that is easy to grow, serves a lot of uses, and doesn’t easily get you killed.
I’m also in Europe, and still trying to cope with the fact that I got into trouble with the law for tending a garden. Well I guess at least it re-radicalized me for all it’s worth.
If there is anything new for Lemmy as far as I have joined, it’s always the heckin’ instance wars, just pick one and be happy with it Also, there are a lot of instances that require written stuff for joining as an extra filter to avoid bots and trolls ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Exactly! To be fair, it did show pictures first, but I wasn’t paying attention to their names. Then when you actually choose you can only see the names and they both sound kinda like female names. I don’t think I was the only one who made that mistake.
Beehaw’s mods are definitely not Reddit-like. They’re hard on enforcing the “be nice” rule, so even veiled personal attacks are off the table, and you better be nice to the mods too, or they’ll show you the door.
Whether that aligns more or less with what you’re looking for… you decide. As you said, it’s the nice thing about the Fediverse 🙂
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