Lets call this what it really is: asset stripping.
Taking the finances of the many, for very little service, only to make those elites in large corporations so much richer. These corporations should remember the history of Ratner’s
What’s the speed? Do you have a shitty 10mbps connection like my parents? Then WiFi, because you’re easily saturating that line either way.
Do you have gigabit? Then Ethernet, but then again getting like 600mbps wirelessly is good enough.
Biggest thing is having GOOD coverage. My house has multiple access points so that my connection is great everywhere. People with a shitty ISP router shoved in the cupboard in their basement make no sense lol.
What crap are you doing that so intensive WiFi causes latency? It’s essentially a negligible difference unless you are saturating the signal. We’re taking less than 3ms for a reliable round trip.
There are lots of factors that can cause jitter on WiFi, and it’s mostly outside of your control if you’re living somewhere more densely populated. My apartment randomly gets a lot of noise, and as a result my WiFi starts to get unacceptable amounts of packet loss and jitter. It doesn’t happen often enough to motivate the effort for me to go around signal analyzing, but still…
No more “why’s it down now”; no deauth attacks; no weird outages when highway traffic spikes from nav\music-streaming users getting tower timeouts that cause their WiFi to aggressively cry out for every known SSID.
With wired connections, I set it up once & it keeps working. With WiFi, it’s a constant shouting match version of the Telephone game, with openly malicious actors literally headquartered a few blocks away.
I’m pretty sure it’s wifi from the neighbours interfering. I can’t be bothered to deal with that, not when I have a cable laying around. Plus, no matter what, a cable will always be more stable than wifi
and playing video games. No offense, but did you read the whole comment? I need good latency for my games and I need it while downloading a bunch of other stuff. Idk if you’ve ever tried downloading a few torrents while gaming, but it’ll definitely have an impact. Especially if you’re on WiFi.
You’re probably right, but I’m not a power user and nor do I care to be. I can make all my problems go away by just plugging in a cable and making sure I have good Internet otherwise. That’s my point and what matters to me in this discussion
Wi-Fi has constant retransmissions. This adds perceptible latency because the checksum check, turnaround, and packet transmission add a lot of time compared to the speed of light through air across 3 meters.
Packet loss really, and the latency and jitter said loss can contribute to.
Radio waves go faster (speed of light) than through a medium (copper). Not that it matters at such a small scale, but it’s helpful to have a good picture of the elements at work here. The further you are from the receiving point, the more obstacles (matter) that can obstruct it. But in ideal conditions WiFi is better than most people think. Replicating those ideal conditions though…
Radio waves go faster (speed of light) than through a medium (copper).
Except that copper ethernet is baseband, so it’s not radio waves. WiFi is still faster than copper AFAIK (there was a huge debate about this between youtubers not that long ago), at least for signalling, but the difference is smaller than you think. light (which is EM, the same waves as radio/WiFi) through glass is about 2/3rds c (aka the speed of light), and it’s actually a lot slower than ethernet or WiFi for propagation delay, however, WiFi must use CSMA/CA as well as other tricks to ensure it doesn’t step on itself, and that it doesn’t step on other sources of radio interference (Microwave ovens, wireless controllers (like xbox), bluetooth, zigbee, etc, on 2.4Ghz and stuff like RADAR on 5Ghz). It’s half-duplex, so only one station can transmit at a time, hense CSMA/CA being required, where ethernet doesn’t need any collision avoidance or detection except for rare cases of 10/100 half duplex, all gigabit is full duplex. Half duplex on wireline networks is basically eliminated at this point, so it’s little more than a footnote.
Factoring all this in, getting the signal down the line, WiFi loses in almost every case, due to all the considerations it needs to take into account.
I had 100mbps ethernet because incompetent ISP worker who crimped only two pairs out of four. And I had AFAIR 150mbps plan! Don’t know what to wish for that idiot.
I think people care about different things, networking might not be something they’re interested in so aren’t interested in spending time learning about it. Where as when you are interested in it it’s not so hard to read, watch videos about it and experiment with it. At least that’s generally how I find these things work.
But when your electricity goes out, do you even consider whether it’s the power plant, substation, distribution station, or individual service drop that is the problem? Probably not. But I’m sure many power line technicians see the phrase “my power’s out” in the same way tech-savvy people see the phrase “my wifi’s out”.
I consider those if only cause it may give me an idea of when power will come back on. Ill even drive around to see how much is out or if i can find repair crews.
I’m sure you driving around to find a random power truck and asking them to fix your power faster is much appreciated by the people fixing it… I’m sure they don’t make fun of you or threaten you in anyway after you drive off while they have to be out in the weather doing their job.
I said looking for repair crews said nothing about bugging them, that was your jump in logic. If I know powers down in my block then if I see a repair crew about a block away I can assume power will be on in about an hour or so. Plus I usually am grabbing food at the same time.
Soooo, ya do exactly what I said in last comment… there is a number to call for power outages. They guys in the truck are on call to a problem, you are just annoying them.
How is me driving by while going to get food bugging them? They dont even have to close a lane 70 percent of the time, and when they do its cause someone wrapped their truck around a post.
To quote you “Ill even drive around to see how much is out or if i can find repair crews.”… so now you are saying you drive around to find a repair crew but just to look at them real good before getting McDonald’s… even if that’s the case they still hate you but you certainly are one of those people who stop them and ask about “your” power.
Dude theres like 2 fucking streets where the lines could be out, both towards food. But youve built this whole fucking idea avout me, I aint driving around like some jackass harassin random ass workers. If the powers out for my block its either for regular maintenance or a bob cat backed up into a pole again. I know when its for regular maintence cause the power company sends out a notice ahead of time.
Loom dude im just gonna drop this, your being a cunt and it aint getting nowhere.
A very large portion of people who use electricity everyday have never given a single thought to where their power comes from. They are the same folks who feel like they are superior plugging in their Tesla and knowing they are making a difference… while the coal plant drops another traincar to charge it up.
The people who bitch the loudest are always the ones who have absolutely no clue how things actually work and that every single decision is give/take. And if you try to explain you are (insert ism/ist). Tards gonna tard. Way she goes, fuckin way she goes.
How much of that is in your control to diagnose, let alone fix? If the neighbours are out too, that means it’s already out of your hands.
When it comes to “the internet is down”, much of the time it is something within your control, whether or not you know that. It’s not a very good analogy imo.
When it comes to “the internet is down”, much of the time it is something within your control
This really isn’t true anymore. Most people use all-in-one modem+router+AP. I’d guess that unless you’re one to tinker with your router, there’s a much better chance you’ve tripped a breaker or GFCI than there is that you’ve somehow broken your home wifi.
Them: “The WiFi is down.”
Me: ‘… No, I still see the TV & the laptop & Pi, on the network.’
Them: “I can’t connect to Flipboard.”
Me: ‘Ohhh, the internet is down. It’s probably at the cable modem. Wait a moment for it to failover to wireless, then try again.’
Them: “Yep, now the WiFi is back.”
Most consumer devices these days, if they detect the internet is down over a wifi connection (e.g. by inability to reach 1.1.1.1), will automatically disconnect from that wifi network, or at least show the same UI as if it had.
Pedantic but correct. Only your connection to the internet is down.
Even when there are massive “internet outages” sometimes it’s just DNS being bad. The internet works just fine, it’s just not working in a way that you can make use of it.
I used to work for spectrum. I’d say around 60% of people legit do not know the difference between wifi and Internet. No wifi means no Internet, to them. Makes some trouble shooting harder
The sheer amount of engineering, FCC regulations, and wizardry that goes into making 802.11 fast is insane. It feels weird seeing so much data get shoved through radio waves which are still subject to only one transmission at a time which is why we have stuff like CSMA/CA and MIMO
802.15.4a/ab/ac, seems even weirder, given what we’ve become used to with AM/FM signaling modes.
After the usual “Huh, that seems like a clever way to send signals” reaction, a closer perusal of the tech & its established industrial capabilities, reveals Surface penetrating radar for machine vision & medical imaging, P2P, P2MP, local file-exchange, low-power low-latency streaming, greater range than bluetooth, greater interference resistance than WiFi, & reduced airtime per Mb, at lower emission power than a hair dryer or cellphone.
Gee, I wonder why it got forcibly channeled into exclusively device-to-device location pings, with no direct radio access or firmware, available to devs?
Seriously, go look at what the military, industrial, security, & medical sectors have already been doing with UWB, then look at the specs for the compact chipsets & SOCs released since 2017, & then look at what BMW, Apple, Google, & Samsung are doing with it. Oh yay, Airtags. I mean, they do work, but they’re about 1/1000th of what the U1 could do, if app devs had access to the radio instead of being gatekept behind the FindMy device-to-device services.
Even plain old wifi is fascinating in terms of signaling, they use ofdm, or orthogonal frequency division multiplexing to encode data. The whole concept is crazy.
To summarize, the waveform (sine wave) is measured by degrees from zero, where 90 is the peak, 180 is when it crosses the middle line again, 270 is the trough, and at 360 it returns to zero. What OFDM does is interrupt the normal sine wave and jump from 90 to 180 to encode bits.
What gets crazier is that this is divided into dozens of different positions that represent different bit encodings. Then they go more crazy and run… I think it’s 10 by 2mhz wide carriers, all doing this same thing (for a 20mhz wide channel width) to encode more data into the bandwidth.
Then they get more crazy and implement AM on top of it, so you get high power OFDM and low power OFDM divisions that can do upwards of double the symbols on the same carrier.
The wizardry to make all this work is insane, and the fact that we’ve mastered it to the point where we can sell wifi cards for something like $20 USD just kind of blows my mind. This is crazy to me!
I’ll never understand why people put Steve Jobs on a pedestal. He might have been a very astute businessman , but by all accounts he was a horrible human being and a colossal prick.
That’s more fitting. It’s a miss on Steve Jobs though. For one he didn’t kill himself, cancer did. And for another, just because he could be a prick doesn’t make him a bad person worth killing.
He had a very treatable cancer that was found in the early stages and was given an excellent prognosis, but in his infinite megalomaniac manner he decided he knew better than the doctors and opted to treat his cancer at home with homeopathic remedies. His home made new age “cures” clearly didn’t work and by the time he finally decided to get proper treatment his cancer had metastasized and he was beyond help… sounds to me like he played a large hand in his own demise so the joke plays.
Yeah I get what you’re saying. It’s still something entirely different to bomb yourself to death vs. to not do enough to stop a disease. And even with all the haters in here, I don’t think any reasonable person would want Steve Jobs dead, it’s not like he murdered people.
He did nothing to stop the disease and actively rejected treatment and advice from medical professionals because he thought he knew better. So while this isn’t the same as actively killing oneself, he is still more than likely responsible for his own death due to his own actions (or inaction).
Sure, if you say so. On a different note, I recently watched Paradise on Netflix, where you can basically live forever if you’re rich enough. In the background someone says on tv at one point something like “the climate crisis has been solved by the top 5 richest people”, which made me laugh quite a bit.
Tbf the top 5 richest people could do theoretically do a lot to solve the climate crisis, but it would mean ceasing to be the top 5 richest people, and I’m disillusioned of them ever doing so voluntarily
I found it funny because it’s probably true. And since they live forever in the movie they were motivated to fix the planet for themselves. Not sure if that came across, but that’s what I meant.
Getting a treatable cancer and then choosing to do nothing about it other than eat fruit and refuse proper medical care is tantamount to killing yourself IMO.
Iono, the kind of prick he was (narcissist who traumatized his own daughter and headed a company which needed suicide nets for the workers who made their product), paired with the fact that he signed his own death from his own deliberate delusions makes me conclude he did deserve to die, in more than one sense of the word ‘deserve’.
From what I’ve read he definitely had a strong personality and I don’t think anyone sees him as flawless. But that made for some very funny moments. And he definitely was the person that Apple needed at that time.
Strong is one way to wash over his narcissism, delusions, and the abuse he doled out. And you’re wrong, there’s plenty of people who take the washing-over to a degree where they think he was a genius above reproach. Yeah, let’s focus on the funny moments and brush all that abuse and whatnot under the rug, that’s better. I’m so glad a company got to profit from a sociopath’s leadership in the end, gives me the fuzzies. Could you imagine giving up iphones and iOS for some alternative imaginary version of those products? Oh my.
He’s really awful too, or at the very least he used to be.
He’s done a lot of rebranding himself as being a great guy as of late, and put his money towards some great causes.
But when he was in charge of Microsoft he’d openly treat people like shit, openly steal things, openly do anticompetitive and illegal business practices, deliberately put small companies out of business, and openly bribe politicians to look the other way as he built his illegally-gained business empire.
The technology landscape today is vastly more closed and monopolised because of his/MS’s actions.
If you accept his research money (which people don’t seem to do anymore) there are so many strings attached that if you find something you’ll probably be liable even if you give it all up for free.
I’m still waiting for something good coming out of his pocket money spendings for good causes.
Don’t forget how much MS lobbied countries all over the world to spend public money on MS products. Plus the anticompetitive shenanigans, it’s more of an our money.
Got removed from Microsoft for propositioning female employees for sex
Used Microsoft’s market position to kill off any competition. Remember Netscape?
His foundation pushed hard to make the COVID vaccines intellectual property of drug manufacturers so they would get richer, leaving the world dependent on them for doses instead of allowing everyone to produce it.
Don’t forget the incessant lobbying for charter schools even though nobody wants them and there’s no research to suggest they are better than the public system.
With money he got from a monopoly, meaning the money he took plus the deadweight loss are even worse for humanity. Computers would be even better today if it wasn’t for him, and we would’ve produced better things than we have today.
Monopolists “giving back” is insidious because it’s much easier to see what they gave us than what they took away.
I agree with you but he’s not on the same page as Steve Jobs, not in my book. Billionaires can’t exist in a fair system so they’re existence isn’t justified but comparatively speaking he is better than Jobs
We may have better computers but Malaria may be more of an issue, whereas without Jobs nothing of note would be missing other too many biopics.
Malaria is still around though, spending pocket change for a cause doesn’t mean it’s helping (especially with all the strings attached if you actually get a grant).
Malaria will be beaten with classic research. I mean it’s still all around…
The standardization of operating systems was an important step though. If there were hundreds of different OS’s on the market, then the PC generation would have stalled. The fact that there were basically only three dominant platforms meant that we could have market stability.
It’s common sense. If you have hundreds of operating systems, then it becomes a pain to get the right software. First, developers are discouraged because they don’t know what platform will be best to develop on and users will be discouraged because they might need to install twenty different OS partitions in order to run the software they want to run.
No offense but no it is not common sense. The economics of monopolies have been studied for centuries, including any benefit from standardization (like with Standard Oil). It creates a costly deadweight loss.
For what it’s worth I was there, and the handful of OSes in the 1980s (not 20) weren’t as problematic as the monopoly later. It seems like common sense to me that today’s multiple browsers are better than IE standardization was.
There is something fascinating about getting a glimpse of how truly complex and incomprehensible the world is. There’s a reason Fire and Water are so hard to replicate with mathematical processors (in CGI)
Aside from the boring story I wasn’t impressed by the 48fps and optical abberations of water when compared to real life. I don’t believe we “figured that shit out” yet.
Pretty sure cameron is playing the long con with this one. We got “Avatar the last Airbender” around the same time “Avatar” came out. The first Avatar was Earth Kingdom. This most recent was Water Kingdom. So it stands to reason the next two are Wind and Fire, right?
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