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bjoern_tantau , (edited )
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And on the other side we have the Baldur’s Gate actors praising Larian for hiring intimacy coordinators and not requiring themselves to mocap the sex scenes.

Edit: Ah, just saw that this is addressed at the end of the article.

Lemminary ,

intimacy coordinators

Yes, quite. I’m a regular practitioner of touch-stimulated emotional relief aided by intimacy content distributors on the digital nexus of information.

otp ,

Do you put that on your resumé?

Lemminary ,

It’s the first line.

Speculater ,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

Rookie. It should be in the header.

BuboScandiacus ,

Intimacy coordinators ?

TexasDrunk ,

That’s someone whose job is to liaise and advocate for actors to the production crew for intimate scenes, especially nude and sex scenes.

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

People who help other people who work on scenes that involve intimacy to make the whole process as pleasant as possible for everyone involved.

funkless_eck ,

Actor here. Doing intimacy scenes is surprisingly difficult, arguably more so than combat, because usually people train and get certified in sword and dagger, rapier, firearms etc to get cast

When working a job, putting your mouth on another person’s mouth is a very unusual act, and you want your actors - regardless of gender - to feel safe, comfortable, professional and not exploited - not to mention you might spend 2x 14 hours days on this sequence from multiple angles getting it the same every time

p03locke ,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s a somewhat new job title, but it’s now becoming standard across the movie industry.

Delphia ,

Yeah, that sounds like some pretty fair demands.

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

What game is motion-capping realistic rape scenes? Jesus Christ.

Fillicia ,

Fear and Hunger if it wasn’t rpgmaker level graphics

Bluefalcon ,

Next we need to mocap him beating your head in with a hammer. It will hurt at first but you won’t fell much afterwards.

fluxion ,

There’s a lot of straight up porn games out there so who knows what kind of shit these actors end up in when they show up for a generic “motion/voice capture for video game” gig.

scops ,

I don’t think many adult games can afford mocap though. Typically the adult content is purely animated models.

Tattorack ,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Wild Life, an indie porn game currently still in development, has mocap.

p03locke ,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

All indie porn games are still in development. That’s their default state.

Tattorack ,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

It does seem that way, unfortunately.

FeelzGoodMan420 ,

Probably David Cage games lol.

Duamerthrax ,
Damage ,

Sex scenes in games (and movies) are useless 90% of the time

FeelzGoodMan420 ,

Yep. It’s usually always cringe fan service. The sex scenes in cyberpunk are awful.

Damage ,

I don’t even understand who enjoys them. Just go on the internet for your smut!

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

And also largely nonsensical in how they occur and are written. It’s so boring. I mean I would love an actual intimate relationship to contact such a broken world but the devs of course won’t let me, instead I get fanfic writing.

unexposedhazard ,

The remaining 10% being games that exist solely for the purpose of being interactive porn.

Essence_of_Meh ,

Sometimes I forget how unprofessional the game industry still is or how little respect people have for well being of others. I’d like to say I’m surprised but that would require having some expectations towards those companies.

I hope more VAs speak up about stuff like this so we can have some real changes.

callouscomic ,

I’d say that isn’t the game industry, but it’s basically every company and employer everywhere. Nobody matters. Nobody is important. We’re all expendable seems to be the world.

Essence_of_Meh ,

I focused on game companies since that’s what’s this article is about but yeah, that’s true.

TachyonTele ,

I have no idea what game has a realistic rape scene in it. All I could find for her credits in video games was this:

– Unknown9: Awakening (Video Game)/ Casting Director – full performance capture cast & all additional voices./ Dir. Damien Goodwin.
– Peaky Blinders (VR video game)/ Casting Director – full performance capture cast. / Dir. Kate Saxon.
– Warhammer 40K: Battlesisters (VR video game) / Casting Director – full performance capture cast. /Dir. James Horn.
– The Witcher Series 2 (TV) / Casting Associate for VFX & SFX with Sophie Holland Casting.
– Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League (video game) / Casting Director – motion capture cast. /Rocksteady Games.
– Little Hope (video game) / Casting Director – motion capture cast. / Dir. Nick Bowen.

Bunnylux ,
@Bunnylux@lemmy.world avatar

Did you read the article? She stood up for herself and it wasn’t filmed

MolochAlter ,

The fact that the scene wasn’t mocapped doesn’t mean it wasn’t in the game at all, or that they didn’t get someone else to mocap it instead.

MolochAlter ,

If i had to guess it would be Little Hope. It is a horror interactive movie and the games by that team tend to be pretty edgy for a modern dev.

GoosLife ,

Well, she didn’t do the scene.

TachyonTele ,

So the entire game was scrapped?

darkdemize ,

Think about why a game she refused to do wouldn’t appear on her acting credits.

TachyonTele , (edited )

Her credits are not where a game she wasn’t in would be listed, smartass. That’s just the list I was able to find of her work. People like you are so eager to prove everyone wrong on the Internet that you can’t use your brain.

What game has a mocap rape scene in it?

jaaake ,

Sex scenes are common in modern games - and are often made by filming human actors who are then digitised into game characters.

Is “common” referring to cringey low budget Steam games? I don’t think I’ve seen any sort of on screen simulated sex in a game, ever. Granted I tend to only play well publicized indie games and larger releases. But how common is this? Am I out of the loop?

DrBob ,
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Tell me you’ve never played a Witcher game using a whole paragraph.

jaaake ,

Accurate, but one series does not make something common.

Zozano ,
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Mass Effect, The Witcher, San Andreas Hot Coffee Mod, Sega Bass Fishing 2, Cyberpunk 2077.

It’s pretty common.

v4ld1z ,
@v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

TLOU 2

BuboScandiacus ,

Sega Bass Fishing 2

Sorry, what ?

TORFdot0 ,

I don’t recommend it, but going bass-to-mouth was a very popular and hyped feature addition for SEGA Bass Fishing. I’m surprised this is the first you are hearing of it

jaaake ,

The Witcher and Cyberpunk I’ll give you, but Mass Effect definitely fades to black before getting to actual sex, the other two are mods. I wasn’t saying sex in games doesn’t exist, but if we’ve gotta go back several decades for a handful examples, that doesn’t feel like something that’s “common.”

Kolanaki ,
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BG3. The sex scenes in that are just a slight camera angle away from full blown porn. And it’s also incredibly new.

Tattorack ,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Mass Effect Andromeda had one or two fairly graphic sex scenes. Nothing more than what you’d typically see in an R rated Hollywood movie.

Unfortunately the scenes were with the most human characters. Imagine my disappointment when it just did fade to black with the Turian girl…

drasglaf ,
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If I’m not mistaken the Hot Coffee mod restores content made by Rockstar that was cut last minute.

micka190 ,

I think “common” here would refer to having to produce them, over the actual explicitness of the scene. Whether Mass Effect fades to black or not isn’t really the point when the voice actors still have to record the lines that play while the screen is dark.

catloaf ,

One of the new Wolfenstein games too.

I don’t think you can count hot coffee, though. That was cut before release.

What was the first video game with a sex scene? Custer’s Revenge?

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Dragon Age, too. Then ask the Fahrenheit line of games. There’s a lot overall.

riodoro1 ,

I am an adult. Im not prudish. I watch porn. And whenever I see a sex scene in movies/tv shows/games I cringe.

They are usually most unnecessary to the story, and IMO a good movie makes you know it happened without showing it happening (without at least wiping the cock afterwards of course).

This made me hate Game of Thrones for example. I simply referred to it as midget porn. I even hated on it in front of my friends, they put it on to prove me wrong and lo and behold a midget is fucking a whore on screen.

Yeah, I know where to find porn and they even show genitalia there, thank you very much.

aStonedSanta ,

You sound prudish. Some story tellers prefer to show not tell. That’s why they aren’t writing books ya dimwit.

wunami ,
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What do you think these movies or shows are doing when they let people know without showing the sex scene? You think the narrator is just saying “then they had sex” and describing the sex while the screen is blacked out?

Spaceinv8er ,

I agree. I typically skip sex scenes in movies. Those scenes very seldom add anything to the story imo.

Unless it makes sense. In “What Women Want” with Mel Gibson, I believe that is a great example of a sex scene adding to the movie. The whole premise is him reading women’s minds, so him having sex with Marisa Tomei and hearing their thoughts while in the act added to the premise.

So when I see a movie that is just like “hey these people are hot and we should film them go at it” is just boring imo.

jpreston2005 ,

A summary of the story, scene breakdown and scripts should be distributed to all cast members in advance.

performers should be able to request a closed set where access is kept to a minimum.

A competent intimacy coordinator should be engaged.

These are not big asks.

In one recording for a major game she first learned it was explicit only when she turned up for work.

“This was actually a full-on sex scene,” she said.

"I had to [vocally] match the scene and through the glass in the booth was the entire team, all male, watching me.

“It was excruciating… at that stage I had been in the games industry a while, and I had never felt so shaken”.

Not unreasonable to say that this situation should not be repeated.

micka190 ,

Yeah, what they’re asking for is pretty standard stuff in other media. A friend of mine is an actor who played a scene where he had to shoot a masturbation scene. He was alone in a room with like 3-4 people: sound guy, camera guy, director, and I think the intimacy coach was there too.

Having a whole team watch you pretend to have sex is not okay, what the hell.

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