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Do you still write notes with pen and paper?

With so much note taking apps nowadays, I can’t understand why does anyone still write notes with pen and paper. You need to bring the notepad, book or that paper to retrieve that information, and most of the time you don’t have it in hand. While my phone almost always reachable and you carry when you go out. For those still like to do handwriting, there’s many app does that and they can even convert it to text notes.

So, if you still write notes with pen and paper, why?

Shinji_Ikari ,
@Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net avatar

One thing paper helps me with is free-form thought externalizing.

When you limit yourself to text, markdown, or sometimes even a digital pen/drawing app, I feel like it requires a bit of effort to use which allows ideas to slip from my mind.

With a pen/pencil and paper, I can write, draw, and connect about as fast as I can think. I can crumble the page and refine the idea over and over until something I like is there.

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Just on phone. They’re not important notes though. Just random stuff. I don’t even remember the context for 80% of that.
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You get the idea.

Today ,

I usually have a dozen sticky notes on my desk - some i write and some other people leave for me. An email from three days ago is easier to forget than the sticky note.

Geth ,

For work I used to have an agenda with notes but over time I realized it’s impossible to actually keep organized and have the most important things be the most easy to find. I moved to onenote and never looked back.

For personal notes I use a tablet with pen because it’s fun to write by hand without wasting trees and it still being digital it’s easier to organize and move information around.

socsa ,

I use a mechanical pencil. Pentel 205 for life baby.

eating3645 ,

I use a tablet for most my notes but there’s a pretty obvious reason for paper/pen - you don’t have to charge a notebook.

Juice ,
@Juice@hexbear.net avatar

Most of my writing is in pen and paper, I eat through a 200 page composition book about every year. I also do writing on shared drives, like Google docs mostly, and I have grapheme notepad installed on ever electronic device that I own, and I use it fairly often. Something about handwriting makes it easier to get started, maybe its my art/drawing background. I also write in cursive, and people seem to think my handwriting is nice. Admittedly I have practiced letters since grade school, which is kind of unusual I think. Maybe not, I just don’t have as many type/font/lettering conversations as I might like

Anonymouse ,

I tried many times to “go digital” at work, using different apps and methods, but it comes down to 3 things: I take notes and jot down ideas nonlinearly. For example, I’ll start taking a note from a meeting or lecture, then have an idea that I’ll jot down elsewhere, but go back to the original note to finish it then go and complete the idea. It’s stupid, but it works for me. The second is that I infrequently need to review my notes that are written since they get committed to memory. Unfinished ideas are different. Third, I can find notes faster when I wrote them vs typed them. I have a photographic memory. My desk is a huge mess, but I can usually find what I need because I remember it’s physical location in the pile.

aaaaaaadjsf ,
@aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net avatar

Because you remember it better when you actually write it out instead of just using a keyboard. And you can draw diagrams with ease. Most styluses are inaccurate and one dimensional, and buying a phone with actual proper stylus support in both the display and stylus itself is expensive. You could buy a separate technical device just for note taking with proper stylus support and have it upload notes to the cloud so you can access it at all times, but that requires a constant internet connection and mobile data is expensive. And then you have to carry this seperate device with you in the same way you’d carry a much cheaper physical notepad anyways.

autumn ,

Sometimes i need to hand info to someone, or paper is just nearby, or i need to draw a diagram.

I do have an ipad, but if you are brainstorming with other people, they don’t always know how to use it/touch the wrong thing.

All other notes are digital, because i am bad at keeping track of pieces of paper.

ArmokGoB ,

My laptop died in June, so I had to write my entire master’s thesis in a notebook with a pen. Typing on a phone is terrible for writing more than a few sentences.

fratermus ,
@fratermus@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Typing on a phone is terrible for writing more than a few sentences.

A bluetooth keyboard might be helpful here.

becausechemistry ,

Yep. My little Field Notes books don’t send me notifications about emails, and I can toss them around without breaking them. And use a lot of notation and drawing methods that are very slow when typing with my thumbs.

programmer ,

Yes, when i need to concentrate

AnonStoleMyPants ,

95% digital. Work journal is in Tiddlywiki and that’s basically it. Todo lists I do tend to do with pen & paper.

I like pen and paper but searching is always such a fucking hassle and my hand writing is garbo. If I know I don’t need to actually find anything later then it’s great (doodling and thinking about something). I guess I could do pen and paper and layer save into digital but meh.

ginerel ,
@ginerel@kbin.social avatar

Have you tried using different colors to highlight certain content? This way, you can somehow remember what is going on and where, and you remember to look for certain keywords. You can sometimes put certain words in a square, so you won't develop a habit and actually remember what you wrote.

AnonStoleMyPants ,

Not really. But it would be difficult because I have many things I need to keep track of. If I need to later figure out if I did X for Y then I need to be able to find it. Or if I quickly need to find every step I’ve done relating to Y it gets difficult. Only way would be to write everything basically twice, to a notepad (or page) about Y, and also to my journal where I quickly jot down what I have done today.

I’ve thought about digitizing notes and using something like hashtags which I could then search for but it was way too much of a hit and miss to covert handwriting to a searchable format.

Of course having a good index would make things easier but dunno. Maybe I’ll take another shot at it at some point.

sag ,

Yep.

TORFdot0 ,

I get a lot of scratch paper as part of my job entails troubleshooting printers (kill me) and so I have stacks of printer test pages, pages printed out with PCL and PS errors and what not. These make good canvases for sketching up quick network designs or diagraming things such as work flows. I usually scan them in a note taking app before shredding them to keep my desk clear but it’s much more convenient that having to use Visio or something on things that just need to be sketched out

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