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Do you still write notes with pen and paper?

With so much note taking apps nowadays, I can’t understand why does anyone still write notes with pen and paper. You need to bring the notepad, book or that paper to retrieve that information, and most of the time you don’t have it in hand. While my phone almost always reachable and you carry when you go out. For those still like to do handwriting, there’s many app does that and they can even convert it to text notes.

So, if you still write notes with pen and paper, why?

programmer ,

Yes, when i need to concentrate

ArmokGoB ,

My laptop died in June, so I had to write my entire master’s thesis in a notebook with a pen. Typing on a phone is terrible for writing more than a few sentences.

fratermus ,
@fratermus@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Typing on a phone is terrible for writing more than a few sentences.

A bluetooth keyboard might be helpful here.

sag ,

Yep.

Elw ,

I’ll answer with a simple test. Do the following first on your phone and then on a piece of paper:

Design a thing, something physical; a box, a house, a chair, whatever. In addition to the diagram, this note must include a description of the item, the bill of materials, the dimensions and, if applicable, assembly instructions that you could confidently hand to someone else and have them follow. Ideally, you should include the dimensions of the object directly on the sketch itself.

Now give this to someone and see how accurately they can reproduce the item while you go off and make a phone call.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

In addition, the mere act of giving that information to somebody else.

On a phone I can obviously text somebody, but what if I’m somewhere with bad signal (and yes, those places often exist), or the person doesn’t have the phone in their pocket right that second (yes, this also happens in places with work where people don’t want to risk the phone in their pocket breaking)?

With a mini notepad, I can rip a sheet of notes off and hand that diagram to somebody else. If it’s work that will take some time doing while following a diagram, having a phone screen locking up because it isn’t being touched is a hassle and going into the settings to change it back and forth is annoying.

TORFdot0 ,

I get a lot of scratch paper as part of my job entails troubleshooting printers (kill me) and so I have stacks of printer test pages, pages printed out with PCL and PS errors and what not. These make good canvases for sketching up quick network designs or diagraming things such as work flows. I usually scan them in a note taking app before shredding them to keep my desk clear but it’s much more convenient that having to use Visio or something on things that just need to be sketched out

NENathaniel ,
@NENathaniel@lemmy.ca avatar

Nah, tablet and stylus

AlmightySnoo ,
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

Since I got a Remarkable 2 tablet I don’t write on paper anymore. It’s still handwriting so it’s kind of the best of both worlds.

SeventyTwoTrillion ,
@SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net avatar

Typing is better than writing in a solid 75% of cases in my opinion. I agree that you tend to remember things that you physically wrote down better than things you type, but that can be mitigated against if you’re in a situation where you need to remember things with strategies like spaced repetition.

In a lecture setting I would prefer to physically write things down, but you also have to be careful with this and only try and summarize because many people have the wrong strategy and try and transcribe slideshows or the lecturer’s words verbatim, get halfway through a sentence, the lecturer moves on to the next page, you then have to try and remember the rest, probably get bits wrong, and by the time you’ve finished that then they’re on to the next page and you’re just not having a great time. If you get good at typing then you can keep up much better but that’s still not the right thing to do in the lecture hall, unless your lecturer doesn’t give out the notes or slideshows afterwards or record the lectures. then you’re just kinda shit outta luck.

In just everyday settings, like writing a shopping list, keeping reminders? probably on my phone or laptop.

kowcop ,

I don’t think I have touched a pen for much other than signing my name since Covid hit

Skyline ,

For those of you that do, join us at !fountainpens :)

polskilumalo ,
@polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Ooooooh, that looks nice. I think I’ll join!

mar_k , (edited )
@mar_k@hexbear.net avatar

I’m a zoomer and my middle & high school had us do a large majority of stuff on a computer, so my handwriting kinda sucks now

whenever I use pen & paper now, I look at what I wrote and realize I still have the handwriting of a fucking 12 y/o. I also type a lot faster than I write

polskilumalo ,
@polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

I hope you decide to train your handwriting someday, being able to quickly write up a note or something is useful. But seeing how each person has unique hand writing it’s also something one can be rather proud of. And then you have the calligraphy guys, I’ll never be as good as them xd

lightnsfw ,

Ive been writing my whole life and my notes still look like the scribblings of a madman.

Hadriscus ,

I can’t rely on a piece of electronics that might run out of battery, bug out, etc. Note taking on paper is much faster, you can draw anything with any sort of layout, it’s completely free form. Of course it depends on your needs. I know I sketch down a lot because of my line of work, that may not be the case for everyone.

newIdentity ,

You know that tablets exist?

It’s way easier to lose a piece of paper than a backed up searchable note. Not a problem if you’re super organized but I’m not.

milicent_bystandr ,

Last time I upgraded my phone, I looked at getting a Samsung Note: I’ve wanted pen input on a phone for so long. Then I considered the extra weight and bulk, and the poor condition of the second hand one I was looking at, and decided I can just just use pen and paper.

I like to be able to scribble things on paper, though my handwriting is terrible. For anything to last long for me, I want it digital, but random thoughts, calculations and stuff, I like paper and pen.

polskilumalo ,
@polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

But have you considered the true reliability of paper? Really, even a tablet is a computer that can run out of battery, bug out, etc.

Paper not only has that, but it is also an art form in itself! Writing on a tablet, which can zoom in and out is for me much more awkward compared to the set dimensions of paper and the size of a nib. It also is something that has no feel to it, it’s glass.

No scratch, no feedback and most importantly no feel. Have you ever held high quality pull and pulp paper? In Polish it’s called “Papier czeprany” and I have. It’s like nothing else. Standard copy paper be damned, that thing is a joy to hold, write on and read off of.

Also, paper is different if you have different light. It really makes all the difference for me, and I love sitting under a warm light from a lamp and either writing with a pen or typing it out on a typewriter. Having light blasted onto my face by a screen annoys and tires me out a lot of the time.

It’s not just the practicality that can win out, even though paper does also win for me on that front, it has a charm to it if approached in a way different than just absolute practicality.

triclops6 ,

For anything I’ll need to share or search, digital.

Everything else, I remember it better if I commit handwriting to it, and I use fountain pens, it’s a nicer experience.

bismuthbob ,
@bismuthbob@sopuli.xyz avatar

At home I take notes on the computer. Timestamps, instant sync across devices, whatever editor I like to use, et cetera. If I get a random call and someone starts talking at me, I’ll settle for scribbling on a fast food receipt if it is close to hand. I use my phone sometimes, but I generally take notes when I’m on a phone call.

When I’m at an in-person meeting with a client, pen and paper is the best option because it conveys some degree of respect. People still seem to be put off by people pulling out a laptop and typing during an emotionally charged meeting. If I pull out my cellphone and start poking at it in a professional setting, people don’t think that I’m listening or taking notes. They think that I’m bored.

Tubulous ,

Seconded on the respect comment. It may not be fair, but I think people using their laptops in meetings are distracted by the myriad notifications constantly bombarding us, checking email, or otherwise not staying engaged. Harder to be present when your device keeps clamoring for your attention.

IRQBreaker ,

I’m 53. Never got the hang of typing fast on the phone, so whenever I’m in a meeting and not having my laptop with me, it’s pen and paper for me. 🙃

polskilumalo ,
@polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

It also gets painful real quick, I find needing to type out long texts on a smartphone frustrating and I quickly get needlessly angry 😅

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