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Do you still write notes with pen and paper?

With so much note taking apps nowadays, I can’t understand why does anyone still write notes with pen and paper. You need to bring the notepad, book or that paper to retrieve that information, and most of the time you don’t have it in hand. While my phone almost always reachable and you carry when you go out. For those still like to do handwriting, there’s many app does that and they can even convert it to text notes.

So, if you still write notes with pen and paper, why?

nutbutter ,

My handwriting is the perfect encryption. Nobody else can understand it. Lol.

petrescatraian ,

@nutbutter The algorithm is especially harder to decrypt if you don't write that often. I can tell it from my personal experience, lol.

@techconsulnerd

AngryHippy ,
  1. a notebook and pencil in my shirt pocket are faster to open than a phone app
  2. handwriting is faster than thumb typing
  3. I can sketch an electrical diagram on paper way faster than anyone can with a stylus on some janky phone screen.

3.1) Even if there was a stylus/screen combination with the same haptics, fidelity, and input recognition speed as pencil on paper, it wouldn’t be 0.78€

  1. I can toss the notebook and diagrams to anyone working on a project with me with zero worry that they’ll drop it, forget it, or look around in the rest of it
  2. I can tear out a page and hand it to anyone instantly, instead of finding out what messaging app we have in common, copying (or screenshotting) the note and pasting it in an app
  3. I can insert a note into a physical book, stick it to the inside of a toolbox lid, a wall next to an electrical junction, inside a breaker box, or any other surface, and always have location-aware reminders waiting for me when I need them.
  4. With minimal environmental control, my notes are effectively immortal. I have notebooks of measurements and diagrams of most rooms, wall cavities, pipe runs, electrical runs, cable pulls, and dimensions of various equipment that have outlasted hard drives, backup tapes, and a few cloud storage companies.
flubba86 ,

This is the correct answer. I don’t take many notes personally myself, but your comment made me think I really should carry around a small notebook in my pocket.

eestileib ,

This guy notebooks.

Mostly_Gristle ,

Also, notes taken with pen and paper never run out of battery, or need to be charged. They’re powered by basically any light source.

idle ,
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On the flip side, they don’t come up in a mass search. I have so many notes. If it doesn’t come up in a search it mine as well not exist, I’ll never find it.

starlinguk ,
@starlinguk@kbin.social avatar

And your notes don't suddenly increase the price of your storage.

beetus ,

Digital text notes take up practically no storage space. You’ll spend more on new notebooks to write in over a year than digital storage space for the exact same content

polskilumalo ,

I’d rather do that despite the costs. I like the real storage paper requires.

Steeve , (edited )

Uh, except for buying more notebooks and writing utensils, which, if your text files are large enough to suddenly increase the price of storage (or even need to pay for text storage), you’re going to need a whole lot of.

MidwayTheMagnificent ,

No, it’s more of a subtle, inflationary pressure.

For me, it’s the act of writing, the memory it helps solidify, and… being an FP nerd.

Can I take notes on a phone? Sure, but I wouldn’t use a personal device for work notes, ever. Between my privacy, customer privacy laws, and separation of concerns. I’ve no compunctions at all, though, about sharing an A5 notebook between journal, work notes, personal notes, and reminders.

whysofurious ,
@whysofurious@beehaw.org avatar

This. Plus as a subjective thing: I personally remember stuff more easily when I write them down compared to typing. Also my written notes mix bullet points, regular writing, arrows and connections, without having to “switch mode” or install plugins.

I still use note-taking apps, sometimes as primary, sometimes as secondary tool.

mctit ,

I feel like you have to be exceptionally fast at handwriting or exceptionally slow at thumb typing for handwriting to be faster.

jasonmax ,

yep, still doing it

pensivepangolin ,

I’ll one up ya!

I am a pen and paper guy…for initial notes.

If I deem a certain note or set of notes is worth keeping long term, then I recreate them in Joplin. All about the extra work.

jhoward ,

Yes, but I use a rocket book to easily digitize these days. Tried a remarkable, but didn’t quite like the process once many pages were involved (slow to flip through pages).

I also keep quite a few notes on the computer and phone via self hosted Joplin. Which is awesome too.

usa_suxxx ,
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Important notes yes. I have like a billion notes on my computer. I don’t want to grep that.

sgharms ,

Here’s the biggest reason: we are evolved from savannah primates for whom the ability to make eye contact and hold it was a signal of “you can trust me, I’m not about to bite you.” Paper and pen don’t signal “I have decided to break this evolutionary/social contract” in the same way a phone or open laptop does.

I help mentor a lot of young people in early career and their generation with a phone is an excuse for an x-er/boomer interviewer to punt them waiting to happen. It’s career and comp limiting, right or no.

Also if one finds a taken note is missing something, contact the original party. A conversation that begins with: “you got me thinking about this more deeply and I think I may have missed something…” is the key to mentorship, advocacy, and growth.

In short from a transcoding of bits perspective, other media may be better. But for those they acknowledge human constraint and opportunity a nice notebook and (a cheap shill from me) a Lamy Safari medium nib fountain pen will do you quite well.

argv_minus_one ,

we are evolved from savannah primates for whom the ability to make eye contact and hold it was a signal of “you can trust me, I’m not about to bite you.”

Funny. Cats are the opposite. To them, unblinking eye contact says “I don’t trust you. I’m keeping my eye on you.” Hence the slow blink they’re famous for.

Paper and pen don’t signal “I have decided to break this evolutionary/social contract” in the same way a phone or open laptop does.

Why not? Either way, you’re breaking eye contact. When paper first became commonplace, people probably made the same argument, and there are photos of people on trains all looking at their newspapers and ignoring each other.

theblackpaul ,

I’m a millennial and I still write notes with pen and paper simply because I can’t be bothered to learn how to format in a notes app of any kind.

All of my notes are formatted in a bizarre way that makes sense to me. Applying that format in a digital space is always a giant headache.

I am switching to using Obsidian. Skipping the formatting all together and instead linking all my disjointed ideas to each other seems to be working pretty well.

argv_minus_one ,

I’m a millennial and I still write notes with pen and paper simply because I can’t be bothered to learn how to format in a notes app of any kind.

I’m an older millennial, and I’ll tell you how I format my notes: in text files. Markdown if I’m feeling fancy.

argv_minus_one ,

No. Handwriting is slow and makes my hand sore. Keyboards are way more comfortable.

thisismyrealname ,

most of my notes i take digitally, but if i’m working on something i’ll use pen and paper so i don’t risk damaging my phone.

Gorillatactics ,

I don’t write anything down because the sophon is watching me.

s_s ,

I do not trust things in my phone to stay private.

argentcorvid ,
@argentcorvid@midwest.social avatar

Yes, typed notes don’t stick as well as written ones

techwizrd ,

I enjoy writing with fountain pens, and I’ve got to justify the numerous pens and inks I have. I also find it helps me with recall and focus. So I take notes by hand most of the time.

mo_lave ,

Yes. There’s something about putting it in paper that makes me grasp the concept in a more personal manner.

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