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Zahille7 ,

It seems that it’s about 50/50 whether you stopped watching someone based on some allegations that came out, or you just outgrew their style.

One that I outgrew is probably Game Grumps. I watched them regularly for years, then one day just kinda stopped.

Firoaren ,

Shows like that rely a lot on real conversation & stories. Eventually, Dan & Arin had been doing game hrumps for so long they just sorta, ran out of both? At least, not to be able to support such a hellish release schedule of episodes. Too much time together, playing games, means they didn’t have anything to supplement it with anymore, so all that was left was the same jokes repeated for timekillers.

mindbleach ,

Occasionally broken by Arin being a music dork instead of a gaming dork, leading to magic like introducing him to Gen1 Pokemon designs.

… oh god that was nine years ago.

Crabhands ,
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Epic Meal Time and Pure Pwnage

virku ,

Any of them actually make content anymore?

Crabhands ,
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EMT does but its not the same. Show got repetitive, so I guess they changed it up, but its crap now.

virku ,

Thanks! I honestly felt it got repetitive after just a few videos…

SuperSaiyanSwag ,

JonTron

AquaTofana ,

God he was so fucking funny. It was a legit travesty when he let the mask slip and showed us he was actually a huge prick that shouldn’t be supported.

hexabs ,

Out of the loop… What happened?

don ,

After a quick search, this came up.

mindbleach ,

That one hurt.

Wootz ,

AvE.

He used to be a bulwark against idiocy and koolaid drinkery, advocating for calmness and common sense.

…and then he called Justin Trudeau a Nazi and bought into vaccine skepticism.

nathan ,

Yeah I noticed the same thing and I also don’t watch that channel for the same reason. I used to watch every video! Then he started saying weirder and weirder shit haha

mindbleach ,

Some people get addicted to being right all the time.

Liz , (edited )

Forgotten Weapons: Used to have videos on very cool old guns with interesting historical backgrounds and whatever. Then he made a series of selfish decisions that demonstrated what kind of person he really was, and I no longer had any interest in even helping him through the algorithm.

CyberMonkey404 ,

made a series of selfish decisions that demonstrated what kind of person he really was

What’d he do? I also used to watch that channel some time ago, but just kinda ran out of interest and stopped. Seems like I’ve missed something important

Liz , (edited )

Off the top of my head:

-Sold a bunch of merch that was comically oversized and left everyone stuck with unusable product.
-Tried to arrange a deal under the table on an auction gun he got a look at before it went up.
-Doesn’t help his teammates reset stages when at a shooting competition.
-Failed to stand up for Karl when ARFCOM was making up lies about him.
-Failed to give IRTV credit for organizing a 2GAC match, when that’s basically the only request they make for media.
-Took on Lucas Botkin as a sponsor.
-Copy-pasted brutality rules for his own spin-off match after falling out with Karl, and doing such a poor job he left in references to the venue or IRTV (I can’t remember which).
-When asked why he was selling merch with a picture of himself that he hated, shrugged and said “money.”
-Treats his wife more like “the help.”
-Generally just thinks he’s better than you and you don’t deserve his respect.
-Abuses copyright takedown requests.
-Removes comments critical of him on his YouTube channel but claims doing so for other people was not possible (Karl, when ARFCOM happened).
-Has expressed deep distain for his own audience.

There’s more but that’s all I can remember right now.

Edit: I should say that he’s generally pretty good at keeping this stuff out of the public eye, these are mostly only things you hear if you know the right people.

stoy ,

I am sad to read this, his channel is so nice because he presents firearms calmly snd friendly.

I stopped watching the channel when he started doing a lot of gun matches instead of talking about the mechanics of guns.

I did wonder why IRTV seemed to just fade away, sad to hear about the falling out.

Like all people in media, his on screen persona is just a character, sad to hear that he is a dick outside of the camera.

Liz ,

Yeah, sucks doesn’t it?

He’s had to fill in with match footage because he lost access to the auction house guns after trying to set up that deal. He has access to a lot fewer old firearms these days.

Karl is still making videos, but Ian is not a part of IRTV anymore.

stoy ,

That explains so much, I have been wondering why Ian suddenly started talking about more modern and common guns, but never saw the drama.

Thank you for filling in the gaps.

CyberMonkey404 ,

Thank you for the information!

captain_aggravated ,
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The Engineer Guy just stopped uploading.

Same with Afrotechmods. TOP NOTCH electronics tutorial videos, he just stopped posting.

Pushing Up Roses, as she explained it herself, has pretty much said what she wanted to say about retro video games and largely does TV now with the occasional modern adventure game review thrown in. I wish her well but I’m no longer her audience.

DistroTube. Did Linux related content who might have an 88 tattooed on his neck by now.

Scott Manley. Similar to PUR, the content he makes kind of drifted out from under my interests; I became a fan of his Kerbal Space Program playthroughs and demonstrations of space flight concepts, but as far as I know now he basically does space news stuff now, which is perfectly cool but my attention wandered elsewhere.

Bright Sun Films. Once again there wasn’t a “nope not watching this anymore” moment, I think I just had my fill of Abandoned.

(dis)Honorable Mention: The Escapist. I no longer watch that channel but I am still a fan, viewer and patron of the talent themselves. Their new channel Second Wind is the most hilarious instance of owning the means of production I’ve ever seen.

overload ,

Distrotube hits hard. I remember the video showing everyone his collection of increasingly larger guns was the checkout moment for me. Even saying one of them was great for kids. As a non American maybe I just don’t get it.

ssm ,
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Distrotube, Luke Smith, and Mental Outlaw all give me bad vibes. Shame they’re (minus distrotube) at the forefront of OpenBSD youtube content.

theshatterstone54 ,

Yeah, I’ve dropped DT and Mental Outlaw. As for Luke Smith, I’m going through some of his older, purely technical videos about vim, grep, sed, awk, etc. and that’s it. I’m dropping him too after that

Red_sun_in_the_sky ,
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Luke smith is a freak. Just gross.

GreatRam , (edited )

The engineer guy recently uploaded a video on duct tape. I liked it a lot

captain_aggravated ,
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He has published his audio book about the airship R101 under a creative commons license, if you haven’t seen that yet I’d check it out.

Red_sun_in_the_sky ,
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Oh shit distro tube. Yeah that’s true.

MonkeMischief ,

Quite a few, but off the top of my head, SecondThought. I really enjoyed his accessible antiwork/breadtube video essays for a while, even though they got a little repetitive. It was really hard to find good anti-corpo information.

I’d even watch them with my wife and they’d feel somewhat galvanizing right before heading off to a really crappy job I was stuck in.

What did it for me is when he got kicked off Nebula for his comments on a podcast, where he basically went full tankie and joked about the situation with Israel/Palestine, basically saying all the murdered Israeli civilians “deserved it.”

I refused to let myself be influenced anymore by worldview of someone who would view other human beings in such a way. Apparently I was even late to realizing it. It’s a gross feeling.

Trev625 ,

If it makes you feel any better, I was even later than you to stop watching. I didn’t know about any of that Nebula stuff and only found out when one of his videos was so insane I had to go see how other people felt about it.

Zagorath ,
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Like @MonkeMischief, I found out about it thanks to the Nebula stuff and stopped watching then. What was the insane comment he made in a later video?

Trev625 ,

Pretty sure it was the "We need to talk about ‘Authoritarianism’ " video. I’d have to rewatch it to find what I found objectionable at the time lol

MonkeMischief ,

I think I remember this one too. It’s fuzzy but IIRC it might have been how he rags on the USA establishment for being draconian but then basically said “Hey if the right people wielded all that State power…”

There were also numerous times going light or outright conveniently ignoring authoritarian human rights abuses in places like China, to make them look like they’ve got it all together. Ick.

If you end up remembering the specific bit though, I’m curious too. :)

I don’t hate the guy or anything. But I do feel like he’s simply slid far on the authoritarian-left-side of the ideology-funnel that leads to extremism reinforced by self-deluding narratives. I hate seeing that happen to people. :(

MonkeMischief ,

It does help me feel better actually. Thanks!

I don’t even remember how I found out exactly, but I’m glad I did. I can totally understand how you could miss it. Especially because his videos seemed so tame to begin with.

Apparently the podcast with Yugopnik had a lot more of this kind of tankie banter.

Not sure if he was always this way or if it’s a case of “algorithm-driven-personality syndrome” but I still find it sad. :(

Sidenote: I also got an icky feeling when he’d constantly say “Sponsors won’t touch this content” and immediately started plugging audible and storyblocks or whatever.

To wrap on a positive note: So far I’ve been enjoying OrdinaryThings for my “Anti-establishment funny well-researched video essay” cravings. :p

Trev625 ,

Yeah I’m not sure either. He used to do science-y videos before I started watching and I think his political videos really caught the algorithm which changed what kind of content he made for sure.

Thanks for the plug! I’ll definitely check them out. I’ve been missing that kinda stuff since all the “Breadtube” people make 2 hour long videos with long breaks now haha

tiredofsametab , (edited )

Binging with Babish - the content just drifted away. He started doing a show with another guy and I just didn't watch those episodes. Then, the content went further and I stopped watching.

Joshua Weissman - he just became insufferable at some point. I liked his older content.

Shadiversity, Sabine Hossenfelder - they have positions that cause hurt to people and that I morally do not agree with and won't give watch time or ad/sub money to. There are probably more here, but I don't recall. They're welcome to their opinions, but I'm not entitled to view them or fund them.

First we Feast - mostly watched it for Hot Ones (the Motz's stuff was fantastic!) but I got tired of Hot Ones, didn't know most of the guests for a long stretch (not living in the US or really consuming US media made me lose track of things). I also kinda got burnt out on the format.

Linus Tech Tips - to me, it just became the arrogant, egotistical Linus show. There was some other stuff that kinda put me off as well. Maybe it's better now, but I haven't watched in a long while at this point.

A number of creators I'm not thinking of - I hate when prescription meds are advertised (which isn't even legal in the vast majority of countries) and how they just want to sell dick pills without a real, non-conflict-of-interest doctor involved when the cause may not even be physical. I worked in healthcare for a long time and that just rubbed me the wrong way, particularly when creators in countries where it would be illegal for them on TV do it (and it may not even be legal/available in their country but it is in the country of at least US-based audience members).

Edit: and the 8-bit guy now, based on others mentioning things, checking other sources, and even checking up a follow-up video he made a year ago. I'll pass.

hypertext ,

Have dropped Joshua as well since he turned more and more annoying trying to capitalize on memes.

And Linus… well i think everyone that follows/ed him knows about the gamers nexus incident which was just the tipping point after, as you said, he got more and more arrogant

Zagorath ,
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Shadiversity

Oh boy. I do HEMA, and let me tell you, he is not popular among people who actually have any understanding of historical fighting. The guy preaches his own opinion based on vague vibes and what seems right to him, and I think he’s even put out some videos saying how HEMA is terrible and wrong. Meanwhile, we read actual historical texts from people who were using these weapons and techniques at a time when it was actively being used, and we regularly train and fight people to prove to ourselves just how effective they are.

And that’s without even getting in to the very clear bigotry he demonstrates on his second channel, and which occasionally makes its way subtly into the main channel.

Anyway, as far as bigotry and people interested in swords are concerned, Jill Bearup. I haven’t watched her since she did the collab with Tom Scott and as a result her history of transphobia and refusal to denounce those beliefs became more widely known, leading to Tom Scott taking down the collab, and Nebula kicking her off their platform.

Brutticus ,

Oh boy Jill. I was crushed to learn about her transphobia. And also her cringe book.

dethedrus ,

Same! Such an utter disappointment.

randint ,
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Sabine Hossenfelder - they have positions that cause hurt to people

Can you elaborate on this? I haven’t really watched much of her content, so I am not quite sure how she’s causing hurt.

tiredofsametab ,

You can search for her takes on trans people and that will probably, but basically against basic things like gender-affirming care and positing that trans is a social fad amongst youth.

Zagorath ,
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This video is a pretty good response to it.

randint ,
@randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

thanks, I see now. really well made response video.

rickyrigatoni ,

I watched Inside Gaming/Funhaus a lot but after the whole Adam Kovic thing happened it wasn’t the same. The new crew of people were some cool dudes but didn’t seem anywhere near as into the crude humor or constant 80’s/90’s movie trivia stuff and I couldn’t go back to the old episodes for a couple years after knowing what I knew.

I dropped Nerd3 after he played Metal Gear Rising and called it a mindless button masher when he was just mashing buttons mindlessly and didn’t even go into the movelist. There were instances before that where he didn’t bother learning how to play a game before writing it off as the game being bad because he was bad and that was just the last straw.

I watched InTheLittleWood for a bit but he was just a weenie to be honest.

Can’t watch kitty0706 without getting a little emotional still.

There are plenty of other channels that I just got bored of their content, or they changed their content to something I didn’t gel with. There’s no winning with me.

Matriks404 ,

Yogscast.

It just gone downhill after Jaffa Factory Minecraft series.

Evotech ,

You probably just got older.

But to be fair after the whole sjin incident it was not the same

mub ,

Their recent Minecraft stuff has been quite fun. I miss the yogslabs stuff.

jol ,

Community Channel…

pyre ,

:(

SirEDCaLot ,

Casey Neistat. Back when he was doing his daily vlog thing a lot of it was really interesting, covering him and his wife trying to make shit happen in the city as he was running and riding his powered skateboard around Manhattan. At some point his audience started drifting younger, way way younger, and I don’t know if it was him or me but I just kind of lost interest. It didn’t feel new anymore.

That might be me to be honest. I actually don’t watch YouTube that much at all anymore, unless I’m looking for something specific. Their recommendation algorithm is garbage and it is so obviously going for raw time suck engagement that it leaves me with a bunch of unfulfilling clickbait / ragebait where I could watch it for an hour and then just want my hour back so I end up not returning. The whole platform used to be more full of interesting genuinely entertaining and educational videos, now it just feels like a giant time sink. And every other video is now some paid sponsorship or plug where the creator is basically just whoring out their own influence. Case in point, look up reviews of laser engravers. Every single one that I could find, especially of a couple major brands, the creator got the laser hardware for free. Some of them are just advertisements that reuse the manufacturer’s own stock footage, and some seem more like real reviews, but for one or two brands I literally could not find one video where the creator wasn’t sponsored by the laser manufacturer.

Classy ,

FLuffee Talks. (Hey… What’s up?)

No particular reason. FLuffee is a major old schooler that’s been pumping out content since the earliest days of YouTube who specializes in pop news and shock-jock content. I used to devour his content when I was like 11-15, and I think I just got overexposed and lost taste for it.

I’ve gone back occasionally over the years and he’s still at it. If his content style works and he can maintain it even some 16-18 years later, I say more power to him.

UKFilmNerd ,
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The 8 bit guy. I loved his retro computing channel and then one day, he acquired a rare IBM computer and promptly destroyed the power supply by sticking a screwdriver into it (if I remember correctly).

For some reason, I googled about this and discovered he’s a gun nut. They’re videos of him going grocery shopping with his rifle on his back which apparently he does this knowing it will annoy people.

Unsubscribed from the channel and never looked back.

Liz ,

I love guns, but… Bro… Don’t do that.

Too bad about him, his passion for old electronics made me interested when I don’t have any particular interest of my own.

umbrella , (edited )
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wasnt this guy found to be a nazi too?

Todd_cross ,

Do you have a source for that? I have never heard this.

umbrella ,
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no thats why i asked. i remember something about it back when i found out about the guns thing.

and honestly whats the chance of a dude having that kind of attitude towards guns not being a fascist?

Todd_cross ,

Oh, fair enough.

I mean with that kind of attitude, he almost definitely is a conservative, whether he’s gone full Nazi, I don’t know.

sunzu ,

but it is his right!!!!!

lol

BruceTwarzen ,

No one argued that?

sunzu ,

When somebody carries a gun into a public space like that... That is what is being said.

Duamerthrax ,

I’m unsure about some of the talents at MSM since it was claimed that they may have a blacklist and the CEO, Seth may be power tripping and gaslighting the smaller talents while treating the big ones with kid gloves to keep them in the company.

When the accusations were first brought up, Seth put out a tweet explaining that they don’t have a blacklist, but do have a list of other streamers who are considered high risk. Which sounds a hell of a lot like a blacklist and comes across as some logic fallacy I don’t know the name up. Basically redefining words to sidestep an accusation. “I haven’t done X because that’s not what X means.”

There’s also some problematic tweets the CEO made when he was 21 and probably contributed to f1nn5ter leaving and while he wasn’t specific to exactly why, LordAethelstan also left after hearing about the accusations and vetting things on his end. Supposedly Seth was also shit talking Mythic, which his girlfriend works with, so that alone would be enough if he could verify it.

I’m using “safe” language here because this is still an emerging story, but going by the response from MSM supporters, they look guilty as hell of something.

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