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Beldarofremulak ,

AI will make things better

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Ok_imagination ,

Hahaha, I like that having it re-read the question fixed the issue…

Riven ,

I tried the same Ai and asked it to provide a list of 20 things, it only gave me 5. I asked for the rest and it also apologized and then provided the rest. It’s weird that it stumbles at first but is able to see it’s error and fix it. I wonder if it’s a thing that it ‘learned’ from the data set. People not correctly answering prompts the first time.

webghost0101 ,

Something else i also encounter with gpt4 a lot is asking “why did you do x or y” as a general curiosity of learning how it handles the task.

Almost every time it apologizes and does a fully redo avoiding x or y

Gabu ,

Might be an intentional limitation to avoid issues like the “buffalo” incident with GPT3 (it would start leaking information it shouldn’t after repeating a word too many times).

kralk ,

If only that worked on humans!

echodot ,

I personally don’t think a large section of the population meets the requirement for general intelligence so I think it’s a bit rich to expect the AI to do it as well.

CuttingBoard ,

We all know the first black man in space was George Santos.

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

I still want to know what the fucking fuck triggered “possible self harm” in your first question.

Beldarofremulak ,

Just early days of AI fun. Neo probably disconnected from his goo bath or sum idk.

echodot ,

It’s weird though because they were able to point out they got to absurdity to its comment and it did agree. No it’s not just algorithmic phrase matching, there is an actual “thought process” going on.

I’ve never been able to get an AI to explain its logic though which is a shame. I’m sure it would be useful to know why they come up with the answers they do.

force ,

I’ve never been able to get an AI to explain its logic though which is a shame. I’m sure it would be useful to know why they come up with the answers they do.

you and AI researchers both. it’s probably a trillion-dollar problem at this point

machinin ,

they were able to point out they got to absurdity to its comment and it did agree. No it’s not just algorithmic phrase matching, there is an actual “thought process” going on.

Or it just knows to say those words when someone says “are you sure?” or something similar.

echodot ,

But then it provided the correct answer so it’s not just a rote response. If it was it would say no I am not sure, but then it wouldn’t be able to provide the response.

KISSmyOS ,

My guess is, when they get negative feedback they throw a bit more computing power into your instance for the second reply.

machinin ,

You could test it on a correct answer. Ask a question, see if it gives a correct answer, then ask “are you sure?” to see what kind of response it gives. My guess is that you won’t get an answer like “yes, I’m sure, that was the correct answer.”

nucleative ,

Normally it ends the conversation at this point and refuses to answer any thing else, disabling the text box. At least it let you try again!

MrJameGumb ,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

You have to search for “motorcycle 38 year old single mom sexy” otherwise it’s considered “grooming” now

dustyData ,

Why do you want to date a single mom? Are you trying to gain access to minors without supervision? Child sexual abuse is illegal.

Get resources.

/s

pdxfed ,

What do you mean, date? Are you against long-term monogamous commitment and marriage? First grooming now respectable societal collapse? For shame.

dustyData ,

Calm down Woody Allen.

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Millennial men having the realization they never stopped calling women “girls.”

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It’s not some terrible offense, unless intended as such.

Blueberrydreamer ,

It’s not an offense, it’s a word for children. Which makes it a very poor choice when searching for explicit content unless you’re looking for CSM.

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That’s a fair point.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

Just remember, when you turn 18 you have to immediately ask all partners to marry you, or else someone will be convinced you are a pedophile for having a girlfriend/boyfriend.

ogmios ,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

it’s a word for children

It’s literally not though

Blueberrydreamer ,

Ironically calling a group of geriatrics ‘girls’ doesn’t change the meaning. It’s a joke that apparently went over your head.

ogmios ,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m not sure what you’re trying to do, other than perhaps to argue for the sake of arguing, because it’s not even uncommon to use to word agnostic of age.

Blueberrydreamer ,

Obviously it’s often used colloquially for women. That doesn’t change what it literally means. What I’m trying to point out here is that if you’re looking for porn, don’t call women ‘girls’, because it sounds like you’re looking for children. It’s pretty fucking simple.

ogmios ,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

Your mistaken understanding of how people use the word doesn’t change what it means.

Blueberrydreamer ,

Nothing mistaken, I just don’t give a rats ass. Using a 20 year old, wildly exploitative porn franchise that went bankrupt after its founder was accused of creating child porn is not exactly a convincing argument that ‘girls’ is a useful term to find porn of adult women.

ogmios ,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m showing you a new example of the word being used to describe adult women in every post, because you couldn’t possibly be more wrong about it’s popular usage.

Blueberrydreamer ,

That’s nice. Also completely pointless since you can’t seem to grasp a simple concept.

I don’t fucking care.

If you don’t want to be confused for a pedo, stop calling women ‘girls’ when searching for porn. It’s not the 90s anymore. This is only going to be more common as the fight against AI CSM escalates.

fsxylo ,

Before you talk to someone next time, imagine them saying “I don’t fucking care” and spare the world of your opinions.

Blueberrydreamer ,

Feel free to take your own advice.

fsxylo ,

I don’t fucking care.

Blueberrydreamer ,

Now you’re getting it! 👍

gamermanh ,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s not the 90s anymore

Literally only the first example they gave wasn’t in existence until at least 2011.

I saw a sign for a strip club in town last night. Know what was on it?

GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS

Should I go burn down the evil kiddie strip club?

Blueberrydreamer ,

I guess if you want to be arrested.

Look, I’m not advocating for anything here, I’m not suggesting anyone who’s ever said ‘girl’ should be thrown in prison.

I just pointed out that it’s a specific term used to refer to female children, thus it makes sense that search engines are using it to weed out unwanted searches for child porn. It’s a reasonable step to take on their part, and absolutely doesn’t affect anyone that isn’t looking for CSM. Just use any other word for women. Hell, there are plenty of other derogatory words for women you can use that will still get you tons of results just in case denigrating women is an important part of your searching process.

Gabu ,

If you don’t want to be confused for one, stop thinking of children all the time, you weirdo.

kryptonianCodeMonkey ,

Still better than “females”.

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Your femalefriend never has a females night out?

FabledAepitaph ,

I never really understood the outrage associated with using this word. I have no problem calling myself male, or being referred to as male even though I just identy as a “person”, tbh. People just want to be pissed off.

hemko ,

I do get why, woman is referring to human female. Female refers to a female of any specie. Still think it’s dumb to get mad about

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

My cat is a girl, is girl now offensive as it refers to “all species”?

It’s a ridiculous argument, based on some “scientific” basis of a word that doesn’t hold up in everyday speech and seems to stem entirely from Americans.

We use male/female all the time in Australia, it’s not an issue and doesn’t carry negative social connotations. Referring to a group of women as females sounds grammatically wrong, but that’s about it.

TechLich ,

I don’t think that’s universally true. Most parts of Australia I’ve been to have the same nuance of “females” often being used by assholes in a demeaning way and seen as somewhat dehumanising in some contexts (but not all).

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

We don’t do stupid shit like say “woman athletes ” over “female athletes” like seppos do.

kryptonianCodeMonkey ,

I’ve never seen “outrage” about it, mostly annoyance and eye rolling. It’s douchey at best. It’s usually the least respectful people (primarily men/teenage boys, but not exclusively), usually using the term in a derogatory or dismissive way against women, and often dehumanizing or objectifying them. It’s also similar to referring to black people as “blacks”. It’s just reductive, like that’s the defining feature of them. That may not be fair. May not be how you use it. But that is the connotation of using the term in that way.

IsThisAnAI ,

It’s because the general consensus among progressives is that it’s typically used by an asshole in poor context. Nobody cares if it’s being used respectfully. I am not activating that the opinion is correct either way.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

Many disagree with me but whenever someone says the word female shouldn’t be used I always refer back to using woman to define gender and female to define sex. Is it the best way to think of it; maybe not, but that’s how I always did.

ogmios ,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

For me “females” makes it feel like treating them as any other animal. While not factually incorrect, the term fails completely to convey the fact that my feelings towards human girls are substantially greater than my feelings towards any other animal.

echodot ,

It’s like most of these things, the word isn’t inherently derogatory but a certain group of people use it in a way that is derogatory.

If they hadn’t done that I don’t think there would be a problem.

Jarix ,

I can still hear my 89 year old gramdmother everytime i read that word

ogmios , (edited )
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

Because there’s literally nothing wrong with using the word?

FabledAepitaph ,

I never really developed an association with age as it relates to the term “girl” or “boy”. Sure, I’d call a child a boy or a girl over a man or a woman every time, but there’s not some magical age at which it becomes inappropriate.

We have brains and we are capable of interpreting things based on context. Things in the real world are fluid and flexible and rigid definitions are silly in the face of societal, cultural, and personal diversity. Stop trying to find outrage. It’s pointless and you end up being wrong more ways than you’re right.

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

lmao, the only person outraged here is you, buddy. I was literally talking about myself.

FabledAepitaph ,

Because communicating facts and ideas is being outraged, I guess. You need to chill out because I’m just here typing words on my phone with basically no emotion associated with any of it lawl.

Rai ,

Nothing they said signifies outrage, what a ridiculous comment.

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

So then why wasn’t their comment considered ridiculous for the same reason? What was I even conceivably “outraged” about?

Stop trying to find outrage.

Am I supposed to be outraged at myself, for continuing to call women “girls?” I literally had this thought because I do it. It’s hilarious because it’s fucking dumb, but y’all are writing screeds about other people “looking for outrage” who are just cracking dumb jokes.

He was upset enough that he needed to write a comment calling me out for “trying to find outrage.” What a couple of fuckin maroons.

bigboig ,

People want their gotcha ¯_(ツ)_/¯

SirSamuel ,

The only reason I stopped using “girl” as a descriptor was because I stopped using “boy”. And I stopped using “boy” because I learned white bigots use the word in a derogatory and demeaning way against black men, and i didn’t want to accidentally demean a friend or coworker.

I likely would eventually have stopped using “girl” as I began to understand more about relative power dynamics and the implications of using diminutive language on adults. That being said, when you grow up hearing language used a certain way, you didn’t really think about it’s use as an adult until someone brings it to your attention.

Or at least that’s my experience. But I generally think the best of people until contrary evidence presents itself. Like if they use blatant bigoted speech, or drive on the same road I’m driving on. Then I know they’re hateful, awful people that should be eliminated from the gene pool.

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

or drive on the same road I’m driving on. Then I know they’re hateful, awful people that should be eliminated from the gene pool.

lmao

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This UI and your notification icons suggest to me that you might want to try new apps and avenues to the information you seek.

Eximius OP ,

Ah scheisse, my poor phone notification hygiene.

echodot ,

Also your Uber is here.

Wogi ,

You’re clearly just a bot trying to sell him different apps. So am I, I guess? Or is OP the bot and now he bots are talking about the bots?

ogmios ,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

It was quite a while ago that I had heard the majority of internet traffic is from bots. I can imagine it’s significantly worse now, especially with publicly available AI bots.

irreticent ,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar
brygphilomena ,

I don’t think it’s dead Internet theory. But this is more dystopian in that private corporations are censoring our speech and searching based on their own criteria.

I find csam repulsive, but having a corporation or ai restrict unrelated content because their system construes an innocent search as potential bad is almost worst.

Lmaydev ,

They could have just typed lady tbf

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Lady does sound like an older woman. Gal, woman or chick would probably work, but that’s all besides the point, it’s very common to use <whatever> girl as a search term: biker girl, skater girl, ring girl, bikini girl, racer girl, etc. It’s just dumb to automatically assume any search with “girl” means “child”.

Lmaydev ,

Maybe because I’m older idk, but boy and girl make me think of children.

corsicanguppy ,

Maybe because I’m older idk, but boy and girl make me think of children.

I’m so old that I don’t sprinkle my comments with kid-pidgin like ‘idk’, and I don’t equate ‘girl’ with ‘young girl’. Bat Girl, Girl Friday, Ring Girl, “I married a girl right out of college”; it’s about context.

Lmaydev ,

Ok, boomer.

Black_Gulaman ,
@Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Lol what a lame comeback. Gtfo of here you pedo. Girl does not mean child automatically. Context is everything.

RoquetteQueen ,
@RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s more a problem because people don’t really do it for men.

CoolMatt ,

Idk, I’m 31 and my girlfriend is 27. I don’t call her my woman friend or lady friend, and calling her my girlfriend doesn’t really make her sound underage to me

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Especially since “woman friend” and “lady friend” specifically mean “friend who is a female, no romantic entanglement” or “I’m specifically NOT using the word girlfriend here.”

Which does expose kind of a scar on the language; the terms we have for unmarried romantic partners are inherently juvenile, which puts 50 year olds who are dating in the awkward position of calling each other boy and/or girl. Or you get to spit out all ten chapters of the phrase “significant other.”

KISSmyOS , (edited )

Easy solution:
“Hi, have you met Elaine? We fuck.”

echodot ,

The word motorcycle rather implies an age range doesn’t it?

Lmaydev ,

16 in my country. So not necessarily.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Sexy motorcycle grandma.

brygphilomena ,

Never had to design something for the public? Can’t expect everyone to use the exact right terminology.

Lmaydev ,

I doubt searching for softcore pornography was a high priority when building these filters.

lseif ,

may i ask why are you searching that on facebook?

NoSpiritAnimal ,
@NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

Wanted to see sexy motorcycle girls

lseif ,

on facebook ?

NoSpiritAnimal ,
@NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

You find sexy motorcycle girls where you can

lseif ,

i suppose, but i would have thought a normal search engine would yield better results ?

Aurora_TheFirstLight ,

I don’t know what’s your tier list of search engines for smutty stuff

lseif ,

idk but i would guess google, as it seems much better for image results

randomdeadguy ,

Facebook is definitely on the bottom of this list.

TheGrandNagus ,

Maybe he remembered scrolling past a specific picture that he’s trying to find

TORFdot0 ,

Yeah time for OP to go to horny jail

JigglySackles ,

In the end, who cares why. Why does it matter. If you’re just ribbing them nvm, but if it was an actual interrogation, it does not matter why.

shyguyblue ,

There’s a new Kids In The Hall season out on Amazon, and within 5 minutes of the first episode, two main characters are balls-out nude.

I wanted to see if it was a prosthetic, or aue naturale, so I googled “Kids In The Hall nude scene” for some behind the scenes info…

You can imagine my shock when that warning popped up, and fair enough too…

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Just so you can avoid more risky searches, it’s aue naturale, and it’s definitely at least one of the ones you wouldn’t want it to be.

Kevin McDonald has not aged well, so of course he foists his full nude self on us all.

Jimmyeatsausage ,

Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think warning people they might expose themselves to csam meets the definition of “broke the internet”. I bet if you replace “girl” with “woman” you’ll get the expected results.

Flax_vert ,

Why are you looking up “motorcycle girl sexy”?

agressivelyPassive ,

Because of sexy girls on motorcycles for, uhm, scientific reasons?

bfg9k ,

‘hot girl on bike’ has been a staple of garage calendars for decades.

Men like it when two things they like do a crossover lol

GluWu , (edited )

Girl x Excavator crossover just dropped

usualsuspect191 ,

Is that one of them cat girls I keep hearing about?

GluWu ,

Idk, but if it isn’t, I probably have wildly different expectations for cat girls than what they’re talking about.

Obi ,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

Won’t settle for anything else than girl x Bagger 288.

Bach37strad ,

XXXcavator

Land_Strider ,

Do you offer a TV channel for Turkish geezers? It is basically their ancestral pastime to watch maintenance machines work. Women are a sinful addition, though, but a silently welcome one.

Eximius OP ,

Funnily enough, wanted to just find one of those reels where the girl sits on the gas tank in front, legs pincered over the guy, because I wanted to show it to my girlfriend as a thing to do 😄

ogmios ,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

Always wonder about these images. Even without straight up editing them with paint/photoshop you could just search for something explicitly outrageous first, then type something ordinary in the search bar and take a screenshot.

Eximius OP ,

I understand the desire for conspiracy, but I guess try yourself, and if in luck (or you’re in Germany, US, UK) might see same results. 🤷‍♂️

ogmios ,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

People faking images on the internet isn’t conspiracy my dude. @@

Also, I’m not entirely sure which site this person is using.

gila ,

I think it’s plausible here if they integrated AI into the search. AI doesn’t understand context very well, when you say girl it thinks you mean a child

ogmios ,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yea, or perhaps if one of the returned results would have been at issue, even if the search wasn’t seeking such things. Automation has been quite a bit less helpful than people initially imagined.

istanbullu ,

This is why aggressive content moderation is a bad idea.

Gabu ,

No, that’s why content moderation employing a braindead AI and half-baked algorithms is a bad idea. If (and that’s a GIGANTIC if) it was possible to have real humans checking stuff without destroying privacy, aggressive content moderation would be fine. Of course, I’m ignoring stuff like censorship, thoughtpolicing and government-backed oppression as that’s a whole other factory of cans of worms.

istanbullu ,

Content moderation automatically implies AI. There is too much content online to moderate by humans.

gardylou ,

Not necessarily AI, but needs to be handled automatically by software–its far too much for human moderation to be the norm unless you assume masses of completely unpaid labor.

istanbullu ,

yes, that’s what I meant.

pop ,

Google personalises its results based on the user. It’s probably has a history and you’re already on a watchlist.

bitdweller ,

That doesn’t look like Google, more like Facebook?

JaN0h4ck ,

That’s Instagram

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

It’s Instagram, you can try it yourself.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/fbd86b93-c990-493c-8b01-02d1d4fa2e49.gif

TheEighthDoctor ,

Our national train company is called “Comboios de Portugal” imagine searching for CP…

webghost0101 ,

I frequently have to use a piece of software which is called CSAM. I couldn’t find if its an acronym, it appears that’s the literal name of it.

IsThisAnAI ,

Technology has bugs, news at 11.

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