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TheBananaKing , to news in Hamas says no hostage will leave alive unless group's demands met

That’s kind of implied in the concept of hostages, yes.

WhyIDie , to world in Dog disease that can jump to humans is spreading in Britain

had to dig in the article for the means of transmission between dogs and humans, and could only find it from an article linked inside there that mentions "The disease can spread to humans through canine reproductive fluids, but they can be treated with a long, strong course of antibiotics."

The article here also mentions "two people caught it this year from dogs"
...oh. oh dear

WhyIDie , (edited )

reading further, after the knee-jerk:

  • "Of the two cases so far this year, one was in a person who tested positive after being admitted to hospital and the other was an asymptomatic staff member of a veterinary practice."
  • "Only one named individual has previously tested positive – Wendy Hayes, of Stoke, who caught it from a pregnant foster dog she took in from Belarus last year."

half of my loss of faith in humanity from this is restored

electrogamerman ,

Is reproductive liquid what I think it is? You know what, I want to live my life without knowing this.

CeruleanRuin ,

So really the only people at risk from this are breeders. Good. Fuck dog breeders.

Staines , to worldnews in China helping to arm Russia with helicopters, drones and metals

telegraph getting upset about free markets?

SeaJ ,

Does reporting on it mean they are upset?

MultigrainCerealista ,

They exercise editorial control and they exercise it vigorously, so when they report on something it’s for a reason.

Does your comment intend to imply they’re just presenting some economic data points or something? It seems kind of inane to pretend that they don’t have a lens where this is a bad thing. That China bad etc etc.

SeaJ ,

My comment was intending to imply they are not actually upset about this and are reporting on things that will make them money.

GarbageShoot ,

It will make them money from readers being upset about it. The author specializes in anti-China outrage bait.

SeaJ ,

So that would mean others are upset, not them.

combat_brandonism ,
Riffraffintheroom ,

My comment had no purpose other than to be pedantic for it’s own sake because that is how the internet has taught me that intelligence is demonstrated and I want to appear intelligent

Wow neat

SeaJ ,

You seem upset.

trudge ,
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One Chinese company sent 1,000 drones to Russia in the two months before the war, according to figures compiled by Molfar Global, an open source research organisation. That firm, Shantou Honghu Plastics, describes itself as a wholesaler of children’s toys on its website and social media profiles.

They are toy drones lmao. Yeah they seem upset alright.

SeaJ ,

That quote seems very calm to me.

trudge ,
@trudge@hexbear.net avatar

Upset enough to write a whole article about toy drones michael-laugh

SeaJ ,

How does that mean they are upset?

NuXCOM_90Percent , to world in Putin seizes $100m from Google to fund Russia’s war machine (in 2020)

I mean… I am also all for degoogling. But considering they are dealing with illegal attacks by russia because they stood up to war criminals… maybe this is not the best time to campaign against them?

ChlkDstTtr ,

I think we can do both. Google is trying to keep from repatriating profits so they don’t need to pay taxes. Russia took it. Fuck Russia, but I can’t feel too bad for Google.

Dagnet ,

Enemy of my enemy is still my enemy, fuck them both

zik ,

They took them in 2020 while they were pulling out of Russia, not recently.

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

All it does is make it look like a “bitch eating crackers” scenario. With the added benefit of making it sound like people are pro-russia.

SteveFromMySpace , (edited )

they stood up to war criminals

That’s a funny way of spelling “didn’t go out of their way to accommodate a second tier world power and its population that is barely half of the US’s and doesn’t spend a fraction of what other nations do on their enterprise services.”

No financial incentive. Not impressed.

BugKilla , to news in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news
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  • Captain_CapsLock OP ,

    It’s not clear at all that that’s what happened. It is completely plausible that someone would shoot a firearm at a candidate in a hotly contested presidential election. Let wait for evidence to roll in yeah?

    ChihuahuaOfDoom ,

    You know for a fact that if the shoe were on the other foot, this is exactly the rhetoric we’d be hearing.

    Captain_CapsLock OP ,

    You’re right. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit. But I still hold all parties to a standard of honest discourse.

    Lifecoach5000 ,

    Doesn’t make it right or acceptable.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    So let’s not do what they do and live in an evidence-based world and not an emotion-based one.

    The “facts don’t care about your feelings” party doesn’t care about facts and spends a lot of time on how their feelings are hurt.

    octopus_ink ,

    My evidence (in addition to the weirdness of his reaction, and the convenient blood) - has any article mentioned a shooter being seen/shot/arrested/known to exist? I can’t remember a time where there was a shooting and no article said ANYTHING about a shooter, only about the shots. Nothing could be better for the Trump campaign than for him to be “almost” assassinated.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Shooter dead and audience member killed

    A person believed to be a shooter at today’s Donald Trump Pennsylvania rally is dead, as well as an audience member in attendance, the Butler County District Attorney has said.

    In addition to the two fatalities, one other person is believed to be in a critical condition.

    news.sky.com/…/trump-shooting-latest-bloodied-tru…

    octopus_ink ,

    OK fair, I couldn’t find any such reference when I looked, but clearly did a shit job.

    I’m still not capable of believing anything in Trump’s life is genuine, so it still feels staged to me, but I acknowledge that my evidence has been debunked.

    Still true that the Yall’qaeda are going to go into overdrive and I fear for what they do in their bloodlust…

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Sure. It could have been faked.

    On the other hand, if I was an unhinged person with a gun and I thought there was a good chance a fascist dictator might run the U.S., I might be inclined to try to do something about it.

    There’s no reason not to rule something like that out.

    nickhammes ,

    Yeah the truth is we don’t know. There are lots of possible causes we can’t rule out at this point, it seems dangerous for a publicity stunt, but it’s possible. Someone afraid and somewhat unhinged, among other possibilities.

    WanderingVentra ,

    Wonder if this should be posted as a new article to the news communities? It’s important, more relevant information.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Unfortunately that’s just one update on a page with regular updates. You would have to find a better link.

    catloaf ,

    Bruh it happened like an hour ago. But news stories about the shooter being killed are coming out now.

    bolexforsoup ,

    Yes it would be the case. Should we start behaving like right wing conspiracy theorists now?

    Cryophilia ,

    Yeah but that’s because Republicans are fuckin idiots

    retrospectology ,
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    I wouldn’t be surprised either way, honestly. It would be the right timing for a false flag though for sure.

    But then on the other hand this is the prescribed treatment for tyrants, per our fore-bearers.

    bolexforsoup , (edited )

    You’re doing what they do.

    BugKilla ,
    @BugKilla@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes. You are correct. On reflection I should have put quotes around it as it was intented to convey that but not actually imply that it was the case. It is good you called it out.

    shortypants ,

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  • Burn_The_Right , to world in German politician ‘filmed taking Russian money’

    Sure, Germany’s conservatives take payments from Putin just like U.S. conservatives, but how many handjobs have they given in a theater full of kids? They need to step up their conservative game.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
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    Pedophilia has a long and storied tradition in German politics. It’s just part of their culture.

    From the late 1960s until the early 1990s, with the authorization and financial support of the Berlin Senate, Kentler placed neglected youth as foster children in the homes of single pedophile fathers with the ostensible purpose of resocializing them, while explicitly encouraging sexual contact between them.

    T00l_shed ,

    Jesus fucking christ. What a horrible day to be able to read…

    Caitlyynn ,
    @Caitlyynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    What the actual fuck???

    Passerby6497 ,

    I thought that sounded like a Behind the Bastards episode (The School that Raped Everybody), but that looks to be a different German child rape scandal about the Odenwald school.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah, I got this from TrueAnon, although I couldn’t tell you the episode off-hand.

    Ilovethebomb , to world in Tensions grow as 160 tonnes of Ukrainian grain sabotaged in Poland

    Fucking terrorists is what these assholes are.

    intensely_human , to news in Couples race to move frozen embryos out of Alabama after court defines them as children

    COUPLE ATTEMPTS TO SMUGGLE CHILDREN ACROSS STATE LINES

    More at ten

    FryHyde ,

    Massive child trafficking ring brought down in Alabama. Governor to receive medal for outstanding achievement in law enforcement as 700 arrests are performed statewide.

    TWeaK , to technology in BT ‘has failed to invest enough in UK's full-fibre broadband’

    Better headline: UK government have failed to regulate private telecoms industry.

    cm0002 , to news in ‘To hell with this place!’ George Santos ousted from Congress after fabricating life story

    “I’ll make my own Congress, with blackjack and hookers”

    mateomaui ,

    and blow, don’t forget the blow

    1024_Kibibytes ,

    The hookers are likely to be more honest. A congress with Blackjack could be interesting. Okay, I’ll vote for that congress.

    TedJ70 ,
    @TedJ70@aussie.zone avatar

    I was looking for the Bender reference, and you did not disappoint. 👍

    geekworking , to world in Russia spread bedbug panic in France, intelligence services suspect

    Pouring gas on every spark of unrest is too easy nowadays. People believe any random social media post as truth and reject professional news.

    The cost and resources to troll social media is next to nothing. You don’t need to be a nation state.

    I am sure that every country or group who wants to see unrest in western countries is in on this.

    JustZ , to nottheonion in British hunting group to take legal action to become protected minority group. Hunters have good chance of obtaining same status as Gypsies and LGBT people, campaigners say
    @JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

    Campaigners say they have a good chance. Everyone else says they’re fucking morons.

    ImpressiveEssay , to world in Russia jails scientist Alexey Soldatov who pioneered country's internet

    It’s mind boggling how much if a pussy Putin is.

    Putting his tiny penis on display for all…

    Nougat ,

    How dare you mention Putin and tiny penises in the same breath. That is an affront to tiny penises.

    MsPenguinette , to worldnews in Israel threatens to 'take Lebanon back to the stone age'

    Suprising how numb we all are to countries saying they will make an entire population suffer rather than talking about fighting the military. We are just one or two layers away from countries saying “we’ll kill all the babies till they regret even thinking about looking at us sideways”

    Zaktor ,

    We’re there. Netanyahu referenced Amalek in his war speech, a story where god commanded the Jews to kill every last infant of an enemy nation. The deputy speaker in parliament explicitly said there are no innocent civilians in Gaza and it must be wiped off the face of the earth.

    GreenPlasticSushiGrass , to news in Couples race to move frozen embryos out of Alabama after court defines them as children

    I'm not messing with that soft paywall. Are they saying that parents who let their frozen embryos go bad in the freezer are guilty of murder or manslaughter?

    NegativeInf ,

    That’s one interpretation. The judge used religious logic in his ruling.

    FenrirIII ,
    @FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

    Fucking Christian whackos

    Uranium3006 ,
    @Uranium3006@kbin.social avatar

    we need to get religion out of our society, it causes nothing but problems.

    Daft_ish ,

    You don’t understand. This old book told me all the answers to life’s mysteries. WoOoOooo it’s infallible.

    God it would be funny/sad if someone found a copy of Mike Pences auto biography 10,000 years after some cataclysm destroyed society. Than they started worshiping it.

    FuglyDuck ,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    WoOoOooo

    You said it wrong. You failed your attempt at conversion.

    Wololo. Wololo. Wololo.

    Welcome to the Huns.

    aniki ,

    Why are my clothes red?

    FuglyDuck ,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    My dad was one of those jerks that would build 30-40 priests on an Econ build and then push with them when you decided to try and crack that nut,

    Poof there goes your army.

    Not that he really knew what an Econ build was, or any of the other things. But he’d play this “I don’t know what I’m doing” act and get away with it, (and he wasn’t good enough to deserve a feudal rush. Just… annoying.)

    tryptaminev ,

    These kind of “Christians” are about as christian as the people from Sodom.

    That doesn’t make it right to fuck things up for everyone else.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Sorry, that’s a no true Scotsman fallacy.

    It doesn’t matter if they aren’t Christ-like. Many, many Christians, including clergy and even pontiffs have committed atrocities. They still worshiped Christ, making them Christians.

    If we were to play it your way, the Crusaders weren’t Christians, the Spanish Inquisition weren’t Christians, the Conquistadors weren’t Christians, etc. I don’t think that’s what you intend, but that is the problem with suggesting people who are not Christlike are not Christians.

    Otherwise, we need to invent a new religion and put a huge percentage of people from the last 2000 years who thought they were called Christians into it.

    SaltySalamander ,
    @SaltySalamander@kbin.social avatar

    If we were to play it your way, the Crusaders weren’t Christians, the Spanish Inquisition weren’t Christians, the Conquistadors weren’t Christians, etc

    All of the above are Catholic, and the vast majority of Christians I know would agree that they aren't Christian.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    That is not only another No True Scotsman fallacy, it’s also anecdotal.

    Catholics are undeniably Christians no matter what other Christians may think. Catholicism likely came before their sect anyway.

    treefrog ,

    That may be but the original point you seemed to make was broader.

    I.e. you just moved the goal post because of the examples.

    Are Prosperity Theology Christian’s not really Christian?

    btw, the buddha wasn’t a buddhist, and christ wasn’t a christian. Let go of identity views and just do the next right thing.

    The world is tribal enough.

    PRUSSIA_x86 ,

    Catholics are the OG Christians, despite what all the seething Protestants might tell you.

    tryptaminev ,

    Nope. That would be the orthodox christians you still find sprinkled around Palestine and Syria. The catholics are already roman “lets stabilize our empire with mixing religion and poltiics” brand of christians.

    Flumpkin ,

    They are fascists. Fascist christians vs christians.

    tryptaminev ,

    If you read the fallacy you’d realize that you fell into the false fallacy fallacy.

    To quote your linked article:

    No true Scotsman or appeal to purity is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect their generalized statement from a falsifying counterexample by excluding the counterexample improperly.[1][2][3] Rather than abandoning the falsified universal generalization or providing evidence that would disqualify the falsifying counterexample, a slightly modified generalization is constructed ad-hoc to definitionally exclude the undesirable specific case and similar counterexamples by appeal to rhetoric.

    There is plenty of countries with a christian background and still majority christian population, that wouldn’t even think to discuss such absurd policies. American nutjobs cannot be considered to be representative of christianity as a whole. Much of their nutjobbery is specific to them.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    American nutjobs cannot be considered to be representative of christianity as a whole.

    No one said they were. They aren’t. But they are Christians. That is their religion even if you don’t like that it is the same as yours.

    tryptaminev ,

    That is not the true scotsman fallacy though. I never said they aren’t Christians, i said that they are about as christian as, implying that they lack the qualities associated with it. Also i’m not a christian.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I think you’re misremembering. You did say they aren’t Christians:

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2901409e-1ce1-40d8-8c87-cd8a43393a8d.png

    BrokenGlepnir ,

    I’ve been thinking of them as antichristian. Not as in against Christianity, but as in antichrist …ian. From what I’ve heard the whole idea of the antichrist is supposed to be that Christians love the guy even though the guy goes against all of the lessons of Jesus, but he does the performative stuff. That sounds like what I see there.

    TengoDosVacas ,

    Christianity is an evil ideology, and they are acting as christians.

    TengoDosVacas ,

    It is absolutely an evil ideology and shut be utterly abolished along with all Abrahamic religions. Fuck the Constitution; they got this one dead wrong

    Scubus ,

    *theistic religions

    Believing that the flying spaghetti monster will solve all the worlds issues means you don’t function in society

    TengoDosVacas ,

    Sad that you have not been touched by His noodly appendage. Perhaps one day, Ramen

    FuglyDuck ,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    to be fair, the (wrongful death*) lawsuit was because the hospital or wherever they were being stored at let the frozen embryos die off. It’s entirely reasonable to expect some kind of… protection… considering the reason for those to have been stored was so they might be able to have kids, etc.

    *wrongful death is a bit much, mind you. But how far do you want to take the “guy beats a pregnant woman to kill the baby” types of charges? ultimately, I suspect, the issue here is that the religious nutjobs lack nuance. they see the world as black-and-white and can’t fathom a possibility where there were damages in this matter, but it wasn’t a “wrongful death” scenario.

    Whattrees ,
    @Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    From what I’ve previously read the agency that had the frozen embryos did not let them die off, they stored them properly in an industrial freezer kept at far below 0 temps. The issue was a person who didn’t work at the clinic snuck into the room with the fridge, opened it and then dropped the embryos and ran away (the article said the assumption was because the containers were so cold he got freeze-burned). There might be a case here that they didn’t do enough to stop the individual, or check on them often enough, I don’t know enough details to know, but it doesn’t sound like they just simply didn’t care or didn’t store them properly.

    States have long had laws against forcibly ending someone else’s pregnancy and those have stood up even before Roe died. It’s not usually on the level of murder/manslaughter, but at a minimum it’s been treated as a destruction of property. You don’t have to treat the embryo as a person to charge someone with aggravated battery or something similar.

    The main issue here is the broadness of this ruling (besides the whole quoting the Bible thing) which equates embryos with full-human life. It won’t change a whole lot in this case, the families could have still sued for negligence or destruction of property, or any number of other civil remedies of this was denied, but now it’s laid the ground work to do much worse things in the future.

    lolcatnip ,

    How could it be battery if the embryos aren’t treated as people? Nobody was battered. No victim was even present.

    FuglyDuck ,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    For the record, if we treat this more like a safety deposit box; the couple are the victims here.

    It should probably be treated that way.

    Their argument is because those embryos had potential to be human… they should be treated as human.

    I don’t buy it, and it’s certainly not something that should establish the precedent that embryos=babies.

    KairuByte ,
    @KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    So sue for property damage. Harvesting embryos is an expensive and painful process. Hell you could even sue for pain and suffering.

    But wrongful death is just ridiculous.

    FuglyDuck ,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    Gee, that’s…. More or less what I’m saying?

    Whattrees ,
    @Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Sorry for the confusion, the battery part of my reply was related to forcibly ending someone else’s pregnancy, which would have to involve some kind of battery unless it’s like poison or something, not related to the embryos in the freezer. There is no battery to those since they are not people.

    FuglyDuck , (edited )
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    Looking close, you’re right. Vandals got in.

    I would suggest the facility was negligent in their security arrangements, as far as wrongful death (again, it’s a pretty dubious “if”, that it goes that far), it would be like somebody dying because the building wasn’t up to code when an arson came by.

    My assumption is, though, that there’s a budget-rate warm body security guard; and between shit pay, shit training, shittier oversight… the guard couldn’t be arsed to care. (Alternatively, the guard was going to sell them for drug money.)

    The good news for the facility… if their lawyers were any good in that contract they’d have gotten an indemnity clause and can pass that buck. (Liability is a bitch; and she hits hard. The security company will probably go poof unless they’re the size of G4S or Securitas)

    In any case… personally, it doesn’t rise to wrongful death, but I can see a need for nuance. I would, personally, suggested the couple treat it as property, similar to a safety deposit box.

    billiam0202 ,

    The judge used religious logic religion in his ruling.

    Ain’t no logic to be found there.

    Scubus ,

    Well it says here you are bread, and as such are guilty of cannibalism.

    MonkderZweite , (edited )

    Pretty sure personal beliefs which haven’t been proven should make the ruling invalid. He’s judge, not king.

    Overzeetop ,

    I don’t see how this isn’t prima facie evidence of a first amendment violation (presuming that the courts or state legislatures are bound by “Congress” being synonymous with “Government” as I believe it’s been interpreted)

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