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blahsay , to funny in unusable mouse

This must be a joke. That can’t actually be how they designed it right?

NounsAndWords ,

They really didn’t want you using it as a wired mouse. Because aesthetics.

Agent641 ,

Aesthetically this looks way dumber than a wired mouse.

Blisterexe ,

So that when other people see that you’re using the mouse wirelessly, because apple cares about how others perceive your product that you bought, not you.

Jax , (edited )

I mean, Apple users care more about how they’re perceived using an Apple product rather than the cost-to-quality ratio of the product itself. Why wouldn’t Apple cater to that? It’s like printing money, and Apple users are so fucking cult-ish they fixate on things like green text messages.

Blisterexe ,

The best examples of that, is how apple made headphones that yellow, but only the part thats in your ear, so you see it, but nobody else does, and you get temped to buy new ones.

Hildegarde ,

The gen 1 mouse had removable batteries connected to a door on the bottom.

The gen 2 mouse went with a rechargable battery, but they didn’t want to retool the factories making the top shell, so they couldn’t put the charging port anywhere other than the bottom part they were redesigning.

Just charge the mouse overnight when you’re not using it. Also the charge cable disables the sensor so you can’t fix this “design feature” by modifying the mouse. Why not buy the desktop trackpad if you really need an input device when your mouse is charging?

Darkassassin07 , (edited )
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Why should I buy two devices to do the same job, where a single device from any other sane manufacturer would function 100% of the time? Especially after paying a premium for the branded device?

Pay more to get problems others don’t have, then pay even more on top to solve those problems…

Hildegarde ,

You don’t become a trillion dollar company by selling people things they need. The strategy is to induce demand.

Apple designs products so that when broken it requires a repair that costs 50-75% the cost of the device if repaired by Apple. If you’re paying that much to fix it you might as well just buy a new one.

The apple vision pro is glued together, the outer shell and internal lenses have highly scratchable plastic on the outside. Want to fix it, over a thousand. They can’t just remove some screws replace the broken part. This is a deliberate design decision.

It’s not about making good products, it’s about money. If you decide buy a trackpad for when your mouse is charging, apple make bank.

Jax ,

I would love for an evironmental protection agency to hold corporations accountable for designed obsolescence.

Hildegarde ,

do you even regulatory capture, bro?

Michal ,

Charge the mouse over night 😂

The magic mouse is just shit with crappy ergonomics and user-hostile design like most of their hardware. It’s just pretty to look at.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I don’t even think it’s pretty to look at, it’s honestly quite boring. Then again, I don’t like how any of Apple’s hardware looks, so I guess I’m not the target market.

nxdefiant ,

Or buy literally any other mouse that you can use while charging…

Death_Equity ,

But my aesthetic!

WoodenBleachers ,
@WoodenBleachers@lemmy.world avatar

Usability too. The hybrid touch/mouse combo hasn’t been implemented better elsewhere (as far as I’m aware) and I find touchpad functionality like that very good. I have to work on a windows laptop for work and I game on a windows machine, but my personal laptop was an $800 Mac and the touchpad and window management is leagues above my $1400 work Windows

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Yup, I have a Logitech MX Master 3 at work and it works just fine while charging. Oh, and it has two real scroll wheels, a thumb button (great for switching workspaces), and is really comfortable to use. A magic mouse has none of those things.

At home I have a Logitech Triathlon at home, which I actually like better. There’s no horizontal scroll wheel, but the vertical scroll can tick side to side to get the same effect. It’s smaller, uses AA batteries, is more convenient to switch devices (I have it connected to my Steam Deck and another laptop), and the thumb button is easier to press.

I really don’t like the magic mouse. To be honest, I also don’t like my MacBook Pro, but I need it for work, so whatever. I guess I’m just not the target market.

Surp ,
@Surp@lemmy.world avatar

It’s 100% true

jerrythegenius ,
@jerrythegenius@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah it’s real. My parents have one.

zzx , to lemmyshitpost in Relationship advice?

I fucking hate this guy

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This post gave me the idea to idea to text the wife. As a millenial. I’m doing my part.

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baseless_discourse , to programmer_humor in remember, if your gf isn't open source and running locally, you don't own her

Ha, like “real girlfriend” is a thing.

Happy valentine’s day, everyone!

squid_slime , to lemmyshitpost in Relationship advice?
@squid_slime@lemmy.world avatar

Ive no plan to meet second best nor be second best and I wouldn’t want to put someone through that nor go through it.

We live in a world of consumption and throw away culture, we should have more respect then to inflict these ideas on living breathing and feeling people.

Fuck that guy and his creed.

Tyfud ,

I seriously doubt that’s his creed.

It’s clearly meant as a parody of the way relationships end, but said out loud, in advance, to show the absurdity of exactly what you called out: “trading up” out of a relationship.

The whole point of his post, was to get people to realize how shitty it is to think of people that way.

squid_slime ,
@squid_slime@lemmy.world avatar

No this guy is a guru and has influenced a lot of silicon valley with this type of “parody” look him up if you haven’t already.

Tyfud ,

Oof, fair enough. I just ran head first into Poe’s law. Thank you for the added context. Yeah, he’s a piece of shit then.

Siegfried ,

Correction, you wouldnt be second best, you would be the second best she/he could find

doctorcrimson , to programmer_humor in remember, if your gf isn't open source and running locally, you don't own her

I’ve seen like 5 posts about “AI BF/GF” today and it never ceases to surprise me how fucking easy it is to dupe people with these products, like holy shit humanity is fucked.

I’m always waiting for another ethical disaster trend to end but everybody is always in line for Mr Bonez Wild Ride.

FractalsInfinite ,

If all you need is a one sided conversation designed to make you feel better, LLM’s are great at concocting such “pep talks”. For some, that just might be enough to male it believable. The Turing test was cracked years ago, only now do we have access to things that can do that for free*.

butterflyattack ,

A pretty early chatbot called Eliza simulated a non-directive psychotherapist. It kind of feels like they’ve improved hugely but not really changed much.

doctorcrimson ,

Nah, bullshit, so far these LLM’s are as likely to insult or radicalize you as comfort you. That won’t ever be solved until AGI becomes commonplace, which won’t be for a long ass time. These products are failures at launch.

FractalsInfinite ,

… Have you tried any of the recent ones? As it stands chatGPT and Gemini are both built with guardrails strong enough to require custom inputs to jailbreak, with techniques such as Reinforcement learning from Human Feedback uses to lobotomize misconduct out of the AI’s.

doctorcrimson ,

HaVE yOu trIED iT bEfOrE? fOr SIMplE tAskS it SaVEs Me A lOt oF timE AT wOrK

JFC a skipping record plays right on queue whenever somebody speaks ill of the GPTs and LLMs.

Krauerking ,

It’s wild that people brag that it’s able to do essentially the same as copying and pasting someone else’s basic code but with only a few extra imagined errors sprinkled in for fun but that just makes it more useful for pretending you aren’t again lljust literally copying someone else’s stuff.

It’s a search engine that makes up 1/8 of all it says. But sure it’s super useful.

doctorcrimson ,

Sometimes it generates its own fake documentation when called out on a lie.

FractalsInfinite ,

… Don’t pull a strawman, all I said is that the AI’s designed to approximate human written text, do a good job at approximating human text.

This means you can use them to simulate a reddit thread or make a fake wikipedia page, or construct a set of responses to someone who wants comfort.

Next time, read what someone actually says, and respond to that.

doctorcrimson ,

Oh thanks, I really wanted to read another defence of an unethical product by some fanboy with no life. I’m so glad you managed to pick up on that based on my previous comments. I love it. You chose a great conversation to start here.

FractalsInfinite ,

The tech is great at pretending to be human. It is simply a next “word” (or phrase) predictor. It is not good at answering obscure questions, writing code or making a logical argument. It is good at simulating someone.

It is my experience that it approximates a human well, but it doesn’t get the details right (like truthness or reflecting objective reality), making it useless for essay writing, but great for stuff like character AI and other human simulations.

If you are right, give an actual Iogical response only capable by a human, as opposed to a generic ad hominem. I repeat my question, Have you actually used any of the GPT3 era models?

doctorcrimson ,

They forgot to put in the quit when they built this one. You should be in the porn industry.

FractalsInfinite ,

Indeed, I don’t think I can convince you at this point, so enjoy the touch of grass

Gabu ,

Is it really duping, though? The way I see it, most of these people are perfectly aware of what they’re doing.

doctorcrimson ,

It’s a very nuanced situation, but the people being sold these products and buying them are expecting a sentient robot lover. They’re getting another shitty chatbot that inevitably fails to meet bare minimum companionship standards such as not berating you.

There currently exists no ethical use of LLM AI. Your comment can be construed as defence of malicious people and actions.

Cethin ,

I’ve never met anyone who uses them, but I’m also not sure people actually think it’s sentient. I’m sure some do, but I’d assume the vast majority are just looking to have a conversation, and they don’t care if it’s with a person or a (pretty good) chat bot.

Also, there is a way to use it ethically. As the post mentions, run it locally and know what you’re doing with it. I don’t see any issues if you’re aware of what it is, just as I don’t see any issue using auto-correct or any other technology. We don’t need to go full Butlerian (yet).

Krauerking ,

Really? You don’t think anyone that uses these don’t think they are sentient?

Sure it’s not like the people designing these are prone to make-believing the AI for sentient too, right?

You are coming at this from your perspective which knows them to not be real. That’s not gonna be how the average moron thinks and there is more of them than you think. And they absolutely believe their is a tiny sentient brain somewhere in there that is alive. I’m all for people doing what makes them happy but also this is a loneliness confirming hole to get trapped in and absolutely opens doors to influence people through their imaginary friends that they think they can trust.

eskuero , to programmer_humor in remember, if your gf isn't open source and running locally, you don't own her
@eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws avatar

can i selfhost an ai girlfriend in my pi3

abies_exarchia ,
kionite231 ,

She will take care of ads and malware. :)

alphacyberranger ,
@alphacyberranger@lemmy.world avatar

She always carries protection

I_am_10_squirrels ,

Don’t stick it in the pi hole without protection, you don’t want to catch a virus

Honytawk ,

The usb-c port is too small

I_am_10_squirrels ,

Maybe for you, but nothings too small for me!

FractalsInfinite ,

Yes using llama.cpp. Be warned without a GPU or strong SIMD, it will be incredibly slow

Gabu ,

I won’t touch the obvious joke here with a 10 foot pole.

eskuero ,
@eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws avatar

shitjustworks

peter , to programmer_humor in remember, if your gf isn't open source and running locally, you don't own her
@peter@feddit.uk avatar

If the service is free you are the product. That’s why I pay my girlfriend

baseless_discourse ,

Does your girlfriend pay you too?

embed_me ,
@embed_me@programming.dev avatar

😮

Am I the product?

Grunt4019 ,

Oftentimes now if the service is paid, you’re still the product!

gareppa , to lemmyshitpost in Relationship advice?
@gareppa@programming.dev avatar

If you ever think abour that, Eliezer, I’ll get you bitten by Roko’s basilisk.

His gf

cupcakezealot , to programmerhumor in IT Help Desk
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

thabk goodness 2004 avoided the activex and browser toolbar phase

speck , to funny in unusable mouse

Why is this in /funny??

Darkassassin07 ,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Because it’s hilariously bad design.

GBU_28 ,

Lemmy only knows how to be upset, so even “jokes” need to be upsetting

MonkderZweite ,

Looks funny.

nitefox , to unixporn in [KDE Plasma] Simple?

What’s that Lemmy theme?

Pssk OP ,
@Pssk@lemmy.ml avatar

gruvbox colours in dark reader

a4ng3l , to funny in unusable mouse

Yeah well that’s not the worst honestly… I have the exact model and for reasons I cannot explain the ergonomics are incomparable with me. And I’m a mac user for my music production activities so it’s not like I’m a hater - I really don’t care. But I’ll stick to only using the touchpad on my mac book pro.

BolexForSoup ,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

I’ll stick to only using the touchpad

That’s a one-way ticket to carpal tunnel my friend. Just get a nice, non-apple mouse. That’s what I did and I couldn’t be happier. Video editor, so we largely work the same way.

Plus with even a cheap mouse these days you can customize different buttons - great for your workflow.

Trust me when I say this, wrist pain does not seem like a big deal until it starts happening. Then it affects literally everything you do. It took me months to get mine under control, it was awful. And now I have to constantly be taking preventative measures in a way I didn’t have to even just a few years ago. Admittedly this was largely due to using my phone too much, but I also relied too much on cheap mice and trackpads.

Jesus_666 ,

Grip style. People grip their mice in different ways and the Magic Mouse really doesn’t work for palm grippers. For fingertip grippers it’s one of the most comfortable mice ever made; for everyone else it’s hot garbage.

glimse ,

I’m a palm gripper and was using a Mac at work when this came out. I begged them to order me a real mouse within a month

The only thing I liked about it were the gestures but Ctrl+scroll zooming works fine

Scolding7300 ,

My carpal tunnel remembers as well

pudcollar , to funny in unusable mouse

I’ve been riding one pretty hard for my job for half a decade. It’s pretty nice actually, I like the 2-axis touch scrolling. I wish it had a middle click, it’s way too expensive, and last time I tried to get it working with Linux it was a fucking nightmare.

Anticorp ,

BetterTouchToolUI and set a middle click gesture. I consider that software mandatory for Max OS, and it’s ridiculous that the features aren’t built into the OS.

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