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sharkaccident , to memes in Rent is Robbery

Everyone paints landlords as money grubbing evil people. I own a couple rental houses and set prices so that my return is 7% annually. While that may paint me as the description above realize this; that price was set when I set a tenant and only increases with inflation. The majority of my units are 25% below market rates because once I have a good tenant I don’t see a reason to make more work for me. 7% return and I never hear from them is worth it in my mind.

Grayox OP ,
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There are very few jobs that actually give annual raises that keep up with inflation. You are no better than corporations that raise the price of food for no reason, other than following an arbitrary market metric(inflation) You should give your tenants 3 months free rent for Christmas, and give them the option to buy the properties from you for what you bought them for, and get a real job.

aes ,

What part of 25% below market makes you compare him to the food oligopoly? He likes trouble-free tenants, and I’m pretty sure his tenants like this arrangement too. By contast, you come off as very tiresome. Do you have any skin in the game? What are you doing to help make housing affordable? Do you do anything besides exemplify why having revolutionaries in charge would be terrifying?

Grayox OP ,
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What part about 25% below market makes them a hero, while they are actively hoarding properties keeping prospective buyers out of the market, raising prices to keep up with “inflation” on a commodity necessary for survival IS the exact same thing the food oligopolies are doing. And wtf are you on about having skin in the game? I pay $1700 a month in a rent controlled apartment and have no hope of buying a actual property in the market i live in without having to move hours away from work. I would love to hear what you think i should be doing to help make affordable housing, cause if its within my means, ill do it.

aes ,

Well, there’s some timeless advice on these topics, right? The simplest is: be likeable. The reason is that since you can’t accomplish the task on your own, you need people to take your side, and to do that you need them to want you win, whatever the arguments. (“that’s dumb, my argument is better”. Yeah, maybe, but if people don’t like you, that won’t matter)

Another, more focused on societal change is: Move the middle. The middle of the bell curve is where most of everything is, and moving it, even slightly, can have dramatic effects. Also, if you want get anywhere, getting going at all is probably a good move, right? I’m thinking specifically of sorting recycling: it’s mostly bullshit, but the bizdev bros would murder for that kind of ‘engagement’. It’s easier to sell everyone on next step when they’re already on board…

Or, you know, rant about revolution. It’s not going to change anything, but it might make you feel better.

Grayox OP ,
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Lol be likeable?! Nah not gonna delute my message to be likeable to landlord’s or folks who have rent seeking behaviors, I’ll just keep pointing the inherent flaws and hypocrisy of capitalism in meme format to hasten its end, not trying to lead any van guard, merely raising the dial of class conciousness, I see no need to be nice to landlord’s who are leeching off of society, but I wont go so far as to say they deserve the wall. I haven’t ranted once about revolution in this thread nor have I read all the comments in it which I assume is what you are referring to, but you must recognize that when peaceful revolution is impossible violent revolution is inevitable, and I know which side I would support when push came to shove and if you would support the side that has exploited the working class for decades just because you want to be a landlord you are no comrade of mine.

Jadesayade ,

Lemmy can be such a hateful place sometimes. Mom and Pop landlords such as yourself are not the problem. I would assume that most people renting from you are not in a situation where they can buy a house yet. Providing them a place at a reasonable price gives them the opportunity to save for a house of their own. I think just about everybody who has bought a house had to rent first, including myself, without available rentals what would we do?

archomrade ,

Our individualistic culture makes people incapable of seeing the problem systemically, and instead they cry when they feel like a critique of the system feels like a personal assault of an individual’s character.

It’s not fucking about landlords ‘being decent people’, it’s about a system that profits from the systemic disenfranchisement of the working class.

In the same way ‘all cops are bastards’ because the profession is built around protecting the capitalist class by oppressing the working class, ‘all landlords are bastards’ too.

Asafum ,

The only issue I have is with the types that rent part of their house at a price that’s well above their mortgage payments. I hate that everyone just shrugs and says “the market has spoken! Some website said I could get 2k for a studio basement apartment so that’s the price!”

I can’t say I like people buying multiple houses and then renting them so there is less for everyone who wants to buy, but I can be somewhat sympathetic to the idea that there really are people who just want to rent a house for a handful of years and then move on so in that case it really is a service.

My last landlord charged 1200 for a basement… His mortgage was less than $900… Yeah yeah taxes and whatnot, but the point remains that I should not be paying all of your expenses for the “luxury” of renting a basement…

RupeThereItIs ,

Ok, then don’t.

Go find another place to live.

SilentStorms ,

That’s the punchline of this joke. You can’t. They’re all like this.

Stop pretending the free market provides infinite choices that we can jump to if we don’t like something. That’s not a thing outside of like, some consumer goods.

RupeThereItIs ,

I’m not pretending.

I’m pointing out the flaw it the whining.

There’s a lot of should and shouldn’t statements that are just wish fulfillment and not reality.

Now that you’re done bitching about the housing crisis…what’s your actual proposed solution?

Should we take the home from the guy renting you that apartment so you can have it? Force lower rents, leaving him unmotivated to bother renting it?

What’s your point beyond rents are too high? We all know there’s a problem, how do you propose we fix it, because landlords aren’t the root of the issue but this whole thread seems to want to pretend they are.

Asafum ,

They are the market. Who else sets prices other than landlords? How can a “rent is too high” issue not be a landlord issue?

It’s a greed issue. “They get x amount so I should too.” Then someone decides it’s a new year so the prices go up and the same thing happens (now accelerated by algorithms that grab data about market prices) and the landlords look around again and say “they’re getting more so I should too, it would be stupid for me not to!”

Who else sets the prices for them to be too high in the first place if not landlords?

My uneducated solution is price caps based on some calculation of a typical income for the local area (NOT a family income, we don’t need more of this “2 people are required” bullshit.) If that means some people that could afford more are getting cheap rent I don’t care as long as it means the typical Joe who can’t afford to buy has options that don’t leave them perpetually unable to save. If that leaves some people unmotivated to rent that’s fine too, in my experience there are plenty of homeowners who want/need to rent their basement/garage/etc to cover their expenses.

Alsephina , (edited )

that price […] increases with inflation

While the vast majority of wages don’t, not nearly enough to keep with inflation. Surely you can see the problem here, right? I agree with op that you should get a real job.

But yeah, putting the blame on individual landlords isn’t very productive. The core issue here is the capitalist system that allows landlords to exist in the first place.

uSpetzWon , to memes in Rent is Robbery

Stop crying and provide housing for yourself then.

Grayox OP ,
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archomrade ,

Mao has entered the chat

captainlezbian , to memes in Tis the Season

It’s axial tilt right?

Xariphon , to memes in Happy Christian Pride Month!

Just don't remind them how many pagan symbols are in there.

Happy Sol Invictus, everyone.

proudblond ,

Gotta admit, as an agnostic who was raised gently Christian, that’s part of the reason I’m still comfortable putting all this stuff up in our house. Took a while to figure out a tree topper I liked but one year a saw a dove and that feels less religious to me.

drekloge ,

We use a stuffed hamster toy with a santa hat.

Call it the “Ham-star”

drekloge ,

We use a stuffed hamster toy with a santa hat.

Call it the “Ham-star”

SapphironZA ,

Love it!

DoctorWhookah ,

Got a Santa hat on top of ours.

Stalinwolf ,
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We just use a Santa hat. Looks great as a topper. Gotta tilt it slightly.

proudblond ,

Oh yeah, the tilt would make it. I’m fond of wild birds so a bird on my tree made sense. Also, to quote Portlandia, “put a bird on it!”

Stalinwolf ,
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The recurring use of the word bird throughout that series is one of my favorite parts of the show. I love Birdman, the Australian mullet adventurah who shows about at the Air B&B togoonawalkabewt

“What’s a robin?”

“It’s a little bidder!”

name_NULL111653 ,

Góður Jól!

Xariphon ,

Skol!

Malgas ,

“You got your Saturnalia on my Yule!”

“You got your Yule on my Saturnalia!”

Siegfried ,

May Jesus come into your house aswell

Legendsofanus ,
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Why

funkless_eck ,

do a little dance

make a lil love

get down tonight

Legendsofanus ,
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Fine but I’m not getting down

LemmyKnowsBest ,

look at all those lights. Jesus came all over that house. Jesus is the light of the world.

HelixDab2 , to memes in Rent is Robbery

I was a landlord for a little while, renting 1 unit in a 2 unit house.

I could have afforded my mortgage and taxes without the tenant.

They couldn’t have qualified for a mortgage, and couldn’t afford to rent a place half as nice anywhere else in the city because I was charging about half of the market rate.

That’s not the same as profiteering corporate landlords, no. But a one-size-fits-all solution isn’t going to get people where they need to be either.

SapphironZA , to memes in Happy Christian Pride Month!

If you should shout “happy holidays” in front of that house, it all just catches fire instantly.

Thoughts and prayers for the family loving under such dangerous circumstances.

LemmyKnowsBest ,

family loving

i guess the typo still makes sense

Commiunism ,

I get that it’s a joke, but “happy holidays” isn’t a secular alternative to “merry christmas”, as the word “holidays” is literally the words “holy” + “day”.

🤓

MystikIncarnate , to memes in Happy Christian Pride Month!

I think this is their version of fighting back.

I’m just going to come out and say it. Have your Christmas. Nobody else gives a shit about you or what you believe. So celebrate, enjoy. Nobody cares if you do. You don’t have to prove anything to anyone about it, and we wouldn’t notice if you tried.

So Merry Christmas, happy Festivus, happy holidays, happy Hanukkah… Whatever you celebrate at this time of year, I hope it’s a positive experience and that you and your loved ones enter into the new year as happy and as healthy as they can be.

But don’t mistake that sentiment for giving any shits about what you do to celebrate.

JargonWagon , to memes in Rent is Robbery

ITT: No one understands the benefits of renting over owning a home.

letsgo ,

Well in theory it makes you more mobile (if you want/need to move for some reason): just give your landlord notice and move out. Whereas selling can take an indefinite amount of time.

JargonWagon ,

Yeah, not to mention the responsibilities that a landlord has when it comes to maintenance on the property. I was saying no one else in this thread gets that there are benefits to renting, even though there are.

knfrmity , to memes in Rent is Robbery

A home is for living in. A person has one body, therefore one home per person/family unit is an appropriate number. Corporations have no bodies, therefore they do not need homes.

Not only is rent robbery, but private property in itself has its origins in theft.

Grayox OP , to memes in An Academy award or Oscar at least.
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Meowoem ,

That’s exactly what I came in here to post

Grayox OP ,
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My partner and I were tearing up by the end, it was so well done!

RaoulDook , to memes in An Academy award or Oscar at least.

No, how about an essay is an essay, no matter if you film yourself reading it or not. The content of the message is what is important, not the medium it’s presented in.

FireRetardant ,

As true as that is, video essays may reach a wider audience due to their visual component that can keep people interested. Most people would rather watch a video than read an essay or listen to one.

Most people who make video essay videos include relevant footage, graphs/charts and diagrams, not just them sitting there and reading.

9point6 ,

Was gonna say, a video essay is almost an entirely distinct form of media from a written essay. And to conflate the two really disregards and diminishes a lot of the creative process that goes behind both.

A good written essay might make a terrible video essay, and vice versa.

SnotFlickerman ,
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Marshall McLuhan might disagree.

The medium is the message.

dmonzel ,
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Do you think a video essay is just someone reading off of a piece of paper in front of a camera?

RaoulDook ,

Yep that’s what it means, a video of an essay. Unless you’re down with El Hombre or the vatos

KeenFlame ,

No

ook_the_librarian ,
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Are you upset that the Oscars only consider films and not books?

wolfshadowheart ,

Producing a video and writing an essay are two very different forms of work.

But because there is a similar end result does not mean the process is remotely the same.

9point6 , to memes in An Academy award or Oscar at least.

Wouldn’t it just be hbomberguy’s yearly video?

rotopenguin ,
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I think this is plainly referring to TechConnections talking about light switches.

9point6 ,

Oh shit, you’re right, okay game on

Will it be decided by a tournament bracket?

Grayox OP ,
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He would certainly receive a nomination every year if the category existed

GlitchyDigiBun , to memes in An Academy award or Oscar at least.
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Ahoy should host

TalesFromTheKitchen ,
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He’d get the special fx award for his motion graphics.

Klystron , to memes in An Academy award or Oscar at least.
Grayox OP ,
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Cant wait to check it out!!

davel , to programmerhumor in Never Do Friday Deploys
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Hexbear deployed on Xmas eve day. They truly are sicko-yes

riseuppikmin ,
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Wildest plan I’ve ever seen respect to the instance operators

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