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hark , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.
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Success or failure depends on the goal. Perhaps outside observers can see something as a failure or success, but that doesn’t matter since you set the goals. As for which Lemmy community to post this to, I dunno.

Diplomjodler3 , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

If you close a business without going bankrupt, that is not failure.

milicent_bystandr ,

Sounds like a crazy idea to me. Next you’ll be saying, end a TV show before the ratings have plummeted to zero.

mudmaniac ,

Best to end it while you are still “Master of your Domain”.

milicent_bystandr ,

> climb the ranks of the navy
> become “Admiral and Master of the Fourth Sea”
> end it with a splash, a crack, a gurgle, and a “Captain goes down with his ship!”

> BBC pulls in a new actor for your role and carries on two seasons more before abruptly stopping and still doesn’t resolve your storyline.

ryathal ,

I’d say it depends on the trajectory, closing a month or two before bankruptcy isn’t really a success.

Hugh_Jeggs ,

If you part before death, that is a failed marriage tho

Godric , (edited )

I am a Trump level successful businessperson, I gathered 132.5 gorillion in investment dollars, pissed 130.75 away on becoming the biggest name in Dwarven Cuck Hentai, and sold it to a Google for .0008 gorillion, half of which was mine!

Pure profit, baybee!

TheBlue22 , to memes in Fascism everywhere

Ah, yes, of course, and Russia is a beautiful country, not doing imperialism right now. They are definitely not murdering innocent people on the daily

BachenBenno ,

Well, Russia not being in the image doesn’t mean they are not fascist, still wonder why OP wouldn’t add them though, hope they are not a Russia shill 💀

TheBlue22 ,

They literary have NATO and Ukraine as “fascist”. They are a Russia shill

BachenBenno ,

I would say both sides are fascist Libya is the best example for Nato fascism. They nationalised the oil to benefit the people and stop western cooperations from pillaging them and got invaded by Nato forces to go from one of the most prosperous countries in Africa to a failed state with an open air slave market. Had nothing to do with human rights. And Ukraine has a Nazi problem. Not a reason to invade of course (I hate the Russian government too) but just reality.

davel ,
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Best of luck. Burgerlanders tend not to stray outside the Five Eyes corporate media bubble while imagining themselves well-informed.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/82ed5e68-fa48-446b-b38d-ef9282216a83.jpeg

Three women, loads of lies and the destruction of Libya

Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice and Samantha Power were the three principal advocates of war against Libya in 2011, setting the North African nation on a free fall ever since. Demonstrations broke out in some Libyan cities against the government of late Muammar Gaddafi in February 2011, in what became known as the “Arab Spring” that engulfed the region. However, Libya’s promised spring turned into a destructive autumn during which Gaddafi was murdered on 20 October, 2011, and Libya was left anguishing in lawlessness, courtesy of the three women.

Samatha Power currently runs USAID, nominated for the position by Biden. Until recently Susan Rice ran the Domestic Policy Council, also picked by Biden.

Woozythebear ,

Nato and Ukraine are fascist tho… so is Russia but ignoring the other two just make you a fascist as well.

davel ,
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There are Russian fascists. Take Navalny, for example, who the US tried to use in its regime change efforts so that it could resume its neoliberal .

Confidant6198 OP ,

Russia is fighting Nazis to liberate Donbas. They are not doing imperialism. They are only killing Nazis.

davel , (edited )
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Reporter: REDACTED
Reason: russian troll

To say they’re only killing Nazis is a bit of a trolling oversimplification, and I wouldn’t essentialize Russia’s motives down to only liberating the people of the Donbas, but “russian troll” is RussiaGate BlueAnonsense.

As to whether Russia is doing imperialism, I’ll copypasta myself:

Honest question from a non-communist, based on your reply here. Does one need to support Putin to be a Marxist?

In a word, no. In a few more words, support for Russia (not Putin, as historical materialists don’t subscribe to great man theory) is only a partial, temporary, tactical one, in the context of imperialist liberation. Russia is still a capitalist state, though, so it’s a two stage strategy: first liberate colonized bourgeois states from colonizer states, and second revolution within those liberated bourgeois states.

Russia is an interesting case: it has already liberated itself from the post-Soviet “shock therapy” neocolonizers. This occurred during Putin’s administration, which is why he is especially hated by the US. So now the support for Russia is in the context of keeping the colonizers from recolonizing it, and supporting Russia to the extent that it helps other states liberate themselves. But Russia isn’t trying to “liberate” Ukraine, at least not all of Ukraine. It’s trying to resolve the genocidal attacks on the people of the Donbas, and it’s trying to resolve the imperialist military expansion at its border.

zbyte64 ,

Liberate is when ecocide?

SnotFlickerman , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.
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If this text doesn’t get replicated on the internet forever, it’s a failure of a meme.

daltotron ,

Do we consider the text to be the words on the screen or the ideas within the text itself? As a kind of reaction to a current state of affairs, I wouldn’t be surprised if the core idea of this text is thought up by someone every couple days at least, if only in passing. As long as the conditions which brought this meme about in the first place are sustained, it basically can’t die. I’d say, in that sense, this meme could only be considered successful if it doesn’t get replicated forever, it could only be successful if it dies.

lvxferre ,
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What a bloody great comment.

And yes, what matters is the discourse (the ideas within the text), not the utterance used to convey said discourse (the words on the screen).

agamemnonymous ,
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Classically, the meme would be the semantic content in this context or a derivative one (unless we consider this text itself to be derivative). It might re-emerge periodically, but some degree of contextual integrity would be necessary for it to be considered the same meme.

milicent_bystandr ,

Don’t worry, we’re never gonna give it up.

AlolanYoda ,

Trust me. We’re never gonna let you down.

EatATaco , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

I think this is looking at it backwards. I think we shouldn’t view failure as a bad thing. Failure is learning. It’s part of growing. You fail at something, you’ve learned something (well, hopefully). Often you learn more by failing than by succeeding.

Like coaching my kid’s soccer team today: I want them to fail sometimes. I have a player doing well with his right foot and scores a couple of goals, I switch him to the other side and tell him to use his left foot “But I’m not good at it!” good. “I’m not good at goalie.” Excellent, here’s the goalie jersey and go get in there. That’s the point, I’m trying to make them better soccer players. If we just played into their strengths all the time, it would limit how much of a better player they can become.

At work, as a programmer, I try something out. It doesn’t work out because there was some unforeseen condition that causes my initial pattern to fail? No big deal, just redo the pattern from scratch (if, of course, there is the time for that) or rethink the pattern. And I’ve seen how often that solves some other problem, or makes another thing more efficient, or makes future development more easy.

So who cares if your coffee shop failed, or you’re a “failed writer” (I’ve never heard that before), if we don’t treat failure as a bad thing, then people will be more likely to accept that and learn from it.

milicent_bystandr ,

I think you’re right about embracing failure, but I think this is different: is your kid’s soccer team a failure if they don’t play forever? Or is it a success that they play some games, maybe win once or twice, even just learn and have fun?

Some things in life we seem to label failures if they stop after a season, as if long-term stability were the only true goal.

xenoclast ,

Not the same philosophy, but also a very useful one. Would go hand in hand with OP

dave ,
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The thing with football is that there is a specific goal (pun very much intended). It’s ok to have a mindset that you’re going to play in a way that makes it unlikely (in the beginning) you’ll achieve that goal (eg play left footed), but if that player never improved, would you still think it’s ‘working’)?

I worked in an industry for many years that was obsessed with goal-setting, and that mindset never appealed to me. I eventually found a book called Goal Free Living by Stephen M. Shapiro. It was a bit of an eye-opener for me, and the phrase “Carry a compass not a map” stayed with me until today. I’ve done several different things since then but I’ll never be famous for any of them as I still keep changing direction.

sp3tr4l ,

This is a very important point to make.

I made my own post about problems I have with what was posted, but an angle that I would love if more people adopted would be to stop viewing failure as inherently negative and useless in nearly all cases.

Failure can teach you a lot if you are capable of reflection and analysis, and failure happens to everyone, all the time, and is totally normal.

GluWu , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

Curated tumblr, microblog memes, Lemmy being wholesome, 196, lots of places it could fit and be appreciated.

Nimrod ,

Literally until the moment I read your comment, I thought that community was “microbiology memes”

Not on topic, but wow.

threelonmusketeers ,

And if all else fails: !nowhereelsetoshare

Rustmilian , (edited ) to linux in HDR and Color Management Wayland coming to Linux before the end of this year - Zamundaaa (Xaver Hugl)
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Imgonnatrythis , to memes in yeah why

OP doesn’t know shit about arictechture OR history.

Early on in Italy they did finish buildings but due to the gravity situation and the soil there they would tilt over. Using the protractor (invented by da Vinci, an ITALIAN) they started calculating which part of the buildings to leave off so they would stay level.

Sorry you missed that day in middle school chump.

orangeNgreen ,
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Thank you for taking the time to explain what should have been quite obvious to OP.

Viking_Hippie ,

This is one of the best wrong but plausible sounding explanations I’ve ever seen! Well done to you, Sir/Ma’am/other! 👏👏👏

4am ,

It’s not wrong, you just missed that day in middle school, chump

Viking_Hippie ,

We don’t have middle school here in Denmark. That’s probably why I was never taught about this.

nilloc ,

we need a /shittyaskanatchitect.

LemmyKnowsBest ,

and it could’ve been another work of art from u/shittymorph if In nineteen ninety eight the undertaker had thrown mankind off hеll in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer’s table and…

pigup ,

facts

twei ,

Could you please add this link to the words “Da Vinci”: youtu.be/CMnLDhph5Cc?t=1m12s

TimewornTraveler , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

Very interesting sentiments, very agreeable, but if this were one of my patients I would be quick to redirect the conversation away from “society is wrong” into “You’re realizing that you believe this is your path”. Generalizations like that do us no good. If it’s about YOU, then make it about YOU. If someone is dismissing YOU based on this stuff, talk about how that person’s words affect YOU.

I bet $100 that this person recently had a conversation with someone where this kind of language was used. Or, maybe more likely, they saw some random irrelevant bullshit on the internet from a stranger and extrapolated messages about an entire culture from it. The culture is YOU TOO, buddy!

Mr_Dr_Oink ,

A fair point. However, reading the OP back, it seems to me that they aren’t dismissing “forever” as success. They are only stating that its not the only acceptable definition of it.

The way i see it, some things that require never-ending commitment to be deemed a success and others don’t, but that’s not how society sees it in general.

I think messages like the one in the post are a good thing to read and think about how they apply to your own life.

db0 , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.
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It fits very well for !eudaimonia so I cross posted it there

Blaze ,

Nice community

uninvitedguest ,
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I only see 3 posts in that community. Is it just me?

ThePowerOfGeek ,
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No, you are correct about the number of posts. But it looks like the community is only about 2 weeks old. And if they focus on quality over quantity that post count isn’t a bad thing.

FiskFisk33 , to memes in The Adversary

to be fair, while the microwave might be collecting your info, it isn’t shaping your children.

TC_209 ,

The current US President is committing genocide and he grew up watching Howdy Doody.

Rocketpoweredgorilla ,
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I dunno, one kid from down the street near me looks pretty rectangular.

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

the capitalist hellscape your children are living in is what’s actually shaping them

Reawake9179 ,

As if the data just lays somewhere and just get collected, obviously it is sold to the highest bidder which knows what to do with it

FiskFisk33 ,

don’t get me wrong, I don’t mean to minimize that side, I just think there’s a fair argument to be made that direct control of peoples eyeballs are potentially, comparatively, much more powerful.

linkhidalgogato ,

i assume u are down for banning all other capitalist controlled social media platforms too then?

SaltyIceteaMaker ,

Well if you put it like that… Yes

oo1 , (edited ) to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

edit - deleting my comment
, i didnt notice which forum.
actual answer is: showerthoughts or something?

TimewornTraveler ,

why not just respond to what you wanted to? everyone else found it an appropriate setting to discuss the content. OP clearly liked it and walked to talk about it anywhere it fits!

NigelFrobisher , to memes in yeah why

Real reason is you get a tax break on expenses on construction projects, so if you never finish your house your can claim back sales tax on groceries and utilities.

LemmyKnowsBest ,

I’m trying hard to understand this and/or determine if you are being serious or silly.

xantoxis , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.

The main thesis here is good, but that’s a mischaracterization of what people consider “failed” writers.

Someone who wrote one novel and had it published is not considered a failed writer, no matter if they then stop writing immediately. “Failed writer” is pretty much reserved for people who tried writing and couldn’t get anyone interested enough in it to publish it.

I’m not sure what labels would be applied to someone who exclusively pursued self-publishing, but that’s not really the common way.

metallic_substance ,

Salinger is a classic example of this. One of the most celebrated authors of all time. He really only wrote one full novel and then essentially disappeared from public view. Despite this I don’t think anyone would consider him a failed writer by any definition

xantoxis ,

That’s who I was thinking of when I wrote this!

SchmidtGenetics , (edited )

It’s pretty cheap to “self publish” your own book. You basically pay printing fees instead of it being covered by the publisher.

Tanoh ,

I think a better, but still not perfect, way to define it would be “This person wants to do X, but can’t support him/her/itself doing it.”

Of course, if you are already rich it doesn’t matter and then it is a bad metric (one of the reasons it isn’t perfect.) However, I think it is a better way to define it. Someone writing a few books as a hobby and then stops are not a failed writer, but someone that wants to be a writer but just can’t support it is.

Basically I think the intent matters, but that is impossible to measure (and people lie about it). So being able to do it as a profession is an ok metric.

gedaliyah , to memes in yeah why
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"Architects hate this one weird trick”

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