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TheGrandNagus , to linux_gaming in Latest Verge article about their review of Asus ROG Ally X (and this is why gamers are preferring Steam Deck)

I was in a computer shop a couple of weeks ago and it seems the windows handheld makers are doing the same shit they have on their laptops - it was filled with pre-installed bloat, including some shit Norton antivirus 1 year subscription.

Something you never see reviews mention, which is crazy.

henfredemars , (edited )

Antivirus doubly doesn’t make much sense on handheld. Today’s malware is more stealthy and focused on stealing your data, but what sensitive data are you storing on a gaming-specific handheld?

I guess there’s your Steam account, but the risk profile just isn’t the same, and it comes at the cost of performance which is already much more limited in this form factor.

zurohki ,

I’d argue that power is more the issue. All that processor time the antivirus spends scanning and rescanning is a chunk of battery gone.

ricecake ,

From a theft perspective, being able to hijack someones steam account is likely to be more lucrative than most. There’s a window where they might be able to resell the account to someone who doesn’t know how easily valve can verify true ownership and fix it.

You’ve still got a lot of botnets and cryptocurrency miners flying around. Ransomware is the big one that targets people with important data that a gaming device is immune to.

MonkderVierte ,

There’s still ransomware. Pay X bitcoin or say adyeu to your encrypted savegames.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Wipe and my cloud saves got me. We good. Its a handheld, not my desktop.

wizardbeard ,

That’s not how most malware works though. It’s pretty rare that it’s targeted rather than something just looking to take advantage of whatever security hole is present.

Like, I highly doubt anyone is making Steam OS specific malware, but if there’s some security hole in the kernel, a piece of malware targeting that isn’t going to check if it’s a handheld gaming device and stop.

rob_t_firefly ,
@rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

Anything with an IP address can be vulnerable to malware running miners, botnets, and all that good stuff for bad people to continually use your toys to do in the background. The convenient jumping off point into your home network and other inward-facing stuff there you might not want accessible from outside is also worth considering.

TrickDacy ,

Isn’t it interesting how operating systems have a culture? From my early days of working with windows, it was completely normal for every other program to want to run itself at startup, no matter how useless it was to do so. And people just accepted it. They thought that computers literally get slower over time or something. Oftentimes I’d glance at someone’s system tray and see 15 icons or so.

On Mac and Linux though, this behavior is far less acceptable. Today on Mac it is by far worse than ever but still probably better than it was, say, on windows 98. On Linux I could literally install 50 apps in a row without any asking me (or doing it without asking) to run on startup.

It’s just up to what users will put up with. So windows consistently getting shittier shouldn’t really surprise us. People have put up with that from the beginning. Both in terms of the app ecosystem and the os itself.

Like we went through at least a decade on windows where most free apps people used would literally attempt to, or force malware on your machine, in the form of toolbars or other useless shit running in the background. People were so complacent they wouldn’t even uncheck those boxes when offered a choice in the installer. We really need better education in this world.

lengau ,

Yeah on my Linux machine I’ve had like 2 apps want to run on startup, and both of them had little checkboxes in their tray menus to disable that behaviour. If anything the bigger struggle has been that every time I change machines or distros I have to manually get yakuake to start on login again.

TrickDacy ,

I have had the same issue a couple of times actually. Had to learn how to setup systemd services for one of them!

octopus_ink ,

If anything the bigger struggle has been that every time I change machines or distros I have to manually get yakuake to start on login again.

On the off chance that you use KDE Plasma, it’s just here FYI:

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/70f9fb9c-f893-4658-a3e4-611d3f64ba87.png

lengau ,

Yeah, it’s easy to do. I just wish for once that this particular app would do it for me automatically

octopus_ink ,

Totally fair!

Gerudo ,

My Ally didn’t have any bloat. Curious which ones do.

Treczoks , to linuxmemes in Linux "Anti"-Piracy Screen

Which system/distribution/device does show this message?

shoki ,

I think this is fabricated but still very true

ipacialsection OP ,
@ipacialsection@startrek.website avatar

Yeah, it’s fake, and as other commenters have pointed out, it’s also inaccurate to how the GPLv2 works. It was not meant to convince anyone.

Nemo , to asklemmy in What to do with an Android spare smartphone (no sim card)?

Donate it. I’m sure there’s someplace that will want it as a wifi-cabable minitablet for kids to access the Internet on.

brucethemoose , to linux_gaming in Latest Verge article about their review of Asus ROG Ally X (and this is why gamers are preferring Steam Deck)

They just can’t help themselves, lol.

All that bloat is bad enough on a laptop, but its the absolute last thing a handheld needs, both for performance/battery and ergonomics.

hushable ,

and to think there was plenty of no windows, no buy mentally when the Deck got announced. I cannot understand why would anyone go down the Windows route on a handheld, specially now that Linux has been so tried and tested

brucethemoose ,

I mean, Windows would be fine if the OEM stripped it down instead of bloating it even more. They can totally do with with group policies.

I honestly don’t know what they were thinking here.

Avatar_of_Self ,

They were probably thinking that they’d use the cheapest Windows license (no gp manager) and make more money by putting bloatware on there via deals with other companies.

I know you know but why are they so short sighted? I just don’t think actual consumer experience is at the forefront of priorities. Deadlines and budgets are.

brucethemoose ,

It totally kills interest in the device though. Its like they think every single buyer is an impulse buyer who just looks at the demo in Best Buy without even looking it up or trying it.

bassomitron ,

I own an OLED Deck, and while I absolutely love it, it isn’t perfect from a compatibility standpoint. Getting other launchers to work can be a pain, and certain games that the hardware can easily handle have issues due to obnoxious shit like EA’s launcher, e.g. the Dragon Age games. Additionally, mods can be fickle to get working on certain games. The majority of these problems can thankfully be overcome, but implementing the fixes can be tedious/annoying on a handheld.

That all being said, I’m amazed how far gaming on Linux has come. Valve and people like Glorious Eggroll have done excellent work in making Linux gaming possible. I hope as more and more Deck users get accustomed to Linux and make the transition on desktop, that developers start making native Linux clients so all these wrappers aren’t even needed in the first place.

Gerudo ,

I specifically did so I can use any game service beyond Steam without hacking stuff. I know I can turn on my Ally and use Steam, Gamepass, roms, sail the high seas, virtually anything, out of the box.

bdonvr ,

There’s no “hacking” involved to use non-steam services on the Deck. Except maybe gamepass but since Microsoft is making that shitty now is it really that important lol?

Gerudo ,

If you want to play anything with anticheat, you can’t on a steamdeck. And gamepass was my number one reason to not get a steamdeck. I play Xbox too, I might as well get the most bang for my buck if I already subscribe.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Sea of Thieves has a shit ton of Tumbleweed reviews on protondb. You should read them. There’s also a fair amount of other distros that say they work fine. Now my own anecdotal experience, I couldn’t get anything to work on my arch install. But I was dumb as hell and didn’t want to use a desktop environment on a desktop.

EveningNewbs ,

About half of games with anticheat work on Linux: areweanticheatyet.com

Gerudo ,

I know there are working ones, unfortunately all but overwatch don’t work from current games I play.

This was all in response to why anyone would choose a windows machine. I’m a use case that needs windows. I don’t love that I do, but it is what it is.

GreatAlbatross ,
@GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk avatar

I think this is it. Extra margin they can slap on at the last second.
Prosumers aren’t going to care, because if the hardware is still OK, they can just re-install.
But consumers end up buying gear that is hobbled with shiteware.

brucethemoose ,

It’s really sad, as it kills the end product for no good reason. Just theoretical pennies.

tamiya_tt02 , to linux_gaming in Latest Verge article about their review of Asus ROG Ally X (and this is why gamers are preferring Steam Deck)

I have the original Ally and a Windows laptop for one reason: I can’t play Destiny on Linux. That’s my main game. I don’t want to get my account suspended for playing on Linux. So, I deal with Windows, even though it sucks.

Churbleyimyam , to selfhosted in Trying to figure out the best way to set up a self hosted matrix server.

I would try YUNOhost

FATHI , to aww in Rule
@FATHI@mstdn.social avatar
Maven OP ,

That’s me

theacharnian , to memes in Jeff's magic money machine
@theacharnian@lemmy.ca avatar

Warhammer!!

nickwitha_k ,

Genie: There are 5 rules…

theacharnian ,
@theacharnian@lemmy.ca avatar

I mean c’mon genie, that barely covers my Kharadron, Drukhari, and Votan dream collections.

triplenadir ,
@triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml avatar

also already covered by rule #3

OpenStars , to piracy in I used to love Android but I want to move, and I don't know if it's the right thing.
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

Why not Nothing, if you don’t mind my asking?

I’ve also thought about Fairphone as my next one.

And I’ve thought about an iPhone like this too - if you have adblocking via a home router or pihole or some such then why not? Piracy could be done indirectly and just play/stream from Jellyfin or some such. But my thoughts are not well enough along to be of any use to you there, just to say that your ideas don’t seem crazy to me. Buttery smooth operation, actually pleasant to hold and use (not burning a hole in my hand after not even a minute of standard web browser usage as my own S22 does, probably bc of my Blokada VPN adblocker?), so long as the downsides can be mitigated.

Pixels seem to be to be entirely too imbalanced to me to include a super expensive camera that I barely use and barely any stats that I actually do (game emulators or whatever) - I really want a Nexus except they don’t make those. Even OnePlus doesn’t make those flagship killers anymore. I doubt they exist at all tbh.

Another idea is to get like an old OnePlus 7-ish device and just immediately replace the OS with a custom ROM. Fast charging is both good and bad - great utility but leads to heat issues later in the battery’s life.

I almost just want a cheap piece of crap dumb phone at this point, so that I don’t have to spend hundreds of hours researching every damn thing that the manufacturers are trying to do to me and ways to get around them without leaving (literal!) scorch marks on my hands.:-( But I also want Google Maps and maybe an Uber app in an emergency so that’s what holds me back.

So with that I think I’ve recommended just about literally everything now in this comment… :-P

ladfrombrad ,
@ladfrombrad@lemdro.id avatar

I almost just want a cheap piece of crap dumb phone

Looked into a KaiOS device? Not entirely dumb, GMaps is only the web version so no voice navigation etc.

But might be something of interest to ya?

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

KaiOS

It looks interesting - thanks for the tip!:-)

jeffreyosborne ,

This does sound quite cool!

Teknikal ,
@Teknikal@eviltoast.org avatar

My Nothing is the most unstable Android device I’ve ever owned and they don’t ever actually fix anything just come out with childish gimmicks.

I think the last one was Chat Gpt integration which turned out to just be a widget that launches chatgpt if you manually install it and even that only worked for a couple of weeks and chatgpts own widget is better so what was the point.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

YIKES!? So it’s a marketing gimmick then? Not the ChatGPT, that’s obviously one, but the Nothing phone itself? So sorry to hear that:-(, but at least you are spreading the word so as to help others avoid that for themselves.:-)

I do have higher hopes for the Fairphone though.

Teknikal ,
@Teknikal@eviltoast.org avatar

Yep every article you ever see about them is some type of gimmick or another and most of them last about as long as Nothing Messages did.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

Well OnePlus definitely jumped the shark, and it sounds like its spinoff Nothing did as well:-(.

Teknikal ,
@Teknikal@eviltoast.org avatar

I really suspect in future years it’ll be revealed Nothing is a oneplus brand, I mean I know a lot of people already suspect it but yeah I d say Nothing is to One plus what Honor is to Huawei.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

Oh the “connection” is well-known I thought: the cofounder of OnePlus Carl Pei left the latter company in a huff, when it decided to switch from the gorgeous buttery smooth OxygenOS to the cheap piece of crap ColorOS (not just similar to but the identical one used in the Chinese Huawei phones) and in the process started the Nothing phone company. And because OnePlus phones used to be amazing but right around the time he left they became crappy, people had high hopes for the Nothing phone company that he would bring some of the old goodness - for the tech “enthusiast” market - with him.

However, it sounds like both companies make crap phones nowadays, just like every other major phone company (except Apple phones are gorgeous and amazing, it’s just that iOS makes you want to drive a nail into your brain). We are no longer capable of purchasing what we want (cheap to moderate price with a balance towards higher specs and far far lesser camera, and without bells and whistles like wireless charging, but has some like fast charging - what the “flagship killer” market used to offer!), there is only what they wish to sell us.:-(

chobeat , to asklemmy in What would you like to change about Lemmy culture?

I feel like the last remnants of the New Atheists have retreated onto lemmy. Often when you reference spirituality, religion, or even reflections on group dynamics and psychology that doesn’t portray humans as perfectly rational self-interest decision-making machines, you get raided by these edgy “facts and logic” kids that are extremely annoying.

On reddit, they are contained in their own zoos, while here they seem to pile up even in generalist communities. It feels like 2012 all over again.

karashta ,

I always find it interesting how they largely just seem to have switched dogmatic stances from some religion to atheism.

The real logical stance is “I do not know if this is true or not because it is unprovable”.

They look down on true believers while being true believers in atheism themselves.

JackGreenEarth ,

Atheism is just rejecting the claim that Hod or a specific God claim exists, it isn’t claiming that you believe with certainty he does not. I am an agnostic atheist, I reject the claim that the Jewish, Christian, whatever God exists and in fact positively believe they do not exist because of its self-contradictory nature. I admit that there might be a higher power that created our universe and is outside of time, etc, but it’s unknown/unknowable.

Feathercrown ,
Cryophilia ,

My absolute 100% main response to this topic is, by far and away, “TOO MUCH FUCKING EDGINESS”. In all its forms. I say this as a staunch atheist. Get the fuck over yourself, lemmy.

wuphysics87 ,

Perhaps a bot to auto ban quotes from ben shapiro or jordan peterson?

Zahille7 ,

I want the bot that replies with horrendous shit they did or said whenever they’re mentioned.

wuphysics87 ,

You mean repeating the same post?

3dom , to linux_gaming in Latest Verge article about their review of Asus ROG Ally X (and this is why gamers are preferring Steam Deck)

If you want Steam Deck experience on these handhelds, take a look at Bazzite. It already supports the Ally X. Runs like a dream on my Legion Go.

hornedfiend ,

This is a sensible recommendation. Even though I despise windows and Asus has support issues historically ( very lame ones even), the hardware itself is very good and any Linux distro can be easily flashed.

I wouldn’t dismiss the handheld based on a windows review really ( hint : windows will forever suck).

deranger , to piracy in I used to love Android but I want to move, and I don't know if it's the right thing.

my girlfriend has iOS, and every time I want to forward an nsfw gif she doesn’t see it

Say what? There’s no content censoring that I’m aware of. I’ve had no issues looking at all kinds of NSFW/NSFL content.

Regardless, you’re likely not going to enjoy the lack of modified apps and game piracy; I don’t do either of those. Maybe it’s possible but you’ve gotta jump through so many hoops IMO it wouldn’t be worth it.

Zero issues with NSFW though, that’s bizarre to me. There’s screen time web content filtering but I believe that only affects safari.

GravitySpoiled ,

My partner can’t view webp/webm content on ios either. It’s a real pain once in a while.

Taleya , (edited )

Yeah but there’s a difference between’doesn’t support webp’ and ‘blocks porn’

TheDuckPrince OP ,

I can tell you that there are channel marked as NSFW that share video and gif and if I send it to my gf, on her phone (even with nsfw enabled) she get the message “this channel is used to share pornographic material” while on android I can see everything.

deranger ,

What do you mean by channel, like on Telegram?

This is a region specific Telegram setting if so, it’s not iOS. Tell her to disable the adult content filter.

M500 ,

Apple did something a while back to limit nsfw stuff on iOS. There was a setting in discord that you had to change to see nsfw stuff and some communities you had to join it from the desktop before you could view it on the phone.

arstechnica.com/…/ios-users-and-only-ios-users-fa…

I’m remembering more now, Apple had a policy that was like we might block your app if it’s for nsfw. So some apps got worried and limited nsfw stuff on iOS.

2xsaiko , to piracy in I used to love Android but I want to move, and I don't know if it's the right thing.
@2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de avatar
  • I used to do side loading on iOS for a modded YouTube app (uYou+) but now I just use YouTube in the browser with AdGuard and Vinegar extensions. There’s ways to sideload and auto refresh the certificate that don’t need you to connect the phone to a computer which apparently work pretty well (I used AltStore which was pretty annoying because it doesn’t do that).
  • Usually I think you just have to enable NSFW on a computer/via the browser for it to work in the app. At least that how it is for Telegram iirc. Generally there shouldn’t be a problem accessing anything.
  • No idea, the only thing I play on my phone is Shattered Pixel Dungeon and I bought that
FarmTaco , to memes in Jeff's magic money machine

Ill show up to dealership row and just start buying out car dealerships until I hit 100m and have that done in an afternoon

itslilith ,
@itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Bad investment, you can’t resell them for nearly as much and you’ve contributed to the automobile industry that is lobbying hard against climate change policy

I’d start buying up mid-sized companies and reorganizing them as worker co-ops. Doing some long-term good while not violating the terms of the contract

If you’re just after the money, do as every billionaire looking to launder some money does and buy art.

FarmTaco ,

no way are you finishing a company takeover in a month

anytimesoon , to selfhosted in Trying to figure out the best way to set up a self hosted matrix server.

I use this and it’s been completely flawless from day one. The documentation is up there with the best I’ve seen, and the matrix room always has someone willing to help explain further

github.com/…/matrix-docker-ansible-deploy

tenchiken ,

Holy crap that is comprehensive. Great timing since I’m about to wipe and redo my server from scratch.

Thanks for sharing!

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