Capitalism just takes advantage of human nature. That’s why it has clearly been the most successful system, at least as a starting point, for the overall well being of a nation.
The issue with these channels is that most people just don’t give a fuck about the information. They want to be entertained. Capitalism is just good system that enabled that to be figured out.
Your issue is not with capitalism, but human nature.
So it’s a most or nothing situation? They need to be maximally broadly appealing? That sounds like capitalism to me.
I don’t care if only a certain percentage of people are into these channels. That should be just fine. It is just fine. And I’m not here to guilt anyone because they don’t like watching history shows or whatever else.
The economic model failed the audience of the original versions of these channels. It’s not society as a whole that failed the producers of the channels.
They need to be maximally broadly appealing? That sounds like capitalism to me.
“broadly appealing” means “human nature.” This is my point. Capitalism is just a good system to figure this out. You want stuff that appeals to you, as do I. But that stuff is boring to most other people. Most people like this drivel, unfortunately. You just want a system that caters to you, and your niche interests (ones we likely share, BTW). You just want the stuff you want on what is available to the broad public. . . .But why is that fair to the majority?
And you know what? With things like youtube, podcasts, and streaming (all thanks to capitalism, BTW), all of that is available to you. Just not on inappropriately named cable stations. Why do you care? Do you even get cable? Who does anymore? Even my pre-boomer dad has cut the cord.
Don’t get me wrong. Capitalism certainly has it’s faults. There are certain things, like policing, fire protection, and health care, that simply don’t fit into the mold of capitalism well. Even as a well off American, I’m all for strong socialism for many things, like what we see in Europe.
I just find the concept that “these aren’t the original intent of the channels. . .what a failure of capitalism!” to be kind of funny. Who really cares?
Call up Louis Rossmann and have a talk about how you can help with democracy to stop the present dystopian neo feudal regression in the world. Long term, you could impact the trajectory of the next few centuries in substantial ways and lessen the coming dark age.
Not really. There are very few lobbyists for a non dystopian future. The battle for the right to own your tools is the absolute fulcrum of the future and the next several centuries. The loss of ownership rights is the largest sociopolitical issue and regression of the past millennia. The atrocity of feudalism was already hashed out as a terrible and failed social structure. Allowing it to reemerge will have extreme long term impacts
The way people fail to see and understand this issue speaks to the potential force needed to shift the trend and trajectory. All it takes are a few influential and connected people working to shift the political conversation and momentum in the opposite direction to alter the course of the future. Funding a few individuals to speak up for us could make an enormous impact. Ownership IS citizenship; IS democracy. Trusting others while renting tools and property IS feudalism. It is a path to slavery in all but name. It happened before, and is always the inevitable outcome of this situation. Putting up any fight against the lackadaisical complacency of our present culture absolutely has the potential to impact the future in a substantial way.
You seem very passionate about this issue, which is great, but you also seem very bad at communicating about it, because even after reading two full paragraphs here, I still only have a vague idea of what exactly you’re lobbying for. Can you just link us to something succinct and printed explaining it?
For an ugly fucking lady like Rowling, you’d think she would understand that going down the path of “that woman isn’t feminine looking enough to really be a woman” is anti-feminist at it’s core and could hurt her in the long run when people begin questioning her gender for being an ugly ass.
Or does she really think she’s some hot shit and not some ugly twat?
It’s literally already happened to Kyle Rittenhouse and Andrew Tate. She’s making this worse for herself in the long run.
Perhaps you’ve been projecting the ugliness within you all along and that normal looking non-supermodels can be shitty people for things separate from the way they look.
They both genuinely hate trans people though. Hell, Musk disowned his own trans daughter. Like if he was just in it to divide the population he wouldn’t be treating his trans child so horribly.
Bold of you to assume that people connect daily or pesistently on a platform that was born or enhanced, in great part, to find an escape to corporate addiction platforms!
Like, really, if it was to be binding for decision making on the Fediverse, I’d give it at least 7 full days, to account for people who mostly lurk on weekdays and only truly engage on weekend.
Maybe I’m going to do something, maybe I’m not. Why the demanding tone?
I also think that grassroots economy would work better for many things. But we’re not there, the world doesn’t work like that ATM. Wish for 10% of people to contribute is very optimistic IMO.
You need much wider spread, and for me (for example) your tool is the only thing that gives you any credibility. If there are others like me, you might be missing clout for a call to support like that to simply just work
Yes, I can. But you need much more to accomplish this
You need reach: are there any mods/admins that would feel ok with vouching for your abilities? And preferably have info about your proposal stickied on a bunch of communities where it could reach people open to chip in?
You need to convince those you reach that you’re not a Nigerian Prince. Mod/Admin saying you’re legit could help with it but maybe there’s something more you could do to convince the public?
Maybe I simply don’t know who you are, maybe in reality you are second in command after Dessalines. But either you are a random dev saying “I can do that” - in this case you need to somehow convince others that you really can. Or you are not recognised for your work - in this case you need to point us to what tie you to. I saw the fedi project on your GitHub so you probably can code (I’m not going to be auditing your project in order to asses your skills, sorry). But are you just a dreamer or are you serious? I’m sorry if what I’m saying sounds harsh. I just feel that how you are coming through to the other side gets lost in translation here
GitHub is not the most popular support medium. Why not also have Patreon/Koffi/OpenCollective/etc? Many will chip in easier if they’re already present on the platform
The number of subscribers to this community is already close to half of the total amount of active users on all of Lemmy. Plus, as so many people said before (when complaining about the alien.top bots), the majority of people browse Lemmy by “all”. I really find hard to believe that going to other communities is going to move the needle too much in terms of reach.
If I were a scammer, I’d be a really dumb one. Do you really think that it would be a good idea to go through a platform like Github asking for $4/month? Or go through all the trouble to put together a real website, offering services were you pay through Stripe and can cancel or ask for a refund?
Honestly, because I don’t believe in the donation-based model. I’d rather have people believing in me and supporting my work by being actual customers of my business offer.
(I see my reply yesterday didn’t federate; trying again from an alt instance)
o hai. Curious that you expected a bunch of people to support you within a couple days. I never saw your proposal (buried in a comment thread in one post on lemmy). I’m only first hearing of this 6 hours after you specifically tagged me. I think you could do more to publish & advocate your proposals if you’re serious about them…
Before the incident described in the article you’re referencing, I had never spoken to any instance admins. Since I published it, I have spoken to several instance admins (many reached out to me), and they all expressed similar frustrations with the lemmy devs and fatigue in contributing to this project.
No matter how much people will tell you that something is important to them, the true test is seeing how many are willing to pay the asking price.
I think it’s important to consider that there’s many ways that people contribute to Lemmy. Equally as important as the work that the devs are doing is the work that the instance admins are doing. Collectively the community of instance admins are contributing much more money and time into lemmy than the developers are. That shouldn’t be discounted. Both should be appreciated.
There are other ways that people take time out of their lives to support Lemmy, such as finding and filing bug reports, writing documentation, answering questions about the fediverse to new users, raising awareness about lemmy on other centralized platforms, etc. These are also all contributions that benefits the project. Don’t discount them.
But when our contributions are met with disrespect, it pushes us away. Based on my conversations with countless Lemmy contributors in the past few days, that’s where a lot of people are. They don’t want to invest any more time or money into Lemmy because of their previous interactions with the Lemmy devs.
the core bits of nebula are all open source. With tailscale, there is headscale, but that is made by a tailscale employee and it feels ripe for a rug pull whenever tailscale feels like it. with nebula, the lighthouse and user clients are open, so there is far less chance of that.
I see. That is a valid concern. Though it feels unfair to say that headscale is ‘made by a tailscale employee’. From what I understand, one of the main contributors of headscale was hired by tailscale, though he is not the only maintainer and does not own the repo from what I can tell. Still, Tailscale could decide to cede all support of headscale and that would likely hurt the project a lot. In the same way however nebula could decide to switch to proprietary licenses and discontinue their open source offerings.
In the same way however nebula could decide to switch to proprietary licenses and discontinue their open source offerings.
Sure but you’d still have whatever the last commit was to nebula under the MIT license. It can be forked etc etc.
I am sure headscale is great, but its a side project and if so inclined (not saying they are, tailscale seem quite generous), they could kill it a lot faster than Defined Networking could kill nebula. But its all a gamble.
Biggest thing was actually the sign up options. What if I don’t want my machines calling to Google or Microsoft to get access to Tailscale? I need to look up the other OIDC providers but don’t know much about that yet.
Then the fact of Nebula being fully open source and fully on my machines. (Though that’s a little undercut by the Android problem being solved only by their managed service).
Headscale gave me an impression of being more complicated to set up and maintain. Haven’t tried it yet, that was just my feel when I chose which one to try.
More recently, I saw Nebula’s interesting post on performance benchmarks. At high throughout Tailscale can be better for CPU but heavier on memory. Hopefully at my sort of very low throughout it’s small on memory but if I’m squeezing a client into a cheap vps alongside nextcloud and other things, memory use is more concerning to me than CPU… I wonder how much memory Tailscale uses when not doing much.
I respect your efforts and your willingness to propose a solution to the various problems that Lemmy faces, particularly the moderation and image management aspects. I did not see your proposal until you linked it in this post.
I will say though the Fediverser project is closely aligned with alien.top, which in October 2023 was a one-way Reddit to Lemmy bridge. Many Lemmy users (myself included) were very upset with how that “solution” caused automated post traffic to flood servers all over Lemmy, drowning out swaths of discussion until admins defederated from it.
I am the type who puts money (at least what little I have) where their mouth is. However I can’t support Fediverser or Communick.news because of the above, I’m sorry. As a separate project you may have more success, mention me if you implement or are implementing some sort of extension to allow Lemmy to execute full data extraction and deletions per GDPR, or a proper admin or per user image management tool (offer open until May 31 2024).
It would be separate from Fediverser. I’m just mentioning because by working on it I learned enough about Lemmy’s API and database to know that I can create a management dashboard that can work with the Django admin.
alien.top is not mirroring posts anymore. The reason I am not working on the two-way bridge is (surprise!) because no one who expressed interest in it has shown up to support it as well.
If you are offering donations on the condition that I do something that satisfies your expectations, it’s not a donation. I’m not here to chase people around the internet for $4/month. If you want to hire me to do your bidding, my consulting fee is $1000/day. Pay me that and I can do the monkey dance. Please don’t ever come to me or anyone else with “do this and I will contribute”. It’s downright offensive.
“Skin In The Game” is a powerful filter. No matter how much people will tell you that something is important to them, the true test is seeing how many are willing to pay the asking price. If not people are not willing to pay $2 per hour of work, then I can assume that this is not really important.
I’m telling you what is important to me by your definition, and you write the response you did. Very well then, it appears you don’t need support from people like me if you find it offensive. May you have a pleasant day.
Skin in the Game is about showing that you are willing to accept the risks and costs of standing up to your values. This is a separate thing from “I will only give money to X if they are willing to be subjected to my personal purity test”.
I am not saying that donating to me specifically would be a display of SITG. You (and by you I mean “anyone that wants to keep using Lemmy but is worried about potential GDPR violations”) could, e.g:
get a lawyer to work and make a real assessment of the legal liabilities for admins and users in the EU.
take initiative to pool together resources to find other Rust developers who could work on the Lemmy source code, pay them instead.
contribute to a competing project to signal to the Lemmy devs that this is important.
go ahead and tell the Lemmy devs “I am willing to contribute to your work specifically to reach the GDPR-compliance milestone”
The offensive part of your previous post is not that it makes the donation conditional on a milestone, but just you came as someone who is trying to use money as a way to control my behavior. You basically said “I don’t like what you did before, so I will only support you for something that I do like if you disown your previous actions”. This is completely removed from SITG and reminiscent of a struggle session.
My apologies if you thought my comment was trying to control you with money, I wasn’t trying to hire you. My offer is open to anybody that might just happen to be working on something like that for any reason, they can mention me for my support. The time limit is only so I don’t get 10 requests in 2025 from people when I’ve long forgotten about it.
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