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doubletwist , to science_memes in Or we could do metric time

Can we start the 1st on Sunday though so every month has a Friday the 13th?

Colonel_Panic_ ,

This is the real discussion piece. We either always have Friday the 13th or we never do again.

I’m with you for always Friday the 13th.

Plus, never having one again just feels wrong.

ben_dover , to science_memes in Or we could do metric time

i’m intrigued, but leap days would fuck it up though

Typhoonigator ,

This meme already ignores the fact that it’s only produced a calendar of 364 days.

Most proposed versions I’ve seen of this calendar have New Year’s Day as a standalone holiday, so the leap day presumably tacks on to that every 4 years?

ben_dover ,

true I’ve heard about that, sure why not

Lifter ,

Leap years aren’t every four years though, just FYI.

NeatNit ,

Currently, everyone in the world agrees about the days of the week (correct me if I’m wrong). If it’s Monday in France it’s Monday in Finland, besides a few hours due to timezones. But if a particular society adopts this system you describe, or any system under which every year starts on a particular day of the week and is solar aligned, that necessitates having an incomplete week and losing that sync with the entire rest of the world.

A possible solution is to only use leap weeks. So every year has 364 days, but every 6 years or so (spare me the exact calculation) you track on a leap week to realign with the solar cycle. This is similar to the leap month in the Hebrew calendar - months follow the moon so a leap month is the smallest unit possible to tweak the length of a year.

Tnaeriv ,

You’re wrong. For example: some of the country of Kiribati (UTC +14) will never be in the same day of the week as Hawaii (UTC -10).

NeatNit ,

Right, I forgot about that edge case… But at least they agree about a particular date’s day of the week, don’t they? And they’re consistently one day off. This proposed system would be inconsistently off, sometimes in sync and sometimes 3 days off.

dingus ,

Also imagine your birthday always being on a Monday…

HubertManne , to funny in *flips setting from Busy back to Online on Teams*

I always get so upset when I realize im caring about work or thinking about it off the clock.

minibyte ,

At my work we lost a few good souls to COVID. Weeks later it was like these people that were with the company for many years, never existed. Most couldn’t remember their names, and I’m starting for forget their faces.

Work doesn’t care about you or your livelihood.

realitista , to science_memes in Or we could do metric time

28*13=364

cori ,

New years day is always a holiday that doesn’t fall on any other day of the calendar. It’s just kind of its own thing. No idea how that would actually work irl but that is usually how this proposal is explained.

watersnipje ,

As a software engineer, I beg of you

maynarkh ,

We just shut down the servers for one day a year and reboot all of them. How hard can it be?

watersnipje ,

Ok, and we just don’t process any of the data from that day, ever?

Swedneck ,
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what happens on new years stays in new years

golli ,

So we basically make the Purge a reality?

arken ,

I like this idea more and more. All computers off, noone is allowed to work, just a big new years party for everyone.

GBU_28 ,

EVER

maynarkh ,

Let’s be honest, we all could do with a bit less data processing.

KamikazeRusher ,

Network switches with over 10 years of uptime chuckle nervously

Denalduh ,

You’ll also need plan for timezones as well.

mexicancartel ,

Just invent 0. Array starts from 0 so can new year

watersnipje ,

Zero Nonuary.

GBU_28 ,

You’ve been given the zeroth place

Kage520 ,

And leap year?

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

New year’s 2: Electric Boogaloo

BlackRoseAmongThorns ,

Kinda sounds easier to implement tbh, like, right now leap days are in a specific month, but wouldn’t it (in addition to a hypothetical new years day) be easier to handle and remember if they are a very explicit part of the calendar system?

watersnipje ,

On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, now there is a day that is not part of a week, or a month. And we have a month and a week that don’t immediately follow after the previous one.

BlackRoseAmongThorns ,

Very reasonable

Gullible , to funny in *flips setting from Busy back to Online on Teams*

Blocking out the names but not the @s was certainly a choice. Or was the inanity part of a stealth advertising campaign where people point out the inanity and thus call attention to the @. The internet’s friggin weird.

Klear ,

Before I left Reddit it felt like almost every post that reached the front page had a typo or some dumb mistake or worst a title like “Which PC game is your favourite?!?”.

It’s not too bad here yet, but I have a feeling it’s only a matter of time.

chicken ,

Given how bad most name censoring is, I think most people doing it don’t actually want to but also don’t want to be accused of blatantly violating rules requiring it.

Kolanaki ,
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It’s a pretty stupid rule to extend protections against doxxing to publicly visible usernames. They’re already posting publicly with that name. Even with them blotted out, you can search for the text or reverse image search and find it in 2 seconds.

chicken ,

Yeah but 95% of people will be too lazy to do that and this will be enough to avert most brigading that might happen. I think this is about ad-hoc harassment campaigns more than doxxing which evokes more organized and focused harassment campaigns.

brbposting ,

Typical default skin behavior

Retrograde ,
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I’ve honestly never seen the point in blotting out people’s handles unless they’re saying some seriously incindiary stuff

boogetyboo ,
@boogetyboo@aussie.zone avatar

I just do it as a courtesy to the people as I’m usually making fun of them in forums they didn’t originally post in. It’s not like I’m thinking about it as being doxxing, more just that I’m poking fun at someone behind their back - if they’re a public figure that’s one thing - but the average Joe? Just feels impolite. That’s why I do it anyway.

AnarchistArtificer , to science_memes in Blanket physics is harder to understand than Calabi-Yau Manifolds

My brother once got so tangled in a duvet cover, we had to cut him free.

TronnaRaps ,

Does your brother usually wear a helmet, by any chance?

jaybone ,

Maybe they put him in the dryer with the sheets. My duvet cover is like some kind of Bag of Holding that swallows pillow cases and never wants to return them.

WarmSoda ,

I had a friend whose younger brother used to get trapped in the dryer.

jaybone ,

I think I saw her video about that.

mnemonicmonkeys , to science_memes in Or we could do metric time

This reminds me of a fantasy series I like, where the world still has 365 day, but every month is 30 days long, and the remaining 5 days are separate holidays for the solstices, equinoxes, and new years.

Also, when are we going to do 10hrs/day, 100 min/hr and 100s/min?

Sconrad122 ,

Oh god, converting imperial kHz to metric kHz sounds awful

mnemonicmonkeys ,

Mwahahaha!

ChairmanMeow ,
@ChairmanMeow@programming.dev avatar

The 24h cycle with subdivisions in 60 is easy for dividing them up though. 60 divides by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20 and 30.

zalgotext ,

Also, when are we going to do 10hrs/day, 100 min/hr and 100s/min?

This is how you collectively give the entire scientific community a simultaneous aneurysm. The amount of work needed to convert measurements based on our current seconds/minutes/hours to your “metric” seconds/minutes/hours would be astronomical.

Also, pretty much everyone already agrees on the current system of time, so why change it? It would just create another metric/imperial or F/C divide and cause conversion mistakes.

SapphironZA ,

I think we are due another Y2K legacy system replacement global project.

davitz ,
Gondolaaaa ,

It would add another level to time conversion between timezones

HubertManne ,

I like this better because if you have to do one holiday outside of the calendar then why not 5 and the equinoxes and solsctices divide it up perfectly. Then everything else is nice and even. I assume weeks were six days long as that is how I always thought of it. 5 six day weeks.

mnemonicmonkeys ,

Apparently in the series it’s 6 5-day weeks. They also didn’t have names for the days

BakerBagel ,

Don’t decimalize time, instead dozenalize our numbers! Twelve is such a better building block than ten. Pretty much all math becomes way easier using dozenal numbers instead of decimal ones.

OozingPositron ,
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With base 12 you can actually get a result for 1/3

mnemonicmonkeys ,

But not for 1/5

Moobythegoldensock ,

Yes, but having 2, 3, 4, 6 as factors is way better than having only 2 and 5. We’d be giving up one factor to add three.

kaityy ,
@kaityy@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Big Decimal has brainwashed the population into thinking that 5 is a good number instead of the terrible prime number that it is. It should be clumped in with 7 and 11 as Bad Numbers when you’re dealing with anything except for 10s.

1984 , to lemmyshitpost in Only in Settings can you find Life's true meaning
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One of these doesn’t sell your private, personal data, which one?

L0wded_ ,
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Settings?

L0wded_ , to lemmyshitpost in R.I.P. in peace 🪨 + 📜 = ☠️
@L0wded_@sh.itjust.works avatar

Lmao

01011 , to science_memes in Or we could do metric time

Can we do something about October being the 10th month of the year. It’s stupid and annoying.

meliaesc ,

Blame the Caesars, Julius for July and Augustus for August.

VindictiveJudge ,
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I suppose we could fix it by moving the start of the year to March 1st. Start of spring makes more sense for the new year anyway.

mnemonicmonkeys ,

Tbf, the calendar before them was even worse

roscoe , (edited )

That’s a common misconception. For the Romans, the year used to start with March and only have ten months. January and February weren’t even named, it was just the time between harvest and the new year. Several calendar changes followed over the centuries. Adding two months (January and February). Moving the new year to January, which made September-December no longer 7-10. Adding random one-off months to realign with the seasons. And a couple different tries at leap days, among other things.

This gives a quick overview.

Edit 2: To clarify, the above changes were all made by the Romans, they only started with a ten month calendar.

Edit: The fifth and sixth months were originally named Quintilis and Sextilis before they were changed to July and August.

zaphod ,

The Romans had twelve months and they even named January and February, it’s usually attributed to Numa Pompilius, second king of Rome sometime during his reign (715–672 BC) of the Roman Kingdom.

roscoe ,

All covered in the link. The addition of January and February and later moving the new year from March to January is the reason Sept-Dec are no longer the seventh-tenth months. Not July and August, which were renamings, not additions.

Edit: I suppose my first comment should have specified early Romans. The way I wrote it could be read as all those changes happening after the Romans.

blindsight ,

You can thank Julius Augustus for that. He wanted the best months named after himself. Egomaniac.

meliante ,

And September (sept=seven), November (nov=nine) and December (dec=ten)…

s_s ,

Start the year on March 1st like it used to be?

Mubelotix , to science_memes in Or we could do metric time
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France tried such calendar in 1789 and 1871. We lost it when Jules Ferry executed all the communalists in Paris. Some people in France still use those calendars to show their support to revolutionary ideas

AnUnusualRelic ,
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There are a few websites and twitter accounts that remind you that today is Nonidi, 29 Germinal of the year CCXXXII.

brbposting ,

Picking up a newspaper in Thailand reminds you it’s year 2567

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/38a82c76-4f1c-4458-b189-02f3eff520c0.jpeg

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/69383a63-717b-4bd0-8f9a-b279f083ac66.jpeg

The reckoning of the Buddhist Era in Thailand is 543 years ahead of Anno Domini, so the year 2024 AD corresponds to B.E. 2567.

Mubelotix ,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

I own such a website and I can confirm that this date is right. French wikipedia though is wrong as it uses a bad simplication reform that was never voted

LockheedTheDragon , (edited ) to science_memes in Or we could do metric time

I do not want my birthday to fall on the same day of the week each year!

NewAgeOldPerson ,

Seems like a high price to pay just to test who cares enough.

Etterra , to science_memes in Or we could do metric time

I’ve actual been saying this for years for this exact reason. God forbid we not be able to divide a year into clean quarters.

BigBenis ,

Three months and one week still seems like a clean quarter to me.

Alternatively, if we really want to stick to the three-month quarter then we could call the extra week of each quarter an off-week or save it all for the 13th month of the year since nothing really gets done during that time anyway.

Hupf , to science_memes in Or we could do metric time

We should make the days 28 hours long as well while we’re at it.

Adalast ,

I actually had this happen once. My mental health actually improved, but it was untenable for my job and social life unfortunately. It was kinda nice for a couple months though.

sukhmel ,

Afaik, the effect depends on if you have unusual circadian rhythm or not

Adalast ,

Yeah, I noticed my rythem in absence of anything teathering it to the socially acceptable world is about 28 hours. Weird that I am not alone in this apparently.

Dicska ,

There’s dozens of us. Dozens!

Hupf ,

Slightly more than two dozen, actually.

Swedneck ,
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i’m pretty confident it’s an evolutionary adaption to ensure there are people in the tribe that are wide awake when others are sleeping, to keep an eye on things.

same thing with neurodivergence, sexualities, and left-handedness; it’s all stuff that’s been boosting our survival as a species when a portion of the population has those differences.

yuri ,

The next phase of human evolution is here, and it’s gay, autistic, left handed, and sleeping at odd hours. The rest of humanity has yet to realize the end of their epoch is nigh.

IMongoose ,

People used to wake up in the middle of the night for a couple of hours then go back to sleep:

bbc.com/…/20220107-the-lost-medieval-habit-of-bip…

MotoAsh ,

Mine settled on 36 hour days and it was fantastic. Plenty of time to work, plenty of time to play, and plenty to sleep, every day. … then I got a 9-5 job and my life became hell again.

Adalast ,

Sometimes I really hate the modern world. Especially working remotely doing what could be asynchronous work with colleagues, why the hell can’t we just sleep whenever we want, as long as the work gets done.

blindsight ,

What the flying fuck. I literally did that exact thing in university to manage my at-the-time undiagnosed sleep disorder.

I slept through like 30% of my classes, but it was the most rested I’d ever been in my life.

bobbytables , to science_memes in Or we could do metric time

I hate the idea of metric time (for a lot of use cases metric is still awesome).

12 and 60 can be easily divided by 2, 3, 4, 6. 60 also by 5 and 10. Even for 8 it’s still kind of easy.

For 10 or 100 division is easy for 2, 5 and 10 and okay-ish for 4.

The 12/60 (and 360 degrees of a circle) are such an elegant system!

SanndyTheManndy ,

makes sense in a world without much fractions or the decimal system. You want to get the most divisors for your buck.

bobbytables ,

IMHO especially in a setting like time where fractions are very common (like “half an hour”), being able to represent fractions with whole numbers is very convenient.

MBM ,

We should “just” switch to base-6 (or maybe 12) first

bobbytables ,

AFAIK the system goes back to the old Babylonians who had a base-60 system subdivided into 5 times 12. 5 times 12 could easily be counted using your thumb to count the 12 knuckles on the other fingers and the 5 fingers of the other hand.

I mean, how amazing is counting like that! I only learned to count to 10 with my fingers. I love the base-10 for its simplicity but base-60, subbase-12 is the shit :D

Emma_Gold_Man ,

Even easier and more comfortable - count the pads instead of the knuckles. You can count to 12 with one hand, or 144 with two

bobbytables ,

You are right! English is not my first language and I thought I was talking about the pads. My bad! Yours is the best way!

HonoraryMancunian ,

If only we had 6 digits per hand as standard, basic maths would be so much easier for everyone

MalReynolds ,
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We do, base 12 comes from 5 fingers and a fist. It was used by traders for the longest time.

xkforce ,

Get better at math and theres no problem.

pseudo ,
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Thank you ! Last time I tried to explain this on Lemmy, I wrote my longest comment ever. I’m gonna use you much better explanation next time.

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