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SapphironZA ,

Did not notice it today, but I am running ublock origin and they got my back.

narc0tic_bird ,

I noticed the YouTube website sometimes has a 5 second delay or so before properly loading in with Vivaldi recently. Not sure if that’s related in any way.

dannym ,

Let’s remember, fellas, that big tech is not a disease that needs to be eradicated. Let us not forget that Google is a legitimate corporation, not merely a group of professional stalkers. And let’s be clear: obviously you are the crazy ones for worrying about this, naturally…

Pardon my jest; I was merely echoing the absurdities often heard.

Maybe just maybe it’s time we stop with this garbage and actually stop using their services. Nothing will change if we keep using their services.

The most direct and effective strategy to inspire reform in their practices is to stop using of their platforms. Each time we use a service from Google or any similar big tech entity, we inadvertently endorse their methods.

YOU hold the power to change them by using FOSS alternatives instead.

Tattorack ,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, but the problem is the convenience.

Google has made their services convenient, which is why everyone I like to watch content of posts their stuff on YouTube. Both alternive websites and the content on them is often of inferior quality and difficult to find.

dannym ,

Then use alternative youtube clients, like piped or freetube.

Or even better: spend money (if you can afford it) to host a peertube instance that automatically rips the videos off of youtube.

That’s an even stronger message that you’d rather spend money than use their crappy free services.

force ,

that sounds EXPENSIVE, ima stick with piped lest my wallet get piped

dannym ,

it’s not cheap, but it’s not prohibitively expensive either, unless you watch a prohibitive amount of youtube (i.e. you watch youtube 24/7)

You can get a 10TB hard drive for slightly under 200 dollars today, then just throw it in an old computer (even if the parts are 10+ years old, it’s fine), install a linux distro and install peertube.

Frost752 ,
@Frost752@lemmy.world avatar

Didnt know this could be done, looks like ive got something new to throw on the home server.

2xsaiko ,
@2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Or even better: spend money (if you can afford it) to host a peertube instance that automatically rips the videos off of youtube.

Oh that’s amazing. I’m gonna see about doing that for channels I actively watch. Gives me an excuse to unfuck my NAS storage too since then it’ll be full faster.

Do you know of any software that does that already (I assume PeerTube itself doesn’t)?

dannym ,

Peertube does indeed have that functionality

2xsaiko ,
@2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Nice!

Tattorack ,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Piped doesn’t work most of the time. In fact, I can’t remember a single Piped link actually loading the video. And I don’t have money to spend.

Brutticus ,

This is true. I have been having a GREAT time with Freetube

jeremyparker ,

which is why everyone I like to watch content of posts their stuff on YouTube

I’m not sure this is exactly true - like, first off, I am not a YouTuber and I only watch a very specific kind of content there (breadtube), so idk if my opinion is valid, but

From what I’ve heard creators say, it’s not that YouTube is great, in fact it kind of sucks in a lot of ways, it’s just that the alternatives don’t do it better, and obviously don’t have the size & reach. All the things that YouTube does badly or not at all, the competition doesn’t do well either, so why bother.

You’re 100% right tho that Google’s success at this point hinges almost entirely on their convenience. Google drive/docs/sheets/etc are kinda garbage, but they’te fast, simple to use, and the integration is incredibly smooth. If there was any alternative that was as simple to transition into from email or whatever, I’d jump ship in a second.

Viking_Hippie , (edited )

Actually, the main problem isn’t that they’ve made their services convenient. Most of them are inconvenient in multiple ways.

The really big problem, the absolutely INSIDIOUS shit is how extremely inconvenient they’ve made using alternatives.

Example: Google the search engine straight up sucks from an end user perspective now. Yet because it’s where over 90% of all search engine searches happen, it’s MORE inconvenient to use any other one, no matter how much better the algorithms and what have you.

Same with YouTube: the user experience becomes worse and worse, but since it has a de facto near-monopoly of certain types of content from certain creators, best you can do is a custom frontend. Which they’re of course trying to make impossible ever since they removed the “Don’t” from their original informal slogan.

Rentlar ,

Insidious

A good plug to use Invidious for sure, intentional or not.

Viking_Hippie ,

Unintentional but very much welcomed 😁

Wiz ,

Offering a free convenient service is the first step of enshittification.

[Side eye at Bluesky]

deur ,

Under the same logic we can say that Lemmy is in its first stage of enshittification, lol. You need to refine the criteria.

Wiz ,

Ok, a for-profit entity offering a free product.

You must be fun at parties.

steltek ,

You described a straight up better product. That’s not convenience. You said it yourself: alternatives have worse quality.

nutsack ,

good old fosstube

PoliticalAgitator ,

The most direct and effective strategy to inspire reform in their practices is to stop using of their platforms.

The whole “the free market could fix it” is just neoliberal bullshit. The most hated companies in the world continue to bring in record profits and its not because people prefer their chocolate is harvested by child slaves.

They’re fully aware that it never works, but they just keep suggesting it over and over again, growing richer with successive failure, all the while blaming consumers for not preventing them doing sleazy, greedy things.

The actual most direct and effective strategy is regulations. That’s why they hate them and why there are so many of them in politics.

Hadriscus ,

Thank you. I’m tired of hearing “it’s the consumer’s responsability” when we have governments and various regulatory bodies for this exact reason

Rinox ,

BTW, this:

https://feddit.it/pictrs/image/0e13c670-4966-4073-89df-f042fe9cc6de.webp

Meltrax ,

This is some ultimate scumbaggery.

filcuk ,

This should be illegal, Firefox being their competition (tangentially)

LufyCZ ,

It honestly probably is

UnculturedSwine ,

EU might hit them for it. I have no faith that the US government is going to do anything.

Thermal_shocked ,

The thing that gets me is they think no one will ever find this stuff. There are hundreds of thousands of people (maybe more) who are actively looking ways to block ads and get around this behavior. There’s no way it’ll ever go unnoticed.

Natanael ,

They could literally have used some variance in implementation, server side bandwidth limitations, etc, but THIS is just blatantly obvious

fossilesque ,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

I wonder if it’s a case of malicious compliance.

AeroLemming ,

I hope so. I’d like to think we have a few people on the inside secretly fighting for the average consumer.

fossilesque ,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

The world runs on the shoulders of disgruntled employees. This smells like a deliberate act backed up with a paper trail to protect the guy in charge of implementing it from taking the blame. But, I realise that also may be my imagination… It’s a compelling tale regardless.

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

The world runs on the shoulders of disgruntled employees.

That’s one hell of a phrase that should keep any CEO awake at night.

Hadriscus ,

Exactly what I was thinking. Let’s not say it too loud for the sake of our mole(s)

Aux ,

I believe that Google is just trolling people real hard. There are much better ways to disable any adblocks, but they are not even trying.

creditCrazy ,
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

Ok so this is just client side I’d imagine I’d be pretty easy to make an addon that removes the code

the_q ,

That’s not the point.

A2PKXG ,
@A2PKXG@feddit.de avatar

Is there something like:

If(not chrome){add_delay()}

?

TrippaSnippa ,

No, the full context of the code snippet doesn’t appear to check the browser user agent at all. Other comments have explained that it’s most likely a lazy implementation of a check for ad blockers.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

So this is part of a larger adblock checker, if the ad doesn’t load within 5 seconds, it fails and triggers the adblocker warning. Since the ad should load in 3, they’ve set it for 5. If you have ubo, you won’t see the warning that it then wants to pop up, it just seems (and is) a 5 second delay. Changing the UA probably removes this from Firefox because then the clientside scripts will attempt to use builtin Chrome functions that wouldn’t need this hacky script to detect the adblock. Since they don’t exist, it just carries on.

localhost443 ,

I was wondering how badly out of context the above quote must be considering the UA isn’t checked in the function. Above poster is trying to construe it as a pure and simple permanent delay for Firefox.

That being said, the solution is still bullshit.

Adalast ,

That is just the timeout function, not the call stack. It is likely called in a function that uses a UA check.

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

I was wondering how badly out of context the above quote must be considering the UA isn’t checked in the function. Above poster is trying to construe it as a pure and simple permanent delay for Firefox.

The UA check can happen before the function is called though.

Ensign_Crab ,

Reminds me of the “Netscape Navigator has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down” errors that Windows 98 used to throw.

It would only throw one, and you could just move it out of the way and keep using Netscape.

Guster ,

I’m not seeing this issue on Firefox?

thisisawayoflife ,

Time to start copying those videos, irrespective of copyright, onto PeerTube instances.

MycelialMass ,

I’ve tried to use peertube before but I don’t see a lot of stuff. How do I find content on there? I probably don’t understand how it works

registrert ,
@registrert@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

As long as you host the instance yourself or use a special interest instance. Keep in mind that most Peertubes are ran by regular community folks and it’s not very nice to paint a target for Google on them.

northendtrooper ,

Here is a link of someone finding a Timeoutset: old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/…/k9w3ei4/

Hossenfeffer ,
@Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk avatar

Bless you for the old.reddit link.

joyjoy ,

Once upon a time, Google wanted to kill the user-agent.

mintiefresh ,

What if we are already using YouTube premium and have ublock on FF. Would user agent spoof still be needed??

How annoying.

manofdiamond ,

It does happen even with YouTube premium, so I guess yes

hai ,
@hai@lemmy.ml avatar

So this is way we can’t have nice things!

Desistance ,
@Desistance@lemmy.world avatar

This is antitrust worthy

HexesofVexes ,

“Ok, so blocking adblock hasn’t worked” “Let’s just slow them down” "That’s a great idea, no-one will ever notice"

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SheDiceToday ,

Is this something I’m just too invidioused to understand?

ripcord ,
@ripcord@kbin.social avatar

?

SheDiceToday ,

docs.invidious.io/instances/

corey389 ,

I feel like Reddit is doing the same shit.

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