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F_Haxhausen ,
@F_Haxhausen@lemmy.world avatar

Stop using youtube. It is made of poop.

maddenim ,

that’s where the content is and content is king

vsh ,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

Content king was sentenced for being pedo to 14 year olds. I smell Andrew Tate syndrome.

maddenim ,

my comment wasn’t referencing any character or profile called content king as I don’t know about them. It’s more so referring to the fact that most people will go to where the most content is. There is no point in using other services if you aren’t finding what you are looking for…

American_Jesus ,
maddenim , (edited )

I’m not very familiar with those services but are they not relying on YouTube, and therefore still YouTube in a way?

edit before anyone argues, I know these alternative frontends bring many privacy advantages and many usability advantages (and disadvantages). But the content still comes from YouTube which is what my argument is about. I wouldn’t say an alternative frontend (or client for that matter) is not using YouTube…

PoliteGhost ,

So, how to spoof chrome?

AustralianSimon ,
@AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

Use agent switcher plugin

addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/…/uaswitcher/

PoliteGhost ,

👍 thanks

Boomkop3 ,

Find an extension to change your user agent

Sanyanov ,

Use extensions that change your user agent

You can find them in add-ons store

American_Jesus ,

Change browser user-agent www.whatismybrowser.com

AAA ,

Spoofing the agent only makes it look like Firefox is being used less, and websites will care even less about it.

Soggytoast ,

Lately (few months) YouTube will not load whatsoever on my android phone nor tablet very often, activating a VPN fixes it instantly. Using basic YouTube app

0Xero0 ,
@0Xero0@lemmy.world avatar

just use ReVanced?

ARk ,

Likely just a network-related issue

thomcat ,
@thomcat@midwest.social avatar

Using a VPN on a shitty network won’t magically make your network connection better.

ARk ,

No, but it does affect what route your traffic goes through.

ghterve ,

No but it can definitely work around issues like a congested link between isp and Google, resolving network-related YouTube performance issues.

spamspeicher ,

It is possible. Maybe the peering from his ISP to YouTube is shit/ overloaded. That was an issue for Deutsche Telekom for a few years because Telekom didn’t want to pay for better peering. With a VPN it is possible to get good peering to your ISP and YouTube and in return faster load speeds.

thomcat ,
@thomcat@midwest.social avatar

Well crap, I didn’t consider that, thanks!

JTheDoc ,

There’s me thinking I had stuffed up my pFsense config. It had me duped into thinking I was responsible!

KuraiWolfGaming ,

I started noticing how sometimes youtube just seemingly refused to load fully on my phone. I thought it was just my crap internet. But since I use Iceraven, a fork of firefox, it seems that may be why.

AA5B ,

I wonder if this affects Safari too. Videos do seem to have more problems getting started to the point where I usually give up, but I assumed it was my ancient iPad conflict8 g with ever increasing code related to ads

SacrificedBeans ,

I noticed a delay on Opera with uBlock. I attributed it to invisible fights between the adblock and youtube. But idk if that’s relevant, I think Opera GX is chromium based.

llama ,
@llama@midwest.social avatar

The YouTube viewing experience on FF is terrible. I have premium no ads and still manage to break the interface occasionally by clicking a new video or seeking the video playing.

blahsay ,

Firefox is great for YouTube. Don’t support google via premium - those guys aren’t exactly short of a dime. Addblockers are flawless.

victorz ,

Must be the premium experience then. I have zero issues on Firefox, on Linux, with adblocker. 👌

Fedizen ,

sounds desperate. I’d be selling google stock if I had any, are they really so dependent on loans that interest rates are killing them or is this more AI fuelled bullshit?

JonEFive ,

I’d be selling google stock if I had any

If you did, you probably wouldn’t. Unfortunate as it may be, Google is an unfathomably massive business that continues to generate value for their shareholders. Any stock sales by an average individual as a protest are meaningless. Even if you sold a million dollars worth of stock, it wouldn’t mean anything to them.

Alphabet’s market cap is currently 1.7 trillion dollars. With a T. $1,700,000,000,000.

We can extrapolate from there just how much money would need to move for them to pay even a little attention. For example, $170 million dollars is just 0.01%. Granted a move that large from a single investor might cause a brief drop as others sell as well, but investors are just gonna buy it all up at a discount. They’ll call it a market correction and keep on going.

I’m not saying you should just roll over and accept their shit, but money is not the way to do it unless you can move more than a billion dollars.

Fedizen ,

Its possible one of the problems plaguing most countries today is that tech companies are greatly overvalued. I think musk made this obvious with twitter but across the board you see almost identical playbooks by every major tech company. This is maybe because they aren’t as profitable as they’ve been saying.

HopelessDemigod ,
@HopelessDemigod@mstdn.social avatar

@db0

This is starting to get into the antitrust arena. DOJ needs to take action.

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly thought this was a glitch because it has happened before where youtube would freeze, usually from some backend error, and the whole page wouldn’t load.

Really getting desperate lol.

vortexal ,
@vortexal@sopuli.xyz avatar

In addition to the fact that I remember this happening several years ago, I’m pretty sure this has been an issue for a while. When I decided to exclusively use Firefox about a year ago, YouTube as a whole would load slowly and it still does.

And I hate the fact that Google knows that they will benefit from this because, unfortunately, a majority of YouTube users are sheeple.

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

My adblocker has a feature for that

Also, if you want to use a firefox based browser, use Librewolf, firefox is full of bloat now.

trk ,
@trk@aussie.zone avatar

Is it irony that they release a privacy based browser on the Microsoft Store?

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Librewolf is on the microsoft store?..And so it is! Don’t get it from there. That build most likely isn’t actually Libre

Anti_Face_Weapon ,

What is your adblocker?

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Adguard for desktop. You may want to add AdNauseam into all your browsers as well. It helps spoof the anti-adblock stuff by making that bullshit think you’re clicking on ads

Xune531 ,

What’s why it sucked ass this weekend?!? Fuckers.

rdri ,

Did someone actually investigate and find the exact place in scripts where this logic takes place?

EDIT: Yes. androidauthority.com/youtube-reportedly-slowing-d…

sulgoth ,

This sounds like something that would be in the back end so likely not. But if spoofing user agents fixes the problem then I’d say it’s evidence enough to warrant a deeper look.

tegs_terry ,

Is that easy to do?

Senshi ,

Yes. User Agent is a http header that is part of every request you send to a server. As such, it is 100% client side and it can be whatever you want, it’s just a text string. For layman users, I’d recommend using an addon for it, e.g. addons.mozilla.org/…/user-agent-string-switcher/

Of course, you can also change the user agent string in the browser config manually. The official Mozilla support page describes the process in detail: …mozilla.org/…/how-reset-default-user-agent-firef…

rdri ,

When they decide to do tricks in the backend differently between browsers, there will be ways to overcome that.

fernandofig ,
@fernandofig@reddthat.com avatar

Have you read past that screenshot of the code, though? It says the problem was not limited to Firefox, it seems Edge users reported problems as well. Anecdotally, I did experience that delay problem on Thorium this weekend as well. I have seen a variation of this problem almost a month ago, where sometimes the video would take a long time (like, over a minute, sometimes) to load, or often just not load at all. So I just chalked it up to Youtube having done something stupid on their end.

fosho ,

it’s pretty inconclusive if there’s no context for how that code is called. I’m kinda confused why the article wouldn’t have provided any additional detail other than a single line of code. why bother digging at all?

_thisdot ,
@_thisdot@infosec.pub avatar

it’s part of their anti-adblock code. without going into too much details, they can instantly find out whether ad-block is trying to do anything on chrome, but on firefox they need a 5 sec delay

victorz ,

Which is honestly to Firefox’s credit. Making it harder to find out stuff about your browser is a good thing, unless it has to do with feature support.

But the fact that they don’t give a shit and are willing to ruin the user experience for it, that’s despicable.

DolphinMath ,

I’d be more likely to believe that if spoofing your user agent didn’t immediately fix the issue.

lipilee ,

that half sentence in the aa article though

“That move makes sense in many ways, as the platform needs to make money to survive…”

should we also start a gofundme for youtube, i am suddenly worried for them /s

businessfish ,
@businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

not saying we should worry for them, but youtube is run at a loss so they do actually need money from SOMEWHERE to maintain youtube. youtube still sucks and this is definitely not the way to win over users but thems the facts

billiam0202 ,

Alphabet made $50 billion in profit last year. They’ve got enough to run YouTube, but enough isn’t enough.

jimbo ,

I’m not seeing any delays, 5 second or otherwise, when using Firefox.

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