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tisktisk ,

As a 30-year-old trying to break out into a tech career, this is incredibly disheartening.
Really difficult to not give up all hope with headlines like these. How to believe in potentials for opportunities with these barrages of bad news? Where is the hope--Any silver linings at all?

AlexanderESmith ,

Get 5 remote work jobs and keep the ones that don't suck.

Eezyville OP ,
@Eezyville@sh.itjust.works avatar

Apply to non-tech companies. There ate many companies who aren’t in the tech sector that relies on in-house tech.

peopleproblems ,

As the OP said, get a job outside of tech.

The biggest research hospitals employ electronic engineers, software engineers, chemical engineers, physicists, statisticians, network engineers, sysdamins, etc.

Insurance companies? Auto industry? Power companies, pharmaceuticals, local governments etc. The best part about being a STEM is that you have a place everywhere. You just gotta be willing to bend your expectations until you find something that fits you.

admin ,

But how do I find those jobs? When I search in Indeed all I get are tech companies or MSP’s. I’m currently working as a sysadmin for a Mom & Pop company and are severely underpaid.

khapyman ,

Find something middle sized. I work in a bakery, around 200 employees. I do some industrial automation, in house IT support and I ended up writing ERP for the joint. I think I could get 20 to 30 percent more at a larger company but here I do what I want and not what I’m told to.

Ragnarok314159 ,

My dude, if you lived in the right city, could pass a drug screen, and are not a moron, could get you an interview for a job installing power grid equipment in a week. With overtime take home pay is usually around 80k first year, after that it depends on how much you want to work.

We have blue collar guys making 250k+ a year. Granted they are away from their home most of the time, but most of them are younger dudes with no family.

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

You like tech? You like wiring up and programming state-of-the-art commercial automation, access control, and cctv systems? You like to move around as well and work with your hands and tools, all on the same job? Become an electronic security technician. Been doing it for 20 years, it's great, and always hiring, almost never firing, unless you get caught smoking meth or something.

Nothing wrong with a more blue-collar style job.

Ragnarok314159 ,

Similar job is power grid installation. Those are in high demand, and you get yourself a passport and you can make even more setting up transformers in weird places in the world after a few years experience.

tisktisk ,

This sounds beyond ideal--I don't know if you're trolling, because I have to imagine this line of work is never in demand at all, but hoping for interviews soon, and I can't thank you enough even if you're joking

NewNewAccount ,

What kind of tech are you trying to get into?

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Probably just keeping the staff needed to replace all the 13th and 14th gen CPUs.

TheGoldenGod ,
@TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world avatar

I really hope they plan on fixing the problems with those generations. 🤞

glimse ,

They aren’t fixing shit since the problem is unfixable

KickMeElmo ,

The problem is fixable in microcode -if- it hasn’t already caused damage to the CPU. Most CPUs are fucked.

BassTurd ,

The micro code fix is to throttle the CPU. It’s only kind of a fix.

M0oP0o ,

And the “fix” (big foam helmet) is not even out yet. They don’t have the chips to replace them all right now and are still selling more. You can help yourself by setting the clock speed (no boost) yourself.

Oh and after the foam helmet gets put on they will still sell these using the old higher specs.

floofloof ,

It sounds like a workaround, not a fix. And it’s not clear that it stops the processor degradation, rather than just slowing it.

zurohki ,

There’s no such thing as stopping processor degradation, it’s just that it usually takes so long that nobody cares anymore.

TheGoldenGod ,
@TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world avatar

I suppose I should’ve phrased it as, compensating. Seeing as they are still being sold.

ChicoSuave ,

American companies don’t compensate unless legally obligated.

floofloof ,

And then they send you a $10 Uber Eats card.

sunzu ,

They just want you to wat out of their hand so you don't have a standing to sue.

NutWrench ,
@NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

I guess Intel needed that QA team, after all.

suction ,

Non essential work, oh dear Product and Project managers, where are you gonna stand in the way of good products next?

SocialMediaRefugee ,

Executives will be “essential”, QA, sys admins, etc will be non essential.

III ,

Eliminating QA is a huge value. We all know it reduces costs relating to employing people, but that’s just the start. It eliminates the number of bugs found and reduces the amount of work that comes with it. All in all it helps projects to release on time. There could be no problem with this, clearly.

isles ,

All my KPIs are saying this is a win.

Aceticon ,

If you don’t check it, it never fails a check!

What’s there not to like?!

Alph4d0g ,

Traditional QA is horse and buggy shit anyway. Shift left and make your tests the requirements (ATDD). Testing is self service, automated and there’s zero delta between behavior intended and behavior tested. Put product owners on the hook to learn Gherkin and Bob’s your uncle.

barsquid ,

The money needs to return to the government. Some wealthy fucks are lining their pockets.

homesweethomeMrL ,

What the actual fuck

rottingleaf ,

There’s no corporate death penalty, but there is corporate death from alcoholism, coke overdose and syphilis.

I mean, you do a TRAFU and instead of firing those logically responsible for it you fire your actual troops.

This basically means they failed to find scapegoats inside the company who wouldn’t be management themselves.

Wow.

TropicalDingdong ,

Seems like a great time to buy AMD, ARM and QUAL

_bcron ,

Only if you have conviction. Buying tech in the face of recession fears is one thing, but buying tech that supplies hardware to tech is another. It’ll probably sound like a whip cracking if the AI frenzy ever collapses hard

Allonzee , (edited )

This is an admisson of no future.

They’re throwing crew out of their boat full of holes to assure investors they’re ship shape… for the next quarterly profit report.

Their corpse will be long since picked clean of their patents, assets, and trademarks by 2030.

hardcoreufo ,

I work in the industry and my understanding of the chips act is certain goals must be met in order to receive money. Something like in order to get this 50 million, you must buy 100 million of new equipment and facilities improvement. In order to get this 25 million you must have 50 million worth of new jobs. These requirements were also spread out over years so you couldn’t artificially inflate your work force or sell off equipment.

Not saying Intel doesn’t suck, but I doubt they are getting chips act money now. Or they will have to have a big turn around in the next few years to do so. They certainly aren’t getting a free 8 billion.

kandoh ,

These layoffs will only be for a quarter or two. Just enough for the c-levels to unlock their full bonuses.

interdimensionalmeme ,

And create a glut in their labour market niche, which will take many years before the wages recover to what they were. In the current 20 year permanent labour shortage scenario, this is the way to prevent wages from increasing. Sure these demand shocks will create issues by they’re making the bet the lower overall expenses for wages will make it all worth it. This is them leveraging the imbalance of power been employer and employee

0ddysseus ,

If only there were some tried and tested method for the working class to join together and create a power block equal to the company in order to negotiate better pay and conditions and avoid these outrageous tactics. Pity

Alpha71 ,

Exactly! And then the Government can declare you an essential service and take away all your bargaining power!

Oh wait…

DragonTypeWyvern ,

More like oh no, here I go molotoving again.

HelloHotel ,
@HelloHotel@lemmy.world avatar

I hope it will never hit that point where its the only way forward.

PanArab , (edited )

So the semiconductor jobs and manufacturing aren’t coming back to the US?

Who else saw this coming? Because I did.

I remember telling people that and they wouldn’t believe it. Time has a way of making the unknown known.

fluxion ,

Read article

PanArab , (edited )

I read it and predicted this outcome in 2022. If Intel wanted to open factories and employ people in the US it would have done so without the CHIPS Act.

No company will say no to free taxpayers’ money, so they didn’t. But they spent it on stock buybacks and now they’re laying off thousands of workers and are selling a defective product.

Now here’s an article for you to read that may be unpalatable globalsouth.co/…/michael-hudson-why-the-u-s-econo…

fluxion ,

Fair criticisms, but the statement from CEO is that the layoffs are to offset fab investments, so there isn’t any clear reason to conclude that Intel’s US chip manufacturing is dead based on this. We won’t be able to infer anything of that sort until we see what areas they actually cut.

PanArab ,

Future promises vs present actions. Only time will tell.

FiniteBanjo ,

Somebody should make a Borat Meme with AMD and Intel “Big Success!”

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Done.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0498065e-b80e-49c2-814e-0792bc3fad70.png

Vailliant ,

Thank you kind sir!

Cossty ,

While i dont like intel, I hope they wont sack GPU division.

bitwaba ,

They won’t. That’s their springboard into that multi trillion dollar AI market everyone keeps talking about

Wispy2891 ,

unless some MBA decides that it’s better to sell single purpose expensive ai boards without video output

uis ,

Anyone else still beliving capitalism will do R&D willingly? Even most recent and hyped(not without reason) development - powervia - came from institute from former soviet bloc.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Lets hope they ditch the israel division

Johanno ,

Why that specifically?

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Because Intel takes American subsidies, so it would be best to keep the money circulating in America by providing jobs to Americans. Not subsidize some Apartheid in the Middle East.

Snowpix ,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

Linkerbaan isn’t capable of any discussion that doesn’t involve Israel, and must involve it in any thread he participates in no matter how irrelevant. This is just what he does.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder how irrelevant Intel is to israel

Intel Israel is the largest private employer in the Israeli hi-tech

Also nice false framing and straight up lying about my activity on Lemmy.

Maggoty ,

Boycott Divest Sanction

It’s not necessarily the thread to bring it up but linkerbaan is on a mission.

rottingleaf ,

Let’s hope they ditch.

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