There have been multiple accounts created with the sole purpose of posting advertisement posts or replies containing unsolicited advertising.

Accounts which solely post advertisements, or persistently post them may be terminated.

blady_blah ,

I would rather pay an add-block company a monthly subscription than give it to YouTube in blackmail. This will just be another salvo in a never ending war.

helpImTrappedOnline ,

Maybe if they cleared out the scams and served more than 3 ads on repete, I wouldn’t feel the need to block them. Yes, no one likes ads, but I get its to pay for the content I’m watching for free.

elbucho ,
@elbucho@lemmy.world avatar

I find it fascinating how media companies evolved their usage of ads over time. Used to be that the purpose of showing someone an ad was to get them to buy your product. Now, though, the companies who make the ads are paying to have them put on media networks who use the ads to annoy you into paying for a premium membership so you don’t have to see them. It’s double dipping.

Not sure how I would feel if I made an ad, and YouTube was saying to their users: “Yeah, you like that fucking ad? Super annoying, isn’t it? If you don’t pay me more money, I’m going to cram that annoying bullshit down your throat every time you want to watch a video. I’m going to put ads at the beginning of videos. I’m going to sprinkle them throughout the middle. Hell, I’m even going to make you watch ads after the video ends! You like that, you little bitch??”

simplejack ,
@simplejack@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the evolution of the premium cable model. HBO, Showtime, etc. The upgraded cable tier has ad-free content and exclusives.

elbucho ,
@elbucho@lemmy.world avatar

Yup. I’m old enough to remember when the selling point of cable TV was that it was ad-free. Then, of course, they started adding ads. And then they sold us premium channels that didn’t have ads. Now those have ads, too. You just can’t get away from them.

homesweethomeMrL ,

And that’s when I moved to Invidious and haven’t looked back

ramble81 ,

This is where AI would come in handy. Start scrubbing the buffer as it’s coming in to identify the difference and jump past it.

cRazi_man ,

It becomes an AI war. They will use AI to make ads to get around the AI blocking. The ads will end up looking very similar to the content.

Ad: “Hey guys. It’s ya boy, NordVPN, here today to tell you about the dangers of using the internet without my VPN…”

cheese_greater ,

Whatever happened to ad placement lol

Kowowow ,

Then you start using ai to put in anti ads that point out all the bad stuff about the usual ad subjects, I’d say get as code to libel/slander as possible without risking a lawsuit

Azzu ,

Aren’t they legally required to indicate that an ad is playing? Should be almost trivial to detect and I don’t know how they’d get around that.

some_guy ,

Aha! So this is how one snuck into a video I downloaded last night. Fuckers. At least with a locally downloaded file I can quickly skip ahead.

elbarto777 ,

Or even trim it.

RonnyZittledong ,
@RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world avatar

This must consume a tremendous amount of processing to do since they would have to transcode copies for every ad region/campaign and every resolution on demand. I am interested in how they made this financially viable.

Nollij ,

Not necessarily. They could split the video in advance, assuming the ads will always be at the same point. Even if not, they could still use the direct, unaltered source with a range. The big challenge would be keeping it all synced, which I think is safe to say that they will get right.

But even if it did need to be transcoded, YouTube automatically transcodes every single video uploaded, multiple times. They are clearly not afraid of it.

EleventhHour ,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

If you’ve ever used yt-dl, you’ll know that YT vids are all split into multiple files. Presumably, this is where the ads get injected.

AProfessional ,

I’d guess its a solution similar to DASH that dynamically streams different content.

Bishma , (edited )
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

~~My local invidious instance is borked too. Not sure if its related and I don’t have time to investigate now. ~~ Guess I need something else for background noise.

Edit: Took enough time to get a fresh image and its working again. Looks like I hadn’t updated since September.

dinckelman ,

I know there’s a significant part of the market that’d just say yeah, fuck it, i’ll pay for Redtube Youtube Red Youtube Premium, but there’s also a significant part of it, where a lot of people would rather just stop watching stuff entirely.

It’s just like Hulu back in the days. You’d have no choice but to pay for a premium tier, just to have 14 unskippable ads forced down your throat, all in a span of a 19 minute long tv episode. I stopped paying after that month and resorted to piracy.

Piracy is always a service issue, except now it’s legitimately going to harm individual creators, who have just about everything to lose, rathen that a rotten husk of some corporation, that’s going to print free money, no matter what you do

baggins ,

I’d 100% pay for it if the pricing made any sense.

dinckelman ,

The price is absolutely obscene. No fucking way i’m paying that

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

except now it's legitimately going to harm individual creators,

I know it isn't the world we live in anymore, and there's nothing we can do about it...but maybe we shouldn't have treated YouTube like a job and just kept it as a hobby video website between ordinary people. Like what it started out as.

dinckelman ,

To be honest, whether we want it or not, art is a necessary aspect of society. The issue here is that we put a lot of trust in a corporate environment, the entire goal of which is to pocket as much as possible, while riding the success of the people creating stuff

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Yeah that's what I mean. People created entire careers which are 100% dependent on the whims of a mega corporation. It never seemed like a stable source of income to me. I've always treated it like it's just a silly video site, nothing more.

furzegulo ,

how i wish there was a good alternative for youtube

QuadratureSurfer ,
@QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world avatar

Grayjay has been useful for that. I still follow people on YouTube, but if they setup a channel anywhere else I can switch my feed to draw from those sources instead.

some_guy ,

Support candidates who want to limit the ability for large tech companies to acquire their competitors. Maybe even those that wish to see their acquisitions rolled back. Maybe even those that wish to see them broken up.

elbarto777 ,

P-Peertube?

polonius-rex , 
www.youtube.com##+js(json-prune-fetch-response, playerAds adPlacements adSlots playerResponse.playerAds playerResponse.adPlacements playerResponse.adSlots, , propsToMatch, /player?)

Click on uBO icon > ⚙ Dashboard button > Add the filter(s) in "My filters" pane > ✓ Apply changes > Open new tab and test again.

from the reddit page idk if it works but most comments say it does

and if it does, that's fucking hilarious

this will have taken a team months of work and one ublock dev just threw it in the toilet within an hour

ShunkW ,

This worked for me. Thanks!

downpunxx OP ,

ok, so i added this code to my ublock origin filter list, then went to youtube, and the injected ads were still showing up in about half the vids. closed firefox, reopened, same. rebooted my win11 machine, now the injected ads are NOT showing up any longer. not sure if youtube switched it off because they're still beta testing this bullshit or if the code is working but it SEEMS to be working. if it stops i'll come back to edit this comment. thanks for the tip man!

big_slap ,

👑

kokesh ,
@kokesh@lemmy.world avatar

So in theory… can reVanced come up with something like this,

zcd ,

Fuck youtube

illi ,

Since it is server side, will this effect the alternative front ends?

magic_lobster_party ,

That’s the point. They want to stop people bypassing ads by using alternative front ends. If they succeed with server side ads, then it’s going to be difficult to block ads. Maybe not impossible, but difficult.

illi ,

That’s what I figured, but I’m not expert on how things work so wanted someone who knows more chime in. Sad times

DevCat ,
@DevCat@lemmy.world avatar

Yet another reason I’m glad I use youtube-dl.

empireOfLove2 ,
@empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

If they’re truly server-side injected, then they would also appear permanently in any downloaded copy because the servere would be telling the client what pieces are available-including the ad pieces.

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

At least I can trim those away if needed.

aedelred ,
@aedelred@lemmy.world avatar

At least if still downloads them you can edit them out if it’s something you want to save.

shortwavesurfer , (edited )

New article title. YouTube tests more ways of making their service shit and driving away users.

Edit: TIFO Scott Manley is on Odysee so i will start watching him there instead. One less yt channel is always a good thing

Wogi ,

I mean, if you’re not paying for it, and they can’t advertise to you, what do they need you for?

Fiivemacs ,

To keep claiming they have x billion accounts…

There’s a big reason why these companies don’t remove the bots and willingly allow them to do whatever. It boosts their numbers to inflate their actual worth.

eager_eagle ,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

at least on my part, what they get from channel memberships (a whopping 30%) I’m sure exceeds the amount in ad revenue they lose from me

tabular ,
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

Does YouTube have competition? Your line of inquiry doesn’t mean much if the content is only on YouTube.

Wogi ,

I’m not sure what point you think you’re making.

YouTube doesn’t want you visiting if they can’t either put ads in front of you or get you to subscribe to premium. I appreciate wanting to access YouTube without ads, but from where they’re sitting, if they scare you off with server side ads all the better.

unexposedhazard ,

Youtube is google No 1 source of machine learning content. Fuckloads of video, audio and subtitle data they can use to feed and train their systems. Youtube itself doesnt need to make profit, thats just a bonus for them.

Wogi ,

YouTube advertising is more than 10% of Google services total profits.

That’s not a bonus, that’s a dependant revenue stream.

IsThisAnAI ,

YouTube: oh no, the freeloaders costing us money are going away, what will we ever do!?

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