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MasterHound ,

Hope this is rolled out to other countries and not just the US.

morbidcactus ,

I got the email in Canada, so yes? It’s not uncommon for us to not get things when they do across the border.

SpyDallyCandour ,

UK here, also got the email.

MasterHound ,

Oh nice! Knowing corporations though I’m just trying to figure out how they are going to screw us on this.

pixguin ,

It should be rolled out globally according to Tidal’s support article:

We’re updating our pricing for TIDAL globally

dutchkimble ,

Not for Thailand yet, but the Thai price is anyway cheaper

Fubarberry ,
@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

That’s a pretty good price, if YT music ever takes away my $8 a month early sign up pricing I’ll probably look at swapping over.

skyspydude1 ,

Just do it now. Give your money to a company that actually supports artists in a consumer friendly way.

Fubarberry ,
@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

Problem is I have this fantasy of being 95 years old and proudly showing my great great grandchildren how I get YT Music/Premium for $8 instead of the $695 everyone else pays.

That imagined sense of superiority from getting a good deal is pretty much the only thing that keeps me going some days.

andyburke ,
@andyburke@fedia.io avatar

This won't happen, you'll just end up in a shittier world by giving Google more money.

I can't force you, but your $8 "deal" isn't worth it.

zaph ,

Google services don’t last that long, sorry.

Fubarberry ,
@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

So far my $8 deal has outlived the service I got it for, so as long as I keep getting grandfathered in maybe it will stick around.

Briguy ,

I thought they went up for everyone? You’re still paying 8? I was paying 10 for the past like 8 years and mine just went into 14 last month. I opted for the yearly plan at $140 so it’s 11.66/mo so it lessened the blow. I envy you if you’re still paying 8.

Fubarberry ,
@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

If I remember right, people who had YouTube premium got grandfathered in at a lower price, but that lower price didn’t last forever and recently went up.

However people who signed up early for play music all access were told they would get an $8 a month price for signing up early, and that price has persisted until now through all the other price hikes and the change to YT Music.

Briguy ,

I signed up for Google play music/YouTube red I believe in 2015 when I got my nexus 6P. It was 10 a month then and I’ve been grandfathered till now. When the prices went up last summer, I was told I had another 6 months or so to keep my grandfathered price before mine would go up as well. Did the OG 8 dollar users not get that email?

Fubarberry ,
@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

No, never got an email like that. I signed up in 2013 I think, when Play Music All Access was announced.

Briguy ,

Good for you. I’m a little jealous I was 2 years late lol

Pantherina ,

Who uses YT music when there are so many free clients?

ominouslemon OP ,

I guess people who also like YT premium

hedgehog ,

I signed up back when it was “Google Play Music” and was locked into that deal as well. I didn’t want to lose it, but I wanted to upgrade to a family plan. Customer support promised me that if I upgraded, my family plan price would continue to be honored for just as long as the individual plan price.

Spoiler: they lied.

I had my account using a unique-per-service card with a monthly cap and it started rejected their billing attempts when, about a year ago, they abruptly increased my plan price to nearly double what I had been paying.

I had already been using uBlock Origin and Tidal via Plex (even though I don’t actually use Plex, but when I signed up I hadn’t yet decided to use Jellyfin), since I despise the YT Music UI, so for me there wasn’t much of a change.

That said, if you like YT Music / YT Premium then by all means stick with it. The creators of the videos you watch get comped better when you watch them than when a free user does - that was the main reason I kept my subscription for as long as I did.

jetsetdorito ,

I still regret giving up this plan

Thcdenton ,

Tidal is still around? I’m impressed

nick ,

Good news for the seven people who use tidal!

bitwolf ,

Does this mean we’re stuck with MQA? Or can we still forcibly use FLAC. I was on the lower tier purely to avoid MQA.

ominouslemon OP ,

No, there is what Tidal calls “HiRes FLAC”, which is 24-bit, 192 kHz. Their website does not even mention MQA anymore. They’ve moved away from MQA since early 2023, when the MQA company went bankrupt

ardi60 ,
@ardi60@reddthat.com avatar

Spotify vs Tidal vs Apple Music vs Youtube Music which one is better?

ominouslemon OP ,

If you care about sound quality, Tidal and Qobuz are the best. The rest comes down to preference, IMHO. I like Tidal’s recommendations, but I’ve also heard good things about Spotify’s and Apple’s

jul , (edited )

Tidal is the most popular option for audiophiles. What I also like about it is the fact that they pay artists much more fairly than other platforms. According to this, they payout $0.013 per stream on average (which means $1 per 77 streams). Because I listen to a lot of unknown artists it is important to me to be on a platform where I can support those artists much more directly.

AFAIK Spotify only pays the overall most listened to artists like Taylor Swift etc. I canceled my Spotify subscription when Neil Young quit Spotify.

EDIT: because this is becoming a bit popular, for anyone looking to migrate from Spotify to Tidal, I recommend this simple to use python script to migrate your playlists. And because we have a lot of Linux users here, check out tidal-hifi.

FunderPants ,

Is Neil on Tidal? I know he is in QoBuz.

jul ,

He is! And I think he returned to Spotify as well. Nope, still off.

accideath ,

Tidal may be most popular but the use of the lossy MQA codec for their “lossless” offerings is objectively worse than Deezer, Apple music and even Amazon Music.

jul ,

Good thing they are migrating to FLAC! Also, while MQA is objectively worse, subjectively it’s pretty much equal to objectively better options. At least for us humans :) I found this double-blind test of MQA critic Archimago and they couldn’t find a statistically significant difference between MQA and PCM :)

iegod ,

Tidal’s electronic selection isn’t great, it’s why I left the platform. But if you’re into pop music, and especially hip hop, it’s got you covered.

datendefekt ,
@datendefekt@lemmy.ml avatar

A few years ago I did listening comparisons of Amazon Music, Spotify, Deezer, Tidal and Quobuzz. At least for my ears, Tidal was way better, with engaging dynamic range and clarity. Quobuzz was just a little better, while listening to Spotify and Amazon Music was like FM radio in comparison, loud and compressed.

Pricewise, they’re all somewhat similar. I went with Tidal because it has good quality, a good catalogue, and pays the artists better.

kriz ,

I’m thinking of switching to Tidal. I’ve had YouTube music for awhile and I like it, but I just learned they fired a huge chunk of their staff after they unionized and that pissed me off. Anybody know how their rock and jazz selection is, especially with smaller lesser known artists?

jul , (edited )

I mainly listen to punk and it’s extremely hard to find bands that are not on Tidal. When I migrated my playlists to Tidal from Spotify, there was only 1 Band which didn’t exist on Tidal. But because it was only 1 song that was part of one of my playlists, I simply didn’t care. I don’t even remember which one it was. Aha, they’re called Valentiine (3 piece all-girl garage rock band from Melbourne, Australia) and they’re still not on Tidal. Still don’t care.

Can’t speak for Jazz though.

moody ,

Tidal also laid off 10% of their staff in December. Probably not union busting, at least.

hightrix ,

I spent a few months with each of them recently.

For me, Apple Music recommendations are by far the best. Tidal was decent but the UI was a pain and the integrations didn’t work well. Spotify had great integrations and easy device switching, but the recommendations were terrible, for me. YouTube music is the worst of the batch. Bad UI, bad recommendations, and just not a music lovers platform.

So, I use Apple Music. For me, it is the best since the GOAT Google Play Music was retired.

jul ,

Interesting. For me, none of any recommendation algorithm worked decently well for me. I find new bands via following other bands (on Instagram, sadly), look at what they listen to, what bands they hang/tour/do concerts with or by asking other punks or by checking other communities.

hightrix ,

It takes a month or so before recommendations start to get close to my tastes. Apple has consistently recommended either old bands I haven’t listened to in years or new bands that I end up liking. Sure, they still fail from time to time, but I listen to a very wide variety and Apple seems to be the only platform to recognize that if I’m listening to metallica, I don’t want to hear kid cudi in the same playlist

PoliticallyIncorrect ,
@PoliticallyIncorrect@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe I would consider paying for tidal but as I am pirating YT music thought ReVanced I think I wouldn’t, so good luck anyway.

Codilingus ,

I wish it was getting cheaper…I’ve been @ $6.35/month for their CD FLAC quality middle tier, with my veteran discount for a few years.

Has been perfect for my budget HiFi setup.

Now it’s nearly doubling in cost, and they won’t have the discount anymore…

Electric_Druid ,

Any variation of “yep, you read that right” makes me instantly not care, idk

ominouslemon OP ,

It does sound clickbait-y and I guess that’s why there are butthurt people in the comments. I guess its meaning is “literally everyone is raising prices, while Tidal is lowering them”. TBF I also had to read the title again because it’s pretty strange to see prices decrease

Electric_Druid ,

I mean good on tidal for doing that, no hate towards them.

li10 ,

Not surprised, I was fed up with the cost so setup a new account with a Nigerian VPN, only a few pound per month with that method.

Might switch back to a UK account if they make the price more reasonable here.

Engywuck ,

I did the same (Nigeria) a few months ago for a family account. They have still to charge me anything for it. And the account is actually working anyway. I don’t know why. I also emailed them about this and they replied that everything is fine on their end… Well, thank you for the free account, Mr. Tidal.

Varyk ,

Are they pretending everyone knows what that is?

DarkNightoftheSoul ,
@DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz avatar

By way of advertisement, yes.

autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Tidal seems to have decided that there just aren’t enough people willing to pay upward of $20 per month for the highest-possible audio fidelity.

At a high level, it sounds like this new, much simpler subscription model will still include all the perks — high-res FLACs, Dolby Atmos mixes, etc.

Now Tidal is caving and throwing in its large catalog of high-res tracks without demanding extra money on top.

With this move, Tidal could be trying to head off an eventual rollout of the rumored “Supremium” Spotify plan and avoid potential subscriber losses.

Either way, it’s an attempt to remain competitive in the streaming music landscape — or at least to stay relevant.

Tidal laid off 10 percent of its staff in December amid other cuts at parent company Block.

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