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bitwolf ,

Does this mean we’re stuck with MQA? Or can we still forcibly use FLAC. I was on the lower tier purely to avoid MQA.

ominouslemon OP ,

No, there is what Tidal calls “HiRes FLAC”, which is 24-bit, 192 kHz. Their website does not even mention MQA anymore. They’ve moved away from MQA since early 2023, when the MQA company went bankrupt

bitwolf ,

Tidal also pays artists significantly more than Spotify/ Apple Music. So they’re good-shittifying in both directions 🙂

Retrograde ,
@Retrograde@lemmy.world avatar

Interesting, what is this “reverse enshittification” you speak of

maxxxxpower ,

De-shittification?

Tlaloc_Temporal ,

I usually call that flushing

Retrograde ,
@Retrograde@lemmy.world avatar

So tidal essentially flushed it’s toilet

Tikiporch ,

Wipe-ification?

Zink ,
@Zink@pawb.social avatar

A rare instance of… unshittification?

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, like, when services are actually trying to compete for your business. It’s so nice when it (rarely) happens!

lepinkainen ,

Don’t forget that Apple Music also pays significantly more than Spotify. Just not as much as Tidal.

bitwolf ,

Oh yeah Spotify is definitely the worst in comparison

drivepiler ,

I read the email from Tidal four times and still didn’t believe they weren’t trying to fuck me over. Well, I’ll be damned.

Deadful ,
@Deadful@lemmy.world avatar

As far as I can tell, I’m actually in the vast minority in that I use the service on a family plan and with my DJ gear. Streaming for DJs is being removed from family plans and it now requires me to pay for an individual plan + $9 a month in addition to what I’m already paying for the wife and kids, so I’m thinking about canning it.

nick ,

Good news for the seven people who use tidal!

EndHD ,

The headline sounded good but the article lists a lot of negatives too. They’re removing discounts for veterans/first responders, they recently laid off 10% of staff, and their price now matches Amazon and Apple. So don’t mistake this for good intention; this is just a business’ survival instincts taking over.

deweydecibel ,

their price now matches Amazon and Apple

That’s a negative?

So don’t mistake this for good intention; this is just a business’ survival instincts taking over.

A business made a business decision, yes. Your point?

Thcdenton ,

Tidal is still around? I’m impressed

mellowheat ,

Awesome! I’ve been enjoying Tidal for a few months now, and now that it’s starting to learn what I like, I’m starting to like its recommendations as well.

Here’s hoping they keep staying on the relatively good side.

Muffi ,

Have they added podcast support to Tidal yet?

Deadful ,
@Deadful@lemmy.world avatar

God I hope not!

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Why not?

Like I don’t see the point of them adding it, either. But why would it be so bad?

hightrix ,

I’m not the OP, but when Spotify added these is made the user experience worse.

I used Spotify for music and only music. So seeing a row or two of podcasts inserted before music was really annoying. Getting podcast recommendations was also annoying. If they would have let me just opt out of seeing podcasts, there would not have been any issues. But they didn’t.

I don’t use Spotify anymore.

ripcord ,
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Thanks, makes sense!

Edit: ha, I got downvoted by a bunch of peolle for asking a question, apparently

hightrix ,

People here are weird. I tend to just ignore the votes.

Deadful ,
@Deadful@lemmy.world avatar

For the record, I wasn’t one of those people. I prefer to have a dialogue over punishing people for having an opinion, unless that opinion is harmful in some way.

Deadful ,
@Deadful@lemmy.world avatar

Of course I’m just speaking for myself, but I personally have several reasons for not wanting podcasts in the app (when I say podcasts I’m mainly talking about the video verity.)

The main reason is because I am on a family plan and my middle school daughter uses the app for music. We used to have Spotify, but when they added podcasts essentially it became a video streaming free for all and I would find my daughter watching “podcasts” that were just people shouting profanity over video game streams and tik tok compilations. On top of being young, she has a neurological disability and Spotify turning the social media faucet on full blast was more than she could handle. She was sneaking to watch these videos instead of doing her school work and sleeping and it was really starting to affect her life. We switched to Tidal because it did not have those features and she went through some withdrawal but she is much healthier now that she’s back to just jamming to music.

That ties into another point which is that nowadays anyone can throw a video together and call it a podcast regardless of the quality or content. Setting aside that I already have 8 different ways to watch this content on various audio and video streaming apps as it is, including podcasts on Tidal feels like a complete diversion from their marketing strategy of being the place to go for the very highest quality music. The small number of in-house music focused shows they feature now fit the brand well and I think they would lose their identity if they change that.

I could go on but this reply is long enough.

jacktherippah ,

Still not available in my country. Sadge.

Renorc ,

Tidal may not be the best streamer. It certainly does have its faults. But so do the others mentioned in these comments. For a subscription service to halve their rate is really unheard of. I appreciate it. This is really the type of pricing movement we need after so many years of out of control inflation. I wish Amazon, Disney, and Netflix would do something similar rather than endless cost increases without any improvement in services.

Moneo ,

I worry because like every streaming service they’ve slowly been reducing the amount they pay artists. How can they halve customer fees and not pay artists less?

ominouslemon OP ,

My guess is that they’ve realized that nobody subscribed to the highest tier, so they’ve incorporated its features into the normal tier, hoping to make it up in volume (I.e. new people subscribing because it’s cheap and it offers more than Spotify). So perhaps they are going to be able to pay artists the same rates

Deadful ,
@Deadful@lemmy.world avatar

As far as I can tell, I’m actually in the vast minority in that I use the service on a family plan and with my DJ gear. Streaming for DJs is being removed from family plans and it now requires me to pay for an individual plan + $9 a month in addition to what I’m already paying for the wife and kids, so I’m thinking about canning it.

Furedadmins ,

Spotify really beats everyone at cricket noises when responding to competitors.

knobbysideup ,
@knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works avatar

As a stand alone service I don’t think it is great, but feeding into Plex + Plexamp makes it awesome.

Tidal integrates with Plex local libraries seamlessly. Itslike having your own collections without having to rip or download anything.

PoliticallyIncorrect ,
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Anyone in the US can confirm if Tidal it’s free there?

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