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CaptPretentious ,

We believe this new price reflects the value of YouTube Premium

I disagree. YouTube offers nothing without the content creators. While reason I ever started using it because TotalBiscuit made a good case for it. But I have to say, while they keep jacking up prices I don’t feel like I’m getting anything more. I never asked for YT Music and would gladly take a discount to have it removed.

Keep fucking around and find out Google, I got no issues going back to ad blockers. Whole reason I got premium was to support those I watch and all I ever hear is how Google is fucken them over.

Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever ,

I mean, if you actually care about the content creators, YouTube premium is almost universally praised for paying content creators considerably more than ads do.

gendulf ,

I disagree. YouTube offers nothing without the content creators.

While yes, they depend on the creators, many of those creators would not make any money without a platform like YouTube. I don’t like the price raising, but YouTube stores your videos for free, and makes it easy to monetize content.

Rakonat ,

Wow, they really didn’t have much reason for me to want to use it before. I dropped Amazon Prime because it was getting too expensive and I was at least using that regularly!

macintosh ,

They emailed me thanking me for being a part of their journey for so long and as a gift they are delaying my rate going up by 3 months. Cool……

Pumpkinbot ,

“Thank you for being a loyal member! As a gift, we won’t fuck you over just yet.”

MrJameGumb ,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

People actually pay money to watch YouTube? I thought that was some kind of elaborate practical joke

exi ,

Honestly by far the best subscription I have.

13€/month to never see ads on any device, give a lot more money to creators and free access to YouTube music so I don’t need Spotify anymore. It’s amazing how much you get for comparatively little money.

TairikuOkami ,
@TairikuOkami@lemmy.world avatar

It is not that much, if it is the only service you are using, but for the record always compare yearly price, so 132€ vs 156€, that is 24€ more.

arashikage ,
@arashikage@lemmy.world avatar

I was grandfathered into their oldest pricing model back when Google Play Music was at its peak, and now they’re hiking my price too. I’ll be glad to see the subscription go and use revanced, but I need a better music streaming platform that’s 10 dollars or less

C126 ,

Plex is good if you’re willing to run your own.

atomicpeach ,
@atomicpeach@pawb.social avatar

Wait, we’re losing our grandfathered pricing?! Bummer. I guess I’ll give Tidal another shot. Their service was nice and I like that they pay the artist the most compared to the other popular platforms. I didn’t like their “radios”/auto playlists but maybe they’ve upgraded their algorithms since three years ago.

closedmouthsdonteat ,

I was a Google Play Music user too. I mainly used it to host my iTunes music library and music was a lot cheaper to buy vs iTunes and Amazon.

I ended up switching to Apple Music. Its not bad, but its not great either. I just needed another place to host my iTunes library

JackFromWisconsin ,
@JackFromWisconsin@midwest.social avatar

I got by for a long time using a YouTube playlist and Vanced. Might want to look into YouTube Revanced, it’s a patch for the YT app that deletes ads and adds some extra features.

Climinteedus ,

Spotify is $9.99/mo and it’s a pretty decent music service.

SuperSpruce ,

F*ck no. I was finally seriously considering buying YT premium for Google not f**king anything up in the past few months, bringing back sort by oldest, and knowing I’m not part of the anti AdBlock trial to make their anti AdBlock efforts less effective.

solidsnake2085 ,
@solidsnake2085@lemmy.world avatar

YouTube is by far the mose watched platform in my house. The only person that doesn’t watch YouTube regularly is my wife. If I could get any way to use the AdBlock version on my TV I would do it. But I can’t. So I pay for it.

NikkiDimes ,

SmartTube 😉

BromSwolligans ,

Sucks for me. I use iOS (I’m sorry) and that’s the original reason I got YouTube Red (back then): they make iOS users pay for background playback. Most of my YT consumption is documentary / essay / spoken word stuff so I need that feature to treat it like a podcast player, basically. Most of the rest of my YT consumption is in my living room, where ad blocking isn’t an option (and I hear even if it was, they’re catching up fighting ad blockers).

I hate the Web 2.0 “enshitification” of platforms, and I hate advertisements, and I’m willing to pay for a good, useful service. But this is a mixed bag. It’s still ‘enshitified’ because most of what it serves me is algorithmic and nothing to do with the hundreds of channels I’ve subscribed to over the 13 years I’ve had this particular account. It’s still chock full of ads because videos do sponsor blocks these days.

And the worst of it is they’ve got you by the balls and there’s really nothing stopping them from being Netflix and just continuing to raise and raise the price. I was an OG Netflix Instant Streaming for Xbox 360 user…years later when they finally booted me off my own family plan, we were paying like…$23 a month? For what had at that point become the worst video service? What stops YouTube from bumping up to $19.99/mo a couple years from now? It’s the only game in town.

OH and they’re also selling all your metrics. That’s the other thing. If I’m paying (through the nose) for a service, it shouldn’t be double-fucking me by selling predictive measures of who I am and what I care about to filthy fucking “advertisers” (for-profit behavior manipulators).

YouTube (like every last piece of Web 2.0) was fun while it lasted. But it is now barely better than worthless.

Goodtoknow ,
@Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca avatar

AFAIK you can use the Brave browser on iOS to listen to background youtube with it’s built in AdBlock

SuperSpruce ,

+1 to the last part.

I hate that you can be perpetually paying a company, but you also are still the product. I’m pretty sure it’s like this with just about every subscription.

Bloodyhog ,

For clarity: Google is THE for-profit behaviour manipulator selling the manipulation to whoever is having the budget for it. YT, search and all the other products are there to enable that manipulation. No more, no less.

Lettuceeatlettuce , (edited )
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

I cannot imagine paying anything for YT Premium, let alone $14 lol.

duffman ,

If you watch a decent amount of youtube, remove ads is worth it imo. Maybe not $14 a month worth it, but I can’t fucking stand ads.

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Ad block…Ad block…Ad block… It’s like paying for porn… why would anybody ever do that?

macintosh ,

I do most of my watching on mobile and it’s not worth it to me to do the crazy workaround to not use the official app.

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Firefox mobile, UBlock origin addon. Takes 30 seconds. Or Newpipe app on mobile.

macintosh ,

I don’t use an android.

docious ,

lemmy.world/comment/1545717

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Several options on iOS too.

Thewheeeeeeeeeel ,

Why? It gives the creators more money than watching ads and you get no ads on Smart TVs etc.

I mean yes you can watch youtube with vanced, Sponsorblock etc pretty much without ads everywhere, but because I hate ads and did that I like supporting the channels without having to manage a ton of little donations

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

I hate corpos, so I do what I can to not support them. The creators that I watch I donate directly to or purchase their merch/products. That supports them far more than the fractions of a cent that me watching ads or paying for a premium service gives them.

Discoslugs ,
@Discoslugs@lemmy.world avatar

The monthly savings from boycotting youtube continue to rise.

feedum_sneedson ,

Imagine paying that, damn.

wholeofthemoon ,

Could be $20 I don’t really care when I get music included. Yet you people are paying similar price for one music service aka Spotify lol

feedum_sneedson ,

What do you mean “you people”?

NukeminHerttua ,
@NukeminHerttua@sopuli.xyz avatar

Just stated using Revanced Extended YouTube. One of the best apps there is. Makes everything so much more convenient and with zero cost.

M1k3y ,
@M1k3y@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Just so that everyone knows:

Dont download patched apks from the internet. Instead, install the patcher from github and a vanilla youtube APK to patch it yourself.

There are no official sites providing revanced APKs and the unofficial sited may contain unwanted software.

NukeminHerttua ,
@NukeminHerttua@sopuli.xyz avatar

Good point!

FeelzGoodMan420 , (edited )

Youtube premium is pretty pointless when ublock origin exists.

Edit: sorry should have clarified. I meant in terms of blocking ads. I realize that you still can’t play youtube videos and switch apps.

okamiueru ,

Paying for a service you enjoy is surely not pointless?

BeezKnuts ,
@BeezKnuts@lemmy.world avatar

It is when a free alternative which offers more features and is easier to set up exists.

okamiueru ,

There are definitely better front-end alternatives to YouTube. But… they contribute nothing to the people who make the content that you want to use those front-ends for. I pay for YouTube premium, but I still sometimes use other methods for consuming it. So, take this for what it’s worth: by all means, use the free alternatives, etc. But the whole “don’t pay for it if it is free” is shortsighted.

frippa ,
@frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

I enjoy breathing air, I would not pay for it, why should I pay for YouTube w/o ads when a free alternative (ublock origin + sponsorblock + misc. extentions) exist and it’s better? (not regionlocked for example, another big one is that it’s… Free)

okamiueru ,

It’s not really an accurate analogy, nor is this concept complicated enough to warrant one. Content creators (air makers?) need to sustain themselves with the revenue their work grants them. People who circumvent this like you, add to the running cost of YouTube but contribute nothing in return. I personally despise advertisement of all forms, so I understand your motivation to do so. I would even encourage it if you have no other means. But, to justify it in the way you do seems intellectually and/or morally dishonest.

HalfJack ,

Does this work on mobile? I only pay for premium to get rid of ads and to allow the video to keep playing when I use other apps.

Bigmouse ,

If you have android, you might wanna check out ReVanced. I cant imagine youtube without it

DirigibleMarsupial ,

You can block the YouTube ads in Firefox for Android by using the free uBlock Origin add-on.

Or if you want to block even more annoying things, like sponsored segments / paid promotions or even off-topic sections (using highly customisable options) and also add additional features, like being able to play the audio while the screen is off and playing YouTube in a mini window, you can get the free Android app YouTube ReVanced.

sebinspace ,

I use it to listen to things while I drive without having to listen to ads or keep my phone’s screen on. The music is a bonus, but I do quite miss Google Play Music

Gestrid ,

I meant in terms of blocking ads. I realize that you still can’t play youtube videos and switch apps.

Yeah, good thing ReVanced gives us that instead.

sheilzy ,

I realize that you still can’t play youtube videos and switch apps

You can do that with ReVanced though!

JshKlsn ,
@JshKlsn@lemmy.ml avatar

Nah.

I can use YouTube on any of my devices on any network and don’t worry about ever seeing an ad. It’s nice.

Sure, you can use revanced, pi hole, ublock origin, etc, but whenever they break, or have short down times where ads sneak in until the filters get updates, it’s just not worth the effort.

dingus ,

I’ve rarely ever had issues with adblockers. Install one and it works totally fine for multiple years until you might need to install a new adblocker.

JshKlsn ,
@JshKlsn@lemmy.ml avatar

And when you need to block ads on a friends phone? roku tv? android tv? apple tv? iphone or ipad? android phone or tablet?

Sure, pi hole can work, until you leave the house. Some phones can be rooted to use an adblocker, but that’s not practical for everyone. You can use DNS blocking, but that means all of your traffic is tunneled through a random DNS you can hopefully trust.

It’s just a lot. It’s possible, but you really need to manage it and keep it working. When a solution is killed, you gotta find a new solution.

It’s just easier to pay for the family plan. Keeps everything working, and my family isn’t hitting me up for tech support every other day because they broke something.

If you only watch on your PC, or you only watch at home, adblock or pi hole is great. Set it and forget it. I watch YouTube on plenty of devices across plenty of networks and don’t want to deal with it.

Phat_Albert ,

I have YouTube premium and totally agree with you.

One workaround though, although it’s a bit of a pain,is that you can VPN into your home network and have the benefits of pihole when on mobile or using an iPad.

dingus ,

And when you need to block ads on a friends phone? roku tv? android tv? apple tv? iphone or ipad? android phone or tablet?

I’m not understanding why I would want to try to block ads on a friend’s phone unless they asked me how to get rid of them. But for the other stuff, it’s super easy.

On a PC: Install any random adblocker your browser allows. Most browsers have an addon or extension store that you can go it with only a few clicks and install one quickly and hassle free. Once you install it, there is no setup required and no maintenance or fiddling required.

On Android phones: Install YouTube Revanced. It’s an app. You have to download and install I believe two apps. You don’t have to root your phone or do anything special at all. Just download and install and forget about it for the next several years.

On Android based Smart TVs (Chromecast, Fire Stick, etc.): Install SmartTube. It’s as easy as downloading and installing a single app. You don’t have to root your device. It’s incredibly simple and no more complicated than downloading almost any other random app. There is no complicated setup, configuration, or maintenance. Just download and install and forget about it for the next several years.

So there you go. It’s not complex at all. A non root installation of two to three simple apps (plus an adblocker that you should have on your browser anyway) has all of my devices set for literally anywhere on the planet I can go. You’re really exaggerating how complicated it is and how often you need to install a new app or how often it breaks (maybe once every 5 or so years you install a different easy to install and use app).

I will admit, iOS stuff is a little trickier. I don’t personally own any iOS devices, but I think it does make it a bit more complex to install adblocking apps on them. So I suppose if you only have iOS devices I could see why you choose to skip this stuff. It’s doable, just more involved. On Android, you literally download, install, and just go and are totally set for multiple years.

Sure, pi hole can work, until you leave the house. Some phones can be rooted to use an adblocker, but that’s not practical for everyone. You can use DNS blocking, but that means all of your traffic is tunneled through a random DNS you can hopefully trust.

I have heard of pihole, but I don’t believe it’s a common solution. This part I agree with you…it’s overly complex and you need a lot of tech knowledge to set something like that up and maintain it. Couple that with the downside of it literally only working at home and I don’t really understand why people go this route.

It’s just a lot. It’s possible, but you really need to manage it and keep it working. When a solution is killed, you gotta find a new solution.

You really, really don’t need to constantly manage all of this stuff to keep it working. And it’s really not complex at all. It’s as easy as downloading and installing one or two apps or installing one adblocker extension to your browser. Then you forget about it. There is zero maintenance involved. Maybe once every 5 years you might have to install a different app, but there is no advanced skills needed and there is no maintenance needed. Things do not constantly break and need maintenance. I don’t do any maintenance and nothing just randomly kills itself.

YouTube aside, I have no idea how anyone can find browsing the internet at all tolerable without an adblocker extension on their browser. Are you not inundated with ads on every site that is not YouTube? Do you just deal with intrusive ads everywhere else?

FeelzGoodMan420 ,

I literally haven’t ever had ublock origin or pihole fail on me but whatever.

jungekatz ,

Are there any alternatives for ios ? I already use revanced on my android

TheDark ,
@TheDark@lemmy.world avatar

Adblocker on pc, IMHO the ads on my phone aren’t that bad.

idolofdust ,

uYou+ sideloaded through AltStore/SideStore

Crewmator ,

“Yattee” is a Youtube client with piped proxy support

beardsley ,
@beardsley@midwest.social avatar

Thankfully the price of my YT free account is still only the cost of everything I’ve ever written in email or a web browser so all good 👍

Locrin ,

I only had the lite version of premium so I could watch youtube adfree on my phone and tv, but then they started pushing shorts so hard I had to scroll past them to see my subscriptions so I cancelled. Using adblock in desktop browser now so I can block the shorts shelf.

tryptaminev ,

PSA: you can watch youtube on firefox mobile with ublock and even an extension so the video keeps playing without the screen on.

MrSilkworm ,
@MrSilkworm@lemmy.world avatar

which add on is the last one?

tryptaminev ,

addons.mozilla.org/…/video-background-play-fix/

MrSilkworm ,
@MrSilkworm@lemmy.world avatar

thank you!

Locrin ,

Yeah, thanks. On iPhone tho and it seems a bit more restricted there.

jungekatz ,

Android tv has mysmarttube , adfree youtube

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