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feedum_sneedson ,

Imagine paying that, damn.

wholeofthemoon ,

Could be $20 I don’t really care when I get music included. Yet you people are paying similar price for one music service aka Spotify lol

feedum_sneedson ,

What do you mean “you people”?

croix ,

Who tf is actually paying for YouTube premium?!

x3n0s ,

I do since YouTube music is included and dislike Spotify UI.

Emi621 ,

What about YouTube Revanced?

x3n0s ,

I really only care about the music subscription.

Emi621 ,

Revanced is also for YouTube music

Samuel255 ,

I do as well. It includes YouTube kids and I get music.

kworpy ,

Have any of you heard of an adblocker?

vita_man ,
@vita_man@lemmy.world avatar

I do. I watch a lot of YouTube videos, I hate ads and use YouTube music as my primary source of music.

TheQuantumPhysicist ,

It’s all about the economics. Is your time more valuable than that wasted by the ads?

If you’re watching YouTube 10 minutes a day, then it doesn’t make sense for you. Cost/benefit analysis should be done.

moreeni ,

You can just use an adblocker and/or a custom front end

Zappy ,

Eh it’s not that much if you use YouTube Music, and unlike Adblock creators get paid.

moreeni ,

I’d rather give creators one time donations, tbh. $5 most likely would cover everything, creators gain very little from ads per viewer/listener

And009 ,

I was forced to subscribe because iPad doesn’t support any kind of adblock…

youhavechosenwisely ,

Restrictive corporate environments who do not allow for custom software installation. I pay for it but with the VPN trick. I am on vanced and sponsor block as soon as I leave the work place. Sucks but that is one of the use cases.

stappern ,

imagine giving money to google

Duxon ,

For a good service. God forbids!

stappern ,

i can get the same and more for free without funding a literal demon :)

azalty ,
@azalty@jlai.lu avatar

I don’t get the hate on google, yea sure they use your data and all, but most of their services are free and work really good

People pay for spotify and all, while YT hosts tons of videos which need a lot of space + bandwith, and doesn’t really block ad-blockers

aggelalex ,

At this point subscribing to YouTube is just one of the dumbest decisions you can make.

SamXavia ,
@SamXavia@kbin.social avatar

@aggelalex As a person using YouTube Premium due to my family not understanding how to remove YouTube Ads from there devices, Yes yes it is.

Pat ,

I pay for YouTube premium family as much as I hate doing it, mainly because of my step daughter. It's not easy to block YouTube ads on Roku, and my wife and I weren't a fan of the ads they would be showing before videos we would put on. She travels to her dad's place often so I have the family plan so no matter where she is she won't have to deal with ads.

Rather not be raising a child messed up by advertisements telling her what to think. When she gets a bit older and can understand what advertisements are I'll finally cancel, but she's very young and impressionable.

beardsley ,
@beardsley@midwest.social avatar

Thankfully the price of my YT free account is still only the cost of everything I’ve ever written in email or a web browser so all good 👍

Lettuceeatlettuce , (edited )
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

I cannot imagine paying anything for YT Premium, let alone $14 lol.

duffman ,

If you watch a decent amount of youtube, remove ads is worth it imo. Maybe not $14 a month worth it, but I can’t fucking stand ads.

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Ad block…Ad block…Ad block… It’s like paying for porn… why would anybody ever do that?

macintosh ,

I do most of my watching on mobile and it’s not worth it to me to do the crazy workaround to not use the official app.

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Firefox mobile, UBlock origin addon. Takes 30 seconds. Or Newpipe app on mobile.

macintosh ,

I don’t use an android.

docious ,

lemmy.world/comment/1545717

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Several options on iOS too.

Thewheeeeeeeeeel ,

Why? It gives the creators more money than watching ads and you get no ads on Smart TVs etc.

I mean yes you can watch youtube with vanced, Sponsorblock etc pretty much without ads everywhere, but because I hate ads and did that I like supporting the channels without having to manage a ton of little donations

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

I hate corpos, so I do what I can to not support them. The creators that I watch I donate directly to or purchase their merch/products. That supports them far more than the fractions of a cent that me watching ads or paying for a premium service gives them.

InternetTubes ,

YouTube Premium is that one streaming service I’ve never been attracted to. It surprises me people pay for it.The funny thing is most of my normal adblockers deal with YouTube’s ads even though they are not the reason I installed them.

NuPNuA ,

I got three months free and realised YT music was included and had everything I listen to on Spotify anyway so I cancelled Spotify and moved over, essentially I’m only paying about two quid a month to remove ads on YT which seems fair enough.

minorsecond ,

I used a VPN to sign up and pay like $2.50 US per month for it. That’s worth it for no ads to me.

adibis ,

The issue is, people are getting notices from Google for using ad blocker. Three strikes and you’re not allowed to watch videos on that account anymore.

Kilamaos ,

I don’t have to bother with ads on desktop, TV, phone, nor on my gf’s devices. I don’t have to find work around, use sideloaded apps or whatever. And youtube is by far and wide my most watched platform, has been for years.

It also includes youtube music, which has been my exclusive music platforms, either to play during work, household chores, on my phone or on my Google home, or in the car.

To me, it’s not even a question if it’s worth it. If anything, it’s my Netflix, crunchyroll, hidive subs that I should drop. They are replaced way more easily

Shrek ,

I get that. It’s the only subscription that I pay for. But, I don’t really watch TV/movies/sports. Every night, when I lay in bed the first thing I do is open YouTube on my TV. Everyone has a preference.

Eerie187 ,

I would never pay google for anything. They’re making enough money taking all your data and selling it. I will always use an ad blocker with sponsor block and donate to any content creator that provides good content for me.

Rubezahl ,

So sad there are no free alternatives such as NewPipe that do exactly the same thing.

Usernameblankface ,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

Does Newpipe have YouTube videos? Is it an entirely separate video sharing site?

JustEnoughDucks ,
@JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl avatar

Nope, it is sn app that can play videos from youtube, peertube, and z few others. You don’t log in to youtube, but you can create subscription lists and playlists and everything. Only the youtube algorithm doesn’t work on you.

Usernameblankface ,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

Same content plus more content and ad free? Sign me up!

I mean that I’m going to go download that immediately.

Thanks!

Usernameblankface ,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

Ok, there are 4 different apps in the Google app store by that name.

Rubezahl ,

It’s not in the store. NewPipe.net and install the APK file.

Usernameblankface ,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

Ok thank you.

Usernameblankface , (edited )
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

Ok, I went to the website, downloaded the app from there. Samsung and or Android warned me about it, but I went ahead. Seems to be legit, it just takes forever to load anything. Feeds, thumbnails, starting a video all take a long time.

My one guess is that 1.1.1.1 is interfering?

Edit: yes, that was it. I allowed Newpipe to bypass 1.1.1.1 DNS and it’s loading just as fast as YouTube itself now. Should have tried that before posting here.

JustEnoughDucks ,
@JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl avatar

Use Fdroid, aurora store, etc… Google play is just full of dangerous scam apps

Riusaki ,

YouTube Revanced ftw. Firefox with uBlock Origin ftw too.

Goodtoknow ,
@Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca avatar

I noticed ads slipping through Ublock Today D:

Space_Jamke ,

The one on the upper right-hand corner of the recommended watch sidebar always manages to sneak past my multiple adblockers. I’m tired of having my eyes seared by massive anime tiddies (Queen’s Blade ads) just because I sometimes watch anime and the monkeys working in the algorithm machine greenlit softcore pornography to be plastered all over their platform. But I sure as shit ain’t paying them $170 a year to get those idiots to stop.

FeelzGoodMan420 , (edited )

Youtube premium is pretty pointless when ublock origin exists.

Edit: sorry should have clarified. I meant in terms of blocking ads. I realize that you still can’t play youtube videos and switch apps.

okamiueru ,

Paying for a service you enjoy is surely not pointless?

BeezKnuts ,
@BeezKnuts@lemmy.world avatar

It is when a free alternative which offers more features and is easier to set up exists.

okamiueru ,

There are definitely better front-end alternatives to YouTube. But… they contribute nothing to the people who make the content that you want to use those front-ends for. I pay for YouTube premium, but I still sometimes use other methods for consuming it. So, take this for what it’s worth: by all means, use the free alternatives, etc. But the whole “don’t pay for it if it is free” is shortsighted.

frippa ,
@frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

I enjoy breathing air, I would not pay for it, why should I pay for YouTube w/o ads when a free alternative (ublock origin + sponsorblock + misc. extentions) exist and it’s better? (not regionlocked for example, another big one is that it’s… Free)

okamiueru ,

It’s not really an accurate analogy, nor is this concept complicated enough to warrant one. Content creators (air makers?) need to sustain themselves with the revenue their work grants them. People who circumvent this like you, add to the running cost of YouTube but contribute nothing in return. I personally despise advertisement of all forms, so I understand your motivation to do so. I would even encourage it if you have no other means. But, to justify it in the way you do seems intellectually and/or morally dishonest.

HalfJack ,

Does this work on mobile? I only pay for premium to get rid of ads and to allow the video to keep playing when I use other apps.

Bigmouse ,

If you have android, you might wanna check out ReVanced. I cant imagine youtube without it

DirigibleMarsupial ,

You can block the YouTube ads in Firefox for Android by using the free uBlock Origin add-on.

Or if you want to block even more annoying things, like sponsored segments / paid promotions or even off-topic sections (using highly customisable options) and also add additional features, like being able to play the audio while the screen is off and playing YouTube in a mini window, you can get the free Android app YouTube ReVanced.

sebinspace ,

I use it to listen to things while I drive without having to listen to ads or keep my phone’s screen on. The music is a bonus, but I do quite miss Google Play Music

Gestrid ,

I meant in terms of blocking ads. I realize that you still can’t play youtube videos and switch apps.

Yeah, good thing ReVanced gives us that instead.

sheilzy ,

I realize that you still can’t play youtube videos and switch apps

You can do that with ReVanced though!

JshKlsn ,
@JshKlsn@lemmy.ml avatar

Nah.

I can use YouTube on any of my devices on any network and don’t worry about ever seeing an ad. It’s nice.

Sure, you can use revanced, pi hole, ublock origin, etc, but whenever they break, or have short down times where ads sneak in until the filters get updates, it’s just not worth the effort.

dingus ,

I’ve rarely ever had issues with adblockers. Install one and it works totally fine for multiple years until you might need to install a new adblocker.

JshKlsn ,
@JshKlsn@lemmy.ml avatar

And when you need to block ads on a friends phone? roku tv? android tv? apple tv? iphone or ipad? android phone or tablet?

Sure, pi hole can work, until you leave the house. Some phones can be rooted to use an adblocker, but that’s not practical for everyone. You can use DNS blocking, but that means all of your traffic is tunneled through a random DNS you can hopefully trust.

It’s just a lot. It’s possible, but you really need to manage it and keep it working. When a solution is killed, you gotta find a new solution.

It’s just easier to pay for the family plan. Keeps everything working, and my family isn’t hitting me up for tech support every other day because they broke something.

If you only watch on your PC, or you only watch at home, adblock or pi hole is great. Set it and forget it. I watch YouTube on plenty of devices across plenty of networks and don’t want to deal with it.

Phat_Albert ,

I have YouTube premium and totally agree with you.

One workaround though, although it’s a bit of a pain,is that you can VPN into your home network and have the benefits of pihole when on mobile or using an iPad.

dingus ,

And when you need to block ads on a friends phone? roku tv? android tv? apple tv? iphone or ipad? android phone or tablet?

I’m not understanding why I would want to try to block ads on a friend’s phone unless they asked me how to get rid of them. But for the other stuff, it’s super easy.

On a PC: Install any random adblocker your browser allows. Most browsers have an addon or extension store that you can go it with only a few clicks and install one quickly and hassle free. Once you install it, there is no setup required and no maintenance or fiddling required.

On Android phones: Install YouTube Revanced. It’s an app. You have to download and install I believe two apps. You don’t have to root your phone or do anything special at all. Just download and install and forget about it for the next several years.

On Android based Smart TVs (Chromecast, Fire Stick, etc.): Install SmartTube. It’s as easy as downloading and installing a single app. You don’t have to root your device. It’s incredibly simple and no more complicated than downloading almost any other random app. There is no complicated setup, configuration, or maintenance. Just download and install and forget about it for the next several years.

So there you go. It’s not complex at all. A non root installation of two to three simple apps (plus an adblocker that you should have on your browser anyway) has all of my devices set for literally anywhere on the planet I can go. You’re really exaggerating how complicated it is and how often you need to install a new app or how often it breaks (maybe once every 5 or so years you install a different easy to install and use app).

I will admit, iOS stuff is a little trickier. I don’t personally own any iOS devices, but I think it does make it a bit more complex to install adblocking apps on them. So I suppose if you only have iOS devices I could see why you choose to skip this stuff. It’s doable, just more involved. On Android, you literally download, install, and just go and are totally set for multiple years.

Sure, pi hole can work, until you leave the house. Some phones can be rooted to use an adblocker, but that’s not practical for everyone. You can use DNS blocking, but that means all of your traffic is tunneled through a random DNS you can hopefully trust.

I have heard of pihole, but I don’t believe it’s a common solution. This part I agree with you…it’s overly complex and you need a lot of tech knowledge to set something like that up and maintain it. Couple that with the downside of it literally only working at home and I don’t really understand why people go this route.

It’s just a lot. It’s possible, but you really need to manage it and keep it working. When a solution is killed, you gotta find a new solution.

You really, really don’t need to constantly manage all of this stuff to keep it working. And it’s really not complex at all. It’s as easy as downloading and installing one or two apps or installing one adblocker extension to your browser. Then you forget about it. There is zero maintenance involved. Maybe once every 5 years you might have to install a different app, but there is no advanced skills needed and there is no maintenance needed. Things do not constantly break and need maintenance. I don’t do any maintenance and nothing just randomly kills itself.

YouTube aside, I have no idea how anyone can find browsing the internet at all tolerable without an adblocker extension on their browser. Are you not inundated with ads on every site that is not YouTube? Do you just deal with intrusive ads everywhere else?

FeelzGoodMan420 ,

I literally haven’t ever had ublock origin or pihole fail on me but whatever.

uollano ,

Well, I guess I bought the yearly sub in Turkish liras just in time (about $20/year)

iamhangry ,

Exactly. 14 a month is better to just download Adblock and work on the alternatives. 20 a year, considering the amount of youtube and youtube music I use is a great deal.

VioletteRei ,
@VioletteRei@lemmy.world avatar

How do you do that? Would like to do it too

uollano ,

You just need a VPN and a virtual credit card that allows for currency conversion (so you’re effectively paying in the target currency). I did this a couple of months ago, so I cannot guarantee this still works

andyster ,

I feel like this is the best money in streaming. I mostly watch you tube, and primarily on the tv and phone in the app. Frankly I would prefer to have much more of the internet paid for with you know money instead of ads and not use a blocker.

You tube music also has a much better algorithmic playlist than Apple Music.

zefiax ,

I agree completely but you won’t get much support on this site as people don’t think about how things can cost money to run.

andyster ,

Which is weird considering how the fediverse is paid for at the moment appears to mostly be people paying out of their own pockets.

zefiax ,

That’s great for now. Scale that up to billions of videos and that won’t be sustainable. Video hosting, especially at the scale that youtube does it, is incredibly expensive.

skellener ,
@skellener@kbin.social avatar

Enshittification continues…

Discoslugs ,
@Discoslugs@lemmy.world avatar

The monthly savings from boycotting youtube continue to rise.

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