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MrSilkworm ,
@MrSilkworm@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder why would someone raise the price of product no one buys

bezerker03 ,

I pay for YouTube music (formerly google play music). It includes this lol.

gendulf ,

My wife and I have unlimited data plans, and we listen to all our music on YouTube. Without a sub, you can’t turn the screen off. Ads are also not an issue on mobile/the TV when you have a sub.

MrSilkworm ,
@MrSilkworm@lemmy.world avatar

have you thought of trying YouTube through Firefox with add-ons or maybe Revanced (if you’re in Android)? I’m sure that this will solve the screen off issue without the need for a subscription

Pinto23 ,

I pay 12.99 and that was my max :( Gonna be hard pressed to cancel the subscription. Guess I’m going to learn how to use those workarounds and just save the 12.99. Well now 13.99 starting in September

Arthur_Leywin ,

Extensions I’d recommend: uBlock Origin, Improve YouTube, PocketTube, SponsorBlock for YouTube, BlockTube, Return Dislike to YouTube, YouTube Shorts-block.

Wildf1re ,

I pay in Turkish lira, now it’s pennies per month. Cancel, then VPN to turkey. Head to YouTube,log in, purchase and hey presto, cheap as. I buy with a resolute account.

azalty ,
@azalty@jlai.lu avatar

I prefer not supporting the Turkish economy

jungekatz ,

Well if u primarily use android and a desktop u have better options than actual premium ! I mean sponsorblock and getting dislikes back are awesome too !

Smex ,

My adblockers are holding steady with a 0% rise! I still ain’t paying!

stappern ,

imagine giving money to google

Duxon ,

For a good service. God forbids!

stappern ,

i can get the same and more for free without funding a literal demon :)

azalty ,
@azalty@jlai.lu avatar

I don’t get the hate on google, yea sure they use your data and all, but most of their services are free and work really good

People pay for spotify and all, while YT hosts tons of videos which need a lot of space + bandwith, and doesn’t really block ad-blockers

Locrin ,

I only had the lite version of premium so I could watch youtube adfree on my phone and tv, but then they started pushing shorts so hard I had to scroll past them to see my subscriptions so I cancelled. Using adblock in desktop browser now so I can block the shorts shelf.

tryptaminev ,

PSA: you can watch youtube on firefox mobile with ublock and even an extension so the video keeps playing without the screen on.

MrSilkworm ,
@MrSilkworm@lemmy.world avatar

which add on is the last one?

tryptaminev ,

addons.mozilla.org/…/video-background-play-fix/

MrSilkworm ,
@MrSilkworm@lemmy.world avatar

thank you!

Locrin ,

Yeah, thanks. On iPhone tho and it seems a bit more restricted there.

jungekatz ,

Android tv has mysmarttube , adfree youtube

problematicPanther ,
@problematicPanther@lemmy.world avatar

Holy greed!

MrScottyTay ,

I never understand the practice of increasing prices to stuff like this when you have less income, because all it does is drive away current and potential customers.

It’s like with cinemas, if you reduce the ticket price enough you’ll easily fill up screens. If they want more money from YouTube premium they should reduce the price to increase membership to cover the cost and then some for what you reduced it by.

It’s not rocket science.

schrodingers_dinger ,

I’ve always wondered if subscriptions would balloon if they just charged like $2 per month. But I think they set the price where it is so it can be competitive vs potential ad revenue (which they are amping up like crazy)

Koordinator_O ,
@Koordinator_O@lemmy.world avatar

with this price change they still make more money if they loose less than ~14.3% of their users. i think that’s actually plausible. never underestimate the laziness of people to change something they have become accustomed to.

azalty ,
@azalty@jlai.lu avatar

idk if it’s laziness, people just get used to the service

But I don’t get why they want to do that, I feel like no-one uses YT Premium and they should reduce the price instead to get more users

lenninscjay ,

I use YT prem. Use a ton of YT for the kids and I like that my YT prem helps the content creaters I sub to. Though, if they had a patron or something they’d probably get a cut.

This price raise sucks, bc now I will probably cancel. It’s not worth that much.

MrScottyTay ,

I feel like they could gain way more with a cheaper price though, and then they can be less shackled by ad agencies too that seem to be able to dictate a lot of YouTube policies at the moment

krakenx ,

Similar to rocket science, there are mathematical formulas you can use to analyze how many buyers there will be for a product at a given price point. Clearly Google did the math and found that this was the optimal amount to raise the price to without losing too many subscribers and that it would result in an increase in overall profit.

TheChancePants ,

Anybody on this thread on iOS, check out Vinegar. It’s a Safari extension for YouTube that converts the YT media player to a generic iOS one, removing ads and allowing PiP and other stuff. Best 2-ish bucks I’ve ever spent.

jungekatz ,

Omg i cant thank you enough !!

ghariksforge ,

People actually pay for this crap?

schrodingers_dinger ,

I quite enjoy YouTube premium. I was an avid Adblock/YouTube Vanced user before, but now that I am a little older and make more money, I realized it’s worth it to me to get premium. I don’t pay for any other streaming services, and YouTube is what I watch the most so I figured why not support it.

It makes me feel better knowing my money gets distributed to creators as well through YouTube. That did not happen before as I always blocked ads. Plus I don’t need Spotify if I want to stream music because I have YouTube music. And YouTube music actually seems to have more of the music I like anyways, plus I already liked finding music through YouTube channels anyways.

I’m not advocating that everyone should buy YouTube premium, I’m just saying that it can have its merits for some people.

odbol ,

I got it bundled with my YouTube Music subscription. Definitely worth it, especially considering you’d pay the same amount for Spotify and not get any videos

azalty ,
@azalty@jlai.lu avatar

can’t YT Music be bought separately for a bit cheaper?

brey1013 ,

You like watching ads?

ghariksforge ,

ublock origin stops youtube ads

azalty ,
@azalty@jlai.lu avatar

yea, it also lowers creators’ revenues

YT should really make a user-centric revenue system if that’s not already the case, or advertise more and be more transparent about it, it might get people to change their mind

I started whitelisting some YT channels to give ad revenue to them, but since I didn’t know if they did get money or not, I stopped.

99nights ,

Well yeah, I have a family subscription and I don’t need to pay for another music subscription like Spotify etc. YT music has come a long way since it’s release (i’ve been with it aince the start) and it’s great now. I like that you can watch the music video version too.

zanyllama52 ,
@zanyllama52@infosec.pub avatar

Isn’t it interesting to consider what it must be like? I cannot imagine any scenario where I would pay for this.

bezerker03 ,

We pay for yt music and it gives us this lol

mycroft ,

If google adjusts creators revenue by 1/3 I’ll pay that.

SuperSpruce ,

Gotta be in the right direction for creators though. If they cut 1/3 of creators revenue I’ll never consider premium again.

azalty ,
@azalty@jlai.lu avatar

“We must adjust YT Premium’s price to get more users”

“I’m on it boss!” Price increase.

CoolBeance ,
@CoolBeance@lemmy.world avatar

Pro tip: Buy the family plan in Asia. It’s like $5 a month here for 5 people

dustojnikhummer ,

Only disadvantage is unusable Youtube Music.

gulasch_hanuta ,

How so? Bought it via Turkey for cheap, yt music kinda looks the same.

dustojnikhummer ,

I bought the Indian one, and my Youtube Music is full of Indian crap I can’t remove because… regions I guess.

MaxPower ,
@MaxPower@feddit.de avatar

Oh I thought about subscribing for a couple of months, then again I have cancelled Netflix because money is tight. Now I have another reason not to subscribe to YT Premium.

Thanks, Google!

azalty ,
@azalty@jlai.lu avatar

If you had to cancel your Netflix sub, you probably wouldn’t have paid for YT Premium, it’s a lot less worth it than Netflix imo

Jimbo ,
@Jimbo@yiffit.net avatar

Good job YouTube, I was considering picking up your subscription but now nooope, expensive enough in NZD as it is

Ieatcrayons ,

Everything is expensive in NZD right now. The boss may as well pay me in yen

focusedkiwibear ,

lol oh no, they lost a ‘potential’ sale from someone who probably was never going to spend anyway. if ya were, you would have done it already.

DAC_Protogen ,
@DAC_Protogen@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly… YouTube Premium is just wasted money. It’s a difficult situation. You can watch YouTube for free and without ads already, by simply using a decent browser like Firefox and installing the uBlock Origin addon to block the ads. (Google is fighting adblockers and anything based on Chrome, so 90% of browsers out there will limit their functionality in the future, btw. Use Firefox or something based on it to keep at least a bit of your privacy and freedom of choice.) And you can even automatically skip the sponsorship messages in videos with Sponsorblock. But if you think you would support the content creators with YouTube Premium, think again. You’re mostly paying Google for their servers / platform. A platform that treats its content creators pretty bad, finds all kinds of ways to not pay them / reasons to demonetize their videos to grab 100% of the ad income and has become more and more privacy invasive and aggressive with ads over the years towards its users. And in terms of music, YouTube doesn’t license every single song individually from the musician. They just pay a royalty towards huge labels and companies like Sony, which in turn keep the absolutely most part of that for themselves instead of paying the artists. Yes, by watching videos for free with adblockers, content creators and YouTube aren’t being paid and in a way you are part of a problem. But consider this: Any subscription based content service like Spotify, Apple Music and YouTube Premium starts by paying its content creators at least a bit of money, but uses bait & switch tactics to lower that payment per stream more and more over time. Once they have all the creators, music / content and viewers comfortably on board, they start grabbing the money for themselves. It’s a systemic issue with streaming platforms in general and always the short end of the stick for the very people who create the content that makes the platform successful and useful in the first place. And if you feel guilty for cutting off the often self-proclaimed “content creators”… YouTube has mechanisms in place to directly support them (while taking a cut for YouTube), like “super chats” and “super stickers” and most of them these days have a Patreon account for direct monetary support and sponsorships going on. But yes, only those content creators who actually offer quality content will benefit from these things, what about all the others, you may ask. Well, let’s be brutally honest. A whole lot of content offered on YouTube is bullshit. It’s either copying successful people’s video style, low-cost, low effort, low quality beginners stuff, clickbait, disinformation, mentally unhealthy nonsense, copyright infringing stuff, and these days even AI generated crap with no value. If all of that would stop being made because no money is to be made on the platform, we wouldn’t miss out on anything. True quality will always be supported directly by fans and sponsors. And as harsh as it sounds… the rest is obsolete and may fall victim to natural selection. Might even raise the quality of content on the platform overall. Feel free to pay for YouTube Premium, if it makes you feel better. But know that absolutely most of it will only benefit Google. Personally, I don’t have the money to pay like 130 bucks a year just to feel like a good person. And those aggressive ads are bad for mental health and sometimes are a vehicle for malware, aside from the technology behind them absolutely shredding your privacy. I’m having none of that. I’ll watch that stuff with adblockers as long as it works, and if that stops working some day, I’ll spend my time with something better, maybe going outside and touching grass or something.

Hamartiogonic ,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

Oh well, too late to join now. Thought about that subscription in the past, but now it’s clearly out of the question.

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