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corbin ,

I wrote about this a few months ago: www.spacebar.news/steam-time-bomb/

3volver ,

Gaben’s last dying wish is to make every game work on Linux and donates $1 billion to making it happen.

DmMacniel ,

So Gaben actually IS a dragon.

BackOnMyBS ,
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place avatar

dracarys 🔥🔥🔥

DmMacniel ,

I was thinking about Dunkelzahn and his testament.

rxbudian ,

Someone’s been gaming too much.

KillingTimeItself ,

gaben is a smart man, i doubt that he isn’t aware of his own mortality, and presumably has someone who he trusts, that he will appoint the position.

nomous ,

It would be beautiful if he just handed the keys over to a true believer when it’s time. Just a quality, stand up person who already has a pocket full of cash and just wants to help gamers get games and indie devs distribute them without squeezing every drop of profit they can at every step.

edit: it’d be even beautifuler if he turned it over to a trust managed by a panel of elected employee representatives

KillingTimeItself ,

i feel like there have to be at least three, from his (family? Does he have one? I believe he does, but can’t be bothered to check)

to someone in the company, perhaps there are numerous positions that exist solely to prevent this kind of hostile takeover from happening? Who knows!

Etterra ,

Making the company employee owned would be ideal.

Nindelofocho ,

Why not customer led like a co-op?

BackOnMyBS ,
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place avatar

So did Lenin, and look how that turned out.

KillingTimeItself ,

stalin lasted quite a bit, he was also insane, but it was really post stalin that shit kinda went fucky.

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s inevitable.

But if steam becomes enshittified I’ll move onto something else and use torrent sites to download the older games I care about that I’ve bought on steam. It wouldn’t really be pirating them, since I’ve bought them already.

For now steam is fine, and I appreciate the work they’ve done on supporting Linux, so I’ll keep on using it to buy games.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Sucks being old.

Is it just prejudice? Stereotype? Laziness?

You see this happen to everything. It all gets enshittified. These corps that started out for the end user all end up selling out for profits.

It’s not a secret, not a revelation, nothing new.

Goodie ,

I kind of hope gaben has set up something smart for his death. Eg Valve is owned by a trust.

okmko ,

Can’t Gabe do what John Bogle did with Vanguard and transfer ownership to the employees and clients?

NigelFrobisher ,

Obviously his death will trigger a worldwide AR Easter egg hunt, where the Steam user worthy enough to find the three keys first will become the new Gaben and Master Of Steam.

faceula ,

Must drive backwards…

InternetCitizen2 ,

Or talk to a girl!

cRazi_man ,

I cringe just remembering that movie.

interdimensionalmeme ,

I haven’t seen it, is it even worse than the book ?

Shelbyeileen ,
@Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world avatar

I looked at the movie as a fun romp that’s a bit inspired by the book and that makes it bearable. The movie took the nerdiness down in a way that was very unrealistic, but understandable to the general public. Anyone actually in the nerd community knows that people find shortcuts and glitches, and do speedrun records competitively; but they removed the entire part about the first key being in the school area (where it would be attainable by all for free) and instead make it “Oh, I was supposed to drive backwards in this race that I need a very expensive car/weapons for”

It’s a very pretty movie with a lot of fun Easter Eggs, but you’ve gotta separate and realize it wasn’t made for them to enjoy it.

MeDuViNoX ,
@MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works avatar

What movie/book?

neblem ,

Ready Player One

MeDuViNoX ,
@MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works avatar

Thanks

cRazi_man ,

I haven’t read the book. But the movie is indeed really terrible.

drunkpostdisaster ,

Let’s not get crazy

dumbass ,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

Fuck it, I’m out.

Alexstarfire ,

I think I have enough to worry about already without worrying about what ifs.

deadbeef79000 ,

This isn’t a what if, it’s a what when.

Alexstarfire ,

No, that’s an assumption. Probably correct. But if you can see into the future you should buy some lotto tickets or some stocks.

deadbeef79000 ,

Technically we’re assuming Gabe is mortal, yes.

Alexstarfire ,

Yes, that’s clearly the part I was referring to. 🙄

drunkpostdisaster ,

This is something we have more power to do something about.

Hazzard ,

For sure, valid to fear the enshittification of steam. But they aren’t killing proton. Maybe ignoring proton at worst. But Steam has profit motivations for not being reliant on Windows, which has actively been trying to supplant them with the Windows Store for years.

As another separate, profit-motivated company, with a gaming division and a lot to gain from eating Steam’s lunch, Microsoft is not Steam’s friend. Proton is a critical bargaining tool for them, and not having to include windows licenses for devices like the Steam Deck helps their costs too.

psivchaz ,

My fear is them going public or selling. If that happens, it’ll probably be Microsoft willing to spend any amount, and the government hasn’t really been in a “preventing monopolies” mood for a while now.

Zoot ,
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

You can take away peoples home, food, and rights… Just don’t you dare touch their entertainment for the plebs might get antsy…

Klear ,

And you can’t take the sky from me.

Ookami38 ,

Bread and circuses. They’re already giving us scraps.

Emmy ,

Wish they were serious about Linux support.

dudinax ,

Who’d have thought not actually owning the games you purchase was a bad idea?

rdri ,

Even if you buy them on gog you don’t own them. Download and keep - sure, but you could do that with many games on steam too (also you could download torrent versions which wouldn’t be different from buying on gog). The point is about actually keeping these copies alive, properly updated and working, for which these services exist.

So, I think owning a disc is also risky, that means your copy can degrade. Owning games in this context have lost its meaning for me.

dudinax ,

When you own the game you have the choice whether to back up the game and whether to keep a computer that can run it.

rdri ,

Both of those mean you have to own a physical thing. Store services are basically backups for cases when you stop owning a physical thing for a while.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Good news. Unreal Engine 4 is usable on Linux and works pretty well too.
Learn some C++, get some ppl and make good games.

Also, GoG means old games don’t die. (well at least the non DRM ones)

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

GoG does DRM free, and not just old games. Not many new AAA because convincing a big company to sell their game DRM free is hard, but Baldur’s Gate 3 is on there.

Kazumara ,

And of course the ones they (i.e. CD Projekt Red) make themselves. The Witcher series, including Gwent spinoffs, and Cyberpunk 2077

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

Yeah, and lots of new popular indie games. Some recent oneish I’ve got are DREDGE, Rimworld and Stardew Valley. OK not super recent but not all the games are 20 years old or more. Even Skyrim Anniversary is on there.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Yeah, I recently bought X4, which is so badly implemented (at least on Linux) that it gives the same FPS (in the 30s) on Low settings as it does on Ultra.

I even went ahead and bought a new GPU just for that and hardly see a difference, even being suspicious of there being a miner in it.

Fun game nonetheless.

Lets_Eat_Grandma ,

x series has largely been cpu limited by single main thread as long as it’s existed fwiw

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Wait, so all I had to do was disable my underclock and I would have gotten the same marginal perf gains that I got by upgrading both my CPU and GPU?

Will Egosoft hire me if I offer to refactor their code into something multithread friendly?

Lets_Eat_Grandma ,

I mean if you’re german you could try working for them lol

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

I mean if you’re german you could try working for them lol

That seems to be the main barrier, yeah.

But I checked htop while running the game and it doesn’t seem to be doing all single core stuff as you said. Unless it is that the bottlenecking thread is not even using the available core to the full extent.
I checked it out with both linux and linux-zen kernels.

Usually, when a program is loading on a single thread, you tend to see a single core go to 100% for a few seconds, which then jumps around as the OS switches the core provided to the thread. That was not happening here.
Also, the new GPU is sometimes at ~60-70% while the FPS is dropping to 30. This part was weird.

Lets_Eat_Grandma ,

All I know is what many have said time and time again. There is one main thread that everything else depends on, so no matter how much horsepower you throw at it you are constrained by whatever logic or calculation that one thread is doing.

For all I know it’s a memory bandwidth thing or even a disk access thing pertaining to that one thread which makes everything else wait. They use their own homegrown engine and there’s a bottleneck in the code somewhere, obviously.

I’m kind of surprised they don’t have something that’s more scalable because they built a new engine for X:Rebirth which came out in 2013. Maybe they started the engine rebuild before dual core and quad core cpus were mainstream in the late 2000s.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Well, when you make a multithreaded application, usually there is one main thread, which controls everything else, timings and all.

The alternativeis to have all threads know how to sync with whichever other thread they need to sync with, whenever they need to. This way tends to be more difficult (and I am yet to think of a use case and application methodology for this method).

Now usually you make sure not to have any blocking function (large calculation or file R/W requiring HDD fetching) on the main thread. Maybe they made some mistakes in this regard in their previous games and did better this time.

From what I see, it seems like they didn’t use the graphics API (seems to be Vulkan) properly enough, for which I can’t do anything, given my lack of exp with it. Perhaps a god time for me to delve into Vulkan.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

I’m waiting for BG3 to make a Linux thingy. Until then, it’'s on the “maybe” list.

If it’s not native on Linux, it needs to be exceptionally good for me to buy it, considering GoG doesn’t have regional pricing.

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

I’m playing BG3 on Linux on a laptop with integrated graphics, and I haven’t had any issues other than not being able to run it with graphics set to ultra (expected since there’s not graphics card).

ulterno , (edited )
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

How about “Customers in low income countries will pay the same full price for your game.” as a pitch.

Anti Commercial-AI license

TachyonTele ,

Having a hard time understanding what low income, sales price, and AI have to do with Valve.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar
  1. The license is for the content of the post. Here, I put a separator.
  2. Valve has regional pricing, making some games cost a tenth of the price in some regions. GoG does not, so you pay the US price.
  • e.g. I bought X4 for ~4x the price of Average AAA console games.
  • Though, in case of X4, it seems to have a similar price on Steam, most games tend to be cheaper with regional pricing.

And now I forgot to put a license on this one.

TachyonTele ,

Don’t use the dumb footer link. It doesn’t do anything other than make sure everyone else points and laughs. You’re better than that.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

What’s the problem with some laughter.

If there’s nothing to laugh at, people usually pick a loner, harass them until they are angry/miserable and then laugh at them.

I’d rather, they laugh at this, which might also throw a wrench in the works of companies trying to get data without sifting through it properly.

Anti Commercial-AI license

Wouldn’t it be even more fun if the AI chatbot got trained on this and started spewing out Anti Commercial-AI license in their results?

TachyonTele ,

which might also throw a wrench in the works of companies trying to get data without sifting through it properly.

Narrator: It has no effect at all.

Danterious ,

Its nice seeing more people using the license.

As a tip when I started doing this I started using a text expander so I didn’t have to copy and paste all the time.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/deed.en

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Well, KDE Clipboard seems to make it easy enough for me for now, but perhaps I will set a compose key for it if required.

My main problem tends to be forgetting to add it because I got too emersed in typing the comment.

And it’s kinda useless to add it after the fact, so most of the time, it works because I copy the license first.

CC BY-NC-SA

ILikeBoobies ,

Ue5 as well, not sure why you went back a version

joe_cool ,

Every game that I have seen that runs on UE5 either looks like a vaseline smeared blur or runs like crap.

Do you know one that runs great AND looks great? And I don’t mean in the trailer.

ILikeBoobies ,

I am not sure of the relevance, we are talking about the engine having a linux native version

joe_cool ,

Most engines can build on Linux. Even CryEngine. Maybe OP mentioned UE4 because it runs better than UE5.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Do you know one that runs great AND looks great

If you make one, then I’ll know one. ;)

verdigris ,

This is wildly not my experience. You can turn off motion blur in the vast majority of games… What’s your hardware?

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

I haven’t tried UE5

Also, they changed their licence midway, so a little unsure about it rn.

ILikeBoobies ,

The change doesn’t apply to games

The film industry previously was completely free, in versions 5.4 and above. It is now $1850 per seat for companies making over a million per year

proceduralnightshade ,

Yeah I do have a similar fear. Valve is something special. I tried to hate them, they’re filthy-rich corpos after all, but I can’t. Something of value will be lost when Valve finally succumbs to enshittification, which cannot be said of a lot of other big companies.

But my fear isn’t necessarily about Steam. I have like 20-30 games in my library. Steam is simply the least shit way to play games you have/want to pay for.

interdimensionalmeme ,

I love valve, I have 1000+ games in my library. I also have every crack for every game I could fine. For the rest, I have live virtual machine snapshot of the running game. Of course anythibg live service will not work without a server simulator. To do that we need to, for each games, using wireshark, record all server and peer traffic while also saving all privaye encryptions keys used in the session.

Once games start using TPM processor, they will become uncrackable. Make sure to use a compromised TPM in that case.

Imgonnatrythis ,

If you don’t expect enshitification these days you are dumb. Very rational fear

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