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21Cabbage ,

Pinkerton Consulting and Investigations Inc is a pretty good one too.

youRFate ,

I also like Alliant Techsystems, then merged with Orbital Sciences Corp into Orbital ATK.

They are part of NGIS (Northrop Grumman Innovation Systems), so evil things might come from there.

Apex_Fail ,

If DARPA was Lawful Evil

Amaltheamannen ,

Waiting for Sense/Net

nayminlwin ,

There’s also E Corp from Mr. Robot.

poudlardo ,
@poudlardo@jlai.lu avatar

That one was clealy google, not the other way around

vis4valentine ,
@vis4valentine@lemmy.ml avatar

Is more Tencent or Samsung that Google.

poudlardo ,
@poudlardo@jlai.lu avatar

Yeah but samsung in nowhere near Google’s influence in US and worldwide. But I agree these companies are HUGE in Asia.

vis4valentine ,
@vis4valentine@lemmy.ml avatar

Samsung is EVERYTHING in Korea. Not so much in the west beyond phones and smart tv’s, and Laundry machines or whatever, but in Korea, Samsung does EVERYTHING.

poudlardo ,
@poudlardo@jlai.lu avatar

Yes chaebol is a concept in itself

iturnedintoanewt ,
@iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee avatar

TVs, Phones, Washing Machines? Samsung! Cars, trucks? Also, Samsung! Heavy machine equipment, cranes, etc? Believe or not, also Samsung! The Chaebol that does it all!

nayminlwin ,

There was even a scandal involving cancer causing work environments with Samsung like in the show.

vis4valentine ,
@vis4valentine@lemmy.ml avatar

Oh shit

fsxylo ,

And the characters called it evil corp anyways so it might as well have been the name.

Tzig ,

Not exactly, most of the characters seem to call the company E Corp but the main character (who’s also the narrator) “corrects it” in his head.

hungryphrog ,

I’m still waiting for the cool neon signs.

z3rOR0ne ,

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/39499d59-23ac-42ab-ab14-959196116bdb.png

Hadriscus ,

The lady eating a cherry is burned into my brain. In the Blade Runner point-n-click game she would appear every time you’d fly out from the marketplace, because it was a prerendered cutscene.

neutron ,

Nah, we got cheaper and brighter LED lights blasting 24/7 and annoying everyone trying to sleep instead. Neon signs are retro now.

Snowcano ,

I mean, they’re no Tessier-Ashpool,SA. or anything.

_cnt0 ,
@_cnt0@lemmy.villa-straylight.social avatar

What’s wrong with Tessier-Ashpool?

Snowcano ,

Nothing, I was just saying that it’s a cool cyberpunk corporation name. For me the gaudy names like Meta and X are a little on the nose, true evil lurks under a veneer of banality which I think names like TA have.

_cnt0 ,
@_cnt0@lemmy.villa-straylight.social avatar

I had hoped, that you would notice my user name kind of resembles Count Zero, my avatar is taken straight from a Count Zero book cover, and my home instance is lemmy.villa-straylight.social

Well, you know what they say about explaing jokes and what that does to their funnyness. I guess it was not obvious enough.

Snowcano ,

Omg, I’m actually glad you mentioned it because I totally missed it!! I actually have to get around to reading the rest of the Sprawl books. Rereading Neuromancer now and might just keep going in the others.

What are things like at Starylight.social?

_cnt0 , (edited )
@_cnt0@lemmy.villa-straylight.social avatar

What are things like at Starylight.social?

Small and chill. Like it was an abandoned orbital revolving around the fediverse ;-)

yoppa ,

Wow it didn’t hit me until I read your post. Thanks OP.

Sigmatics ,

I still think it’s hilarious that Facebook renamed to Meta, and anything they did with the “metaverse” was a huge failure. It’s like they didn’t learn their lesson from Second Life.

AphoticDev ,
@AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Second Life isn’t owned by Meta. And just by the amount of money Second Life earned, and somehow still earns to this day, it was a pretty huge success. The only real success in the “virtual world” field. It’s not surprising somebody else would try to emulate that success.

Sigmatics ,

They don’t own it, that means they can’t know about it?

IsThisWhereWeGoNow ,

I think the confusion begins with your statement that Meta didn’t “learn their lesson from Second Life.” What’s the lesson they should have learned? Why should Meta have learned a lesson from something they didn’t own?

HakFoo ,

The big lesson from Second Life to me is that it’s a novelty for 95% of potential users, and a fixation for a few true believers.

VR and AR are in that era of radio in the 1920s, or personal computers in 1977. They’re interesting, people might gawk at one for a little while if given access to it, but right now, the long-term audience is going to be primarily enthusiasts who are passionate about the technology for its own sake.

We’re still waiting for a lot of details to snap into place to make it broadly appealing:

  • The hardware and setup needs to be turnkey. Newer kit is getting a lot closer, but I think it’s going to be hard because you have to factor in things like “setting up a wide enough floor space to avoid injuring yourself when using it” and “we haven’t really resolved that this gives a fair number of people violent sickness”
  • There need to be killer apps. Some of the VR experiences seem like they’d be fun, but eventually exhausting. It’s sort of like the motion control (Wii/Kinect/PSMove) trend-- people enjoyed them, but it seemed like it burnt through quickly, rather than becoming a core part of new gaming experiences going forward.

AR likely has an easier road to “killer app” because it can be applied to a bunch of vertical use cases; I’m picturing a fry-cook with a heads-up display that tracks how long each patty has been on the grille and its internal temperature, for example. Even if mainstream consumers never buy AR gear, there might be a million devices sold to businesses. Makes me think of Windows CE; the consumer launch was muted, but it was on a billion scanner-oriented devices for years.

RaoulDook ,

“There need to be killer apps” you say, but have you looked at the VR titles on Steam etc?

There are already a lot of fantastic VR games. Touristy cities even have VR gaming arcades where you can pay high prices to play on their VR kits.

The main barrier to wider adoption is the high price for good VR equipment, and the runner up is probably the complexity of setting up and using the systems. So yes that’s similar to PCs in the early days, maybe like the 90s were with PCs and the Internet.

HakFoo ,

While there may be good apps, I tend to define “Killer App” as a specific program that people not already in the ecosystem will explicitly buy into a hardware platform to run. The classic being VisiCalc for the Apple II and Lotus 1-2-3 for the IBM PC. On the gaming side, think about how many millions of Game Boys were sold so people could play Tetris; one suspects a significant number never saw another cartridge in their life. Or, perhaps less hyperbolically, Halo got a lot of people onto the Xbox platform, and FF7 did the same for the Playstation.

Does any VR title have the same degree of wide awareness and demand those programs had at their peak?

I could imagine someone trying to force the hand by moving a beloved franchise into VR-- imagine if the next Dragon Quest was VR-only, for example, and people who buy everything with that cute blue slime on it would also buy cute-blue-slime shape headsets. Meta has the resources to buy such a situation into existence, but it might not be what they’re after because it’s likely to still be only a narrow draw-- they’re used to building a platform for All The People, not just the audience who followed a single beloved franchise over.

AphoticDev ,
@AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Why would they learn from a mistake that wasn’t even a mistake and wasn’t theirs to begin with? Like, what is the point you are trying to make?

vidsid ,

They should have learned a lesson from Second Life. It was so much graphically better, more sophisticated and immersive even in 2d .

Users had a world where they could build, interact, buy land, make, buy, sell items and art, go to concerts, have virtual sex, attend classes, build a castle , explore, etc, etc. It would have been awesome in 3d.

This was like 20 years ago! Meta had such an opportunity there but instead had half avatars and chat rooms. It sucked.

Immersive_Matthew ,

A lot of it comes down to the Quest processors as they are just not very powerful. It had to be backwards comparable with the 835 Snapdragon processor form the Quest 1 and that is a 2016 processor. Makes senses it was so basic as they wanted to have many avatars on screen at once so things had the get cut…like legs. Ahahahaha.

I am not defending Meta, but just stating the facts and one of those facts is Zuck has said this is a long game and that it will be at least a decade before the Metaverse becomes something half compelling. I agree with that assessment. It is just not there today, but it will be.

iturnedintoanewt ,
@iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee avatar

Waiting for Weyland-Yutani…

bownt1 ,

building better worlds

GreenMario ,

Union Aerospace

delitomatoes ,

Time Warner

MalReynolds ,
@MalReynolds@slrpnk.net avatar

Be Warned !

iturnedintoanewt ,
@iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee avatar

DisnATTTimeWarner?

pachrist ,

Gesundheit.

veloxization ,
@veloxization@yiffit.net avatar

Now we just need companies to have their own militaries and then for someone to nuke one of their towers. We’d have the whole nine yards.

Manifish_Destiny ,

No thanks.

RegularGoose ,

Too bad. There’s no chance this doesn’t happen after the agricultural collapse. Well, the first bit, anyway.

dill ,
@dill@lemmy.one avatar

“He burned down half the city just to prove he was right and burned the other half just for fun.”

Dagwood222 ,

Source? Please.

orrk ,

He burned down half the city just to prove he was right and burned the other half just for fun.

Cyberpunk

Dagwood222 ,

Thanks.

Resonosity ,

Wake up Samurai…

Zink ,

I could absolutely see a not-too-distant future where competitors of megacorps have their assets attacked by the government’s military.

Mpeach45 ,
@Mpeach45@lemmy.world avatar

This has already happened many times. It’s just that those “competitors” are usually referred to as “ordinary people.”

Zink ,

Sad upvote.

I was thinking more as a mundane mechanism to gain market share though, not necessarily punishment or collateral damage.

…but I guess it applies even then. Sigh.

oldGregg ,

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    chatokun ,

    You should snopes check that one. They did acquire non working ships as payment, but they scrapped em. What you said is technically correct, but oversells it.

    ShaggySnacks ,

    Does killing union activists on the behalf of Coca-Cola count?

    The United Fruit Company aka Chiquita Brands International Sàrl asking the CIA to overthrow the Guatemala government, also count?

    Edit: Fix links

    dejected_warp_core ,

    Amazon is a standing military or armed navy away from beating the all-time high score.

    Gutless2615 ,

    You want a trip down “is this a cyberpunk dystopia company” name, go check out the data brokers on the data broker registries in Vermont and California.

    loudWaterEnjoyer ,

    California itself has about 517

    grilled_cheese_eater ,

    Acxiom, Experian, TransUnion, Oracle Data Cloud, CoreLogic, Axle, Equifax, Foursquare Labs, Inc., OnAudience, Nielsen, … … … …

    Lowered_lifted ,
    @Lowered_lifted@lemmy.world avatar

    Those names were always parodying the names of actual corporations. I’m pretty sure Weyland Yutani is basically supposed to be like Lockheed Mitsubishi

    PopularUsername ,

    I always thought this for the financial market: Standard & Poor

    Moody

    The Fed (as in, the past tense of feed)

    intelati ,

    fannie mae and freddie mac have this distinct dystopyian taste to me

    FlowVoid ,

    Those are just nicknames people use because the real names are long and boring.

    “Fannie Mae” is actually the Federal National Mortgage Association (aka FNMA). “Freddie Mac” is actually the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation.

    imaqtpie ,
    @imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works avatar

    TIL. I always wondered what the deal was with those names.

    vis4valentine ,
    @vis4valentine@lemmy.ml avatar

    Bill Clinton’s “Star Wars” program.

    DarthBueller ,

    Um… what? Ronald Reagan’s/Bush Sr.'s “Star Wars” program - LASERS IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE

    visak ,

    You’re about a decade off. It was started in the 80s and ended under Clinton. …m.wikipedia.org/…/Strategic_Defense_Initiative

    Syrc ,

    Normal people reading dystopian fiction: “wow, the author really portrayed well the downfall of humanity if we were to go down the wrong path”

    Billionaires reading dystopian fiction: “hey, you know what…”

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