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Forgot to pay my domain for a year and now I have to spend £2200 ($3000) if I want to get it back

I guess this is a cautionary tale.

I was recently having issues with my Gmail account that’s tied to my Epik ( a domain registrar ) account, so when I was supposed to renew my domain, I didn’t receive any e-mails about it. When I decided to randomly check on my website, it seemed to be down. So I checked Epik and a domain that usually cost £15 a year to renew now cost £400 to renew as it was expired.

As a teenager who does not have £400 to spend on a domain, I decided to just wait until the domain fully expired and buy it for a cheaper price.

After some time, the domain fully expired and GoDaddy decided to buy it as soon as it did, and charged me £2,225 to renew the domain. I don’t understand how a price that large is justified, considering that my website gets barely any visitors and I basically only use the domain for hosting stuff. No idea how hiking prices this much is legal

FiniteBanjo ,

I had a domain I bought from Namecheap like a decade ago and they’re still emailing me about the one I let expire lmao.

bartolomeo ,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

Aaahh capitalism. This is what business school graduates call “innovation” and “smart”.

But seriously, I’m sorry that happened to you. It’s predatory, abusive, and wrong.

dukatos ,

I knew GoDaddy is somehow involved as soon as I saw the title.

mtchristo ,

It is either an extortion from your domain registrar or sometimes opportunistic domain squatters taking over your domain for a year or two. Check for how long it was registered a put a reminder to get it back

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corsicanguppy ,

*any email

Pika ,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

Lesson learned, they regularly do this if you have a website that one of their crawlers hit as active. If you really care about it check in about a year later, chances are if you have an inquired within a year they’ll release the domain and you can pay normal sale price for it

TedZanzibar ,

Make an offer of $0.01. Assuming the responses aren’t automated, every time they reject it, raise the offer by 1c. Keep doing it till you hit the $15 mark and then just stop. It could waste literal years of their time.

hactar42 ,

Reminds me of a guy I knew who kept getting letters for a $10 parking fine he got while at university. He waited until they spent more in postage than the fine before paying it.

deltapi ,

My last year of uni I was broke. The previous year the parking passes had red letters, that year purple. That was the only difference. The colour. I traced over all the letters of my previous parking pass with a blue sharpie and parked for free all year.

ludw ,

Time to grab sungloc.to instead?

lando55 ,

sungloc.utus

lud ,

It’s legal because they bought the domain and they can charge whatever price they want if you want to buy it from them.

starshipwinepineapple ,

tldr - lesson learned. buy a new domain and move over to it.

but for those who want to learn something new - you are only renting your domains. If you fail to pay by the registration date then you generally get a grace period to pay more money to renew it. If you fail to pay before that period expires then the domain will be released. Some companies like godaddy will automatically buy the domain for another year (or more). But even if Godaddy doesn’t then it still goes up on a list of expiring domains and there are backorder services that will try to buy the domain or auction them off.

So in the end it doesn’t really matter what registrar you use. If you do not pay, it goes back to a list where people can see it is expiring and then you’ll get some people who either want to legitimately use that domain or more likely they are wanting to try to sell it to you or someone else for more than they buy it for.

And I saw someone mention file a complaint. I’m sorry to say that if you did not have money to renew the domain then you aren’t going to be able to do that either. This is called Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP) and the fee is between $1500-4000 for 1 to 5 domains.. Additionally, just because you file a complaint does not mean the issue will be resolved favorably or timely. These complaints can last years, and there is no guarantee you will get the domain back.

This is why you should always pay your domain rental fee. And if you don’t, then you need to either be willing to pay a ton of money to get it back or you will need to move on. Sorry its a tough lesson to learn but if you’re just a student then you probably weren’t using this to run a business or anything so in the end you are quite fortunate.

Cornpop ,

That’s a horrible domain name anyways. .xyz is trash, the name itself is long, hard to pronounce and sounds like gibberish. Time for an upgrade.

LunarLoony ,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That’s the second time I’ve seen someone cast xyz in a negative light. What’s wrong with it? (Genuine question, in case it needs saying)

NateNate60 ,

It’s just a hallmark of “I bought the cheapest domain name TLD available”.

That’s not necessarily bad if all you need is something to get the job done, but there is a stereotype associated with it.

crank0271 ,

The Boost Mobile of gTLDs

NateNate60 ,

Nothing wrong with Boost Mobile, or any other discount telecom provider either. It’s not like the phone signals taste different lmao

twei ,

What about “The ZipoApps of gTLDs”?

LunarLoony ,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Fair enough. I got one because it was the cheapest domain… though reading some of the other replies, I probably shouldn’t try to do anything like email with it!

vividspecter ,

It’s commonly used by spammers, so it could cause issues if you’re planning to use it for mail.

funkless_eck ,

.top is cheap right now and much easier to make into a phrase

MeThisGuy ,

bottom.or.top

possiblylinux127 ,

You can file a complaint if they just squat on it. Godaddy is terrible

gofsckyourself ,

I’ve always wondered how well that actually works. Anyone go through this process?

teuto ,

I had a squatter get mylastname.com after my dad died. After a while I guess they noticed that I registered mylastname.net and orffered to sell me mylastname.com I didn’t respond and they let it expire. I should probably register it.

atocci ,

The .com of my last name is taken by an actual business. Fine, no issue there. The .net of my last name however is being squatted on by Hover, who seems to have done the same with tons of last name domains and are selling email addresses on them in the form of [email protected]. The .org of my last name is currently redirecting to the .xyz of my last name, which looks like a family’s personal website that lists their address and phone number as a header at the top of the page.

BlueEther ,
@BlueEther@no.lastname.nz avatar

/me points to my lemmy domain, I also have <reallastname>.nz

You should see the confused looks when I say [email protected] and they reply with blueether@<reallastname>.nz and I say no… as I said it…

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

After some time, the domain fully expired and GoDaddy decided to buy it as soon as it did,

Oh yeah, that’s what happens when you pick scammy domain registrars. It is very possible that Epik auctioned your domain (after wall they kept it after the expiry date and payed fees) and then GoDaddy snatched it. This is what usually happens.

kautau ,

Not just scammy

Epik is an American domain registrar and web hostingcompany known for providing services to alt-tech websites that host far-right, neo-Nazi, and other extremist materials.https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/mobile-html/Epik#cite_note-1 It has been described as a “safehaven for the extreme right” because of its willingness to provide services to far-right websites that have been denied service by other Internet service providers.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epik

I’m in no way surprised at what they did, and in fact only surprised that it wasn’t them that bought the expired domain, but instead was godaddy

brbposting ,

Great to know, wouldn’t wanna be associated with someone who seems to specialize in far-right businesses.

Interesting, had to check and see: 4chan is registered with Cloudflare.

A part of me would rather these baby Hitlers operating in the open in case it’s harder for the FBI to follow them around the dark web. Downside is clearnet makes it easier for low-braincell nazis to communicate. Woulda thought we’d have socially stomped out extremism by now so doing it technologically wouldn’t be necessary…

Alas.

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

You’re missing the point, it wasn’t bought by godaddy. Epik auctioned the domain to godaddy after it expired, it’s common for registrars to sell domains to each other so they don’t get a bad reputation and make people think what you’re thinking.

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