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CodexArcanum , in Floating-point arithmetic

If I can’t be a number, none of you can!

(See also cascading nulls)

AeonFelis , in Oopsi Woopsi
xthexder ,
@xthexder@l.sw0.com avatar

All of those are dated after the meme. I think it’s safe to say that account is based on this meme, not the other way around.

AeonFelis ,

Yea, that’s what I meant. I just worded it badly.

isVeryLoud ,

This person is a treasure

whats_all_this_then , in Oopsi Woopsi

This PR/meme is my spirit animal

dan , in Oopsi Woopsi
@dan@upvote.au avatar

It’s funny but a obvious fake. There’s no such thing as “permanently” closing a Github issue.

ipkpjersi ,

I swear that used to be a thing (like instead of “wontfix” it was “permanently”) or maybe I’m misremembering.

muad_dibber , in Oopsi Woopsi
@muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Imagine meeting this person irl

mariusafa , in Oopsi Woopsi

Well how fucked up are his/her commits? Straight blinding matterial + useless?

bane_killgrind ,

Yeah good code is good code. Bad code is bad code.

FooBarrington ,

Wait, since when?

anzo ,

I think you forgot to mention code that actually runs. I am sure I’ve seen some repos that really work! /S

EdibleFriend , in Oopsi Woopsi
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

This is what being on the Internet does to people.

anarchyrabbit ,

And it is beautiful!

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

I SMELL YIFF ON YOU

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

And that’s how it spreads.

One of us. One of us. One of us.

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

ffxiv catgirls are a gateway to fur suits.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

It makes you fuxy wuxied?

fibojoly ,

Programming socks were a mistake.

const_void , in Oopsi Woopsi

Anime is cancer

mnemonicmonkeys ,

K.

xmunk ,

But so kawaii UwU

synapse3252 ,
AlmightySnoo ,
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

Omae wa mou shindeiru

kemsat ,

This isn’t anime’s fault. I’ve been into anime for like 30 years, and this phenomenon is new to the last like 6.

sukhmel ,

I think this phenomenon has been new to the last few years for about 20 years already

But I also don’t think there are many people who do this seriously

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

I love it when you talk dirty like that 🫦

9point6 , in Junior Dev VS Machine Learning

This looks more like a floating point issue than a mistake an LLM would make

Cosmicomical ,

There are no LLMs involved in this picture, to train an llm you'd need 100x the training data. The panel is about a normal ML model.

WitchHazel ,

The training data here is exaggerated more, actually. This task should take kilobytes, max, and would finish in a fraction of a second. Also, no self-respecting ML engineer would put together an ML system without accounting for every data type.

CodeMonkey ,

But a floating point issue is the exact type of issue a LLM would make (it does not understand what a floating point number is and why you should treat them differently). To be fair, a junior developer would make the same type of mistake.

A junior developer is, hopefully, being mentored by more senior coworkers who are extra careful with code reviews and would spot the bug for the dev. Machine generated code needs an even higher level of scrutiny.

It is relatively easy to teach a junior developer to write code that is easy to read and conforms to the teams style guide.

space , in Junior Dev VS Machine Learning

With all the recent hype around AI, I feel that a lot of people don’t understand how it works and how it is useful. AI is useful at solving certain types of problems that are really difficult using traditional programming, like finding patterns that aren’t obvious to us.

For example, object recognition is about finding patterns in images. Our brains are great at this, but writing a computer program capable of taking pixels and figuring out if the pattern is there is very hard.

Even if AI is sometimes going to misclassify objects, it can still be useful. For example, in a factory you can use AI to find defects in the production line. Even if you don’t get it perfect, going from 100 defects per 1M products to 10 per million is a huge difference and saves the factory a lot of money.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Agree, but the joke to me is business folks thinking AI is a miracle and they can just shove it everywhere to print money. Where us devs know what you mean, and would like to add it in where it makes sense. Business thinks it’s ready to replace us.

sj_zero ,

The key to "AI" is having a human there to take algorithms and apply them to the right problems.

This is what most people don't understand because many of the demos are quite impressive and narrowly tailored to prevent the fact from being obvious unless you know what you're looking for.

LarmyOfLone ,

Most useful application so far seems to have been to predict protein folding. Have to check up on that, it should allow to cure all sorts of bad things.

GnomeKat , in Junior Dev VS Machine Learning
@GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

This comic makes no sense

const_void ,

Yet 80 people upvoted it. Strange…

Imgonnatrythis ,

I too am confused about the decaf part.

Maven ,
@Maven@lemmy.world avatar

It’s saying that instead of spending all the resources needed to gather all of the training data for the LLM, just give a junior dev some coffee as the input instead.

The direct comparison is input and output. Coffee/training data is the input and the code is the output.

MajorHavoc ,

But…Decaf?!

Maven ,
@Maven@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t say it was a GOOD joke. I was just explaining what the joke was.

MajorHavoc ,

Sorry, yes. I’m just trying to “yes, and…”.

Maven ,
@Maven@lemmy.world avatar

Oh lol sorry. Tone is very hard to understand via text online.

WitchHazel ,

Yeah I don’t really get this, you can come to deterministic mathematic conclusions with ML, it just requires different structuring of the problem. While area of a rectangle may not need optimization, there are many such places that do, like file compression, which requires perfectly accurate results.

xor ,

that’s because you’re commenting on things you don’t understand in a sub not meant for you

GnomeKat ,
@GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

How is this sub not meant for me? lmao followed me from the other thread, cringe

xor ,

it’s for programmers, which you’re obviously not if you think this makes no sense…
and guess what, troll, that’s why you have a public comment history…
it’s a primary function… which i used, as intended, to see how much of a troll you are…

GnomeKat ,
@GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

im a rendering engineer. like GPU programming and engine programming.

xor ,

doubt

TWeaK , in Junior Dev VS Machine Learning

I feel this in AutoCAD (lack of) precision.

hansl , in Junior Dev VS Machine Learning

So are we not calculating the amount of training the junior dev took?

devilish666 OP ,

Junior dev just need to copy paste code from stackoverflow

Jako301 , (edited )

So they do the exact sams thing as the LLM?

variants ,

Yeah but they make you buy decaf

mrbaby ,

The LLM has read and copied every post on stack overflow, which is what separates the juniors from the seniors.

ilinamorato ,

They were trained before the task. The LLM was trained after.

Prunebutt ,

I don’t think that not educating people is an option. Even in the highly unlikely case that every job is hypothetically taken over by “AI”: humans like to learnand hone their skills.

hansl ,

Alternatively, I don’t think that not educating AI is an option.

Prunebutt ,

Why? Deploying or not deploying so-called AI is a choice we, as a society can make. The only reason why LLMs are pushed so hard by the industry is because some corporate gouls think that they can save money on labour with it.

aberrate_junior_beatnik , in dotnet developer

Ok, but we all should admit: .net is a terrible name.

nexguy ,
@nexguy@lemmy.world avatar

I totally agree.socialmedia

Honytawk ,

Still better than .dot

neutron ,

And then there’s .net classic and .net core. Making up two entirely separate names shouldn’t be difficult for marketing executives.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

.NET Core doesn’t exist any more. It’s just .NET now.

The classic version is mostly legacy at this point too.

NegativeInf ,

Just because it’s no longer supported doesn’t mean there’s not some poor intern refactoring spaghetti backend in a basement somewhere using it.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Sure, but you can still find plenty of info on it by searching for .NET Framework or .NET 4.6. All the documentation is still available. Its just not in the spotlight any more.

Zangoose ,

Hi, it’s me, the intern refactoring the spaghetti .NET core backend. I’m not in a basement though. AMA

neutron ,

I am so sorry, man. No one deserves this.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

Not an intern, but this week I’ve unraveled some mysteries in ASP.NET MVC 5 (framework 4.8). Poked around the internals for a while, figured out how they work, and built some anti-spaghetti helpers to unravel a nested heap of intermingled C#, JavaScript, and handlebars that made my IDE puke. I emulated the Framework’s design to add a Handlebars templating system that meshes with the MVC model binding, e.g.


<span style="color:#323232;">@using (var obj = Html.HandlebarsTemplateFor(m => m.MyObject))
</span><span style="color:#323232;">{
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  Name: obj.TemplateFor(o => o.Name)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}
</span>

and some more shit to implement variable-length collection editors. I just wish I could show all this to someone in 2008 who might actually find it useful.

Lmaydev ,

It is very much still supported and will be for a very long time.

You just shouldn’t start any new products using it.

neutron ,

My workplace insists on using dot net classic to recreate a twenty years old VB app that should be able to drink, vote, and drive.

Please send help. SQL queries are a spaghetti mess and all the original devs are probably gone or dead.

OsrsNeedsF2P , in Oopsi Woopsi

Found the original, looks like this one is a bit different

github.com/Xerasin/GCinemaCraftDownloader/…/1

Maven ,
@Maven@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

There are people in PR thread explaining it’s a reference to this screenshot. Which is fake, for the record.

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