Wow I almost forgot the original name! I was skeptical it would catch on, as name changes are very hard, but fortunately it was very early on and I bet a lot of other people have forgotten as well.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand cropped memes. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of memetics and linguistics most of the jokes will go over a typical reader’s head. There’s also the high contrast color pallette, which is deftly woven into the message. Lemmy users understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike cropped memes truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in longing for the bottom half of the text, “Join our Discord”. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as the meme’s genius wit unfolds itself on their smartphone screens. What fools…
The simps will be confounded by your use of vocabulary. Just imagine the ignoramuses and their drooling confusion. It almost makes me feel sorry for them.
This is sarcasm building upon the sarcasm of the previous post. I don’t give two fucks about this meme but I know people resent Discord as a substitute for forums. Those people are clearly Neanderthals, a species we now know to have had culture but certainly not computers.
You’re literally posting from the SDF’s instance. If you’re not going to support FLOSS, then consider migrating to a server which reflects your beliefs. (Also, go take an anthropology course so that you don’t embarrass yourself by dehumanizing people online.)
And the reason for my mention of sarcasm proves necessary. I can’t contribute code, so I contribute money to FOSS projects. And I think it’s stupid to dehumanize people. I haven’t embarrassed myself because you aren’t able to properly interpret my post building atop prior sarcasm.
There’s a reason I’m on the SDF instance and it wasn’t an accident. Learn to internet.
Sarcasm needs to be humorous; you’re merely rattling off insults. Anyway, it’s pretty uncommon that somebody literally “can’t contribute code;” anybody who can learn how to use a computer and post juvenile horseshit to Lemmy can learn how to write code. I’m a former professional musician; writing code is my backup career, taking less practice and effort than playing the piano. I encourage you to try putting in some effort; for the same time it takes to write around 500 comments/month on Lemmy, you could probably build a program that automates or simplifies some portion of your life.
And seriously, by doubling down on the idea that being Neanderthal is bad or deficient, you’re spouting some nasty rhetoric. It doesn’t matter whether you’re serious or not; eventually, you’ll forget that you were being ironic. “Those who play with the devil’s toys will be brought by degrees to wield his sword” and all that.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand cropped memes. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of memetics and linguistics most of the jokes will go over a typical reader’s head. There’s also the high contrast color pallette, which is deftly woven into the message. Lemmy users understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike cropped memes truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in longing for the bottom half of the text, “Join our Discord”. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as the meme’s genius wit unfolds itself on their smartphone screens. What fools…
Thanks. Good to hear one person gets it. Maybe its because I have answered so many of your comments that you were able to see the joke and others thought I was trying to nag at you for some perceived behavioral code violation or whatever. In any case. Please go on being awesome. Love reading your comments.
The Wikipedia BSD article is good (and accords with my own understanding, for what that’s worth). It says that Darwin, the system on which Apple’s Mac OS X is built, is a derivative of 4.4BSD-Lite2 and FreeBSD, and notes that 4.4BSD is the last release that Berkeley was involved with.
So, Darwin is as BSD as you can get (just like all the other BSDs!). OS X refers to those parts of the distribution which aren’t open-source, principally the GUI, but including a variety of frameworks, and anything which relies on these won’t be portable.
OS X as a whole is a UNIX 03 system. That’s equivalent to being a truly POSIX-compliant system (as opposed to being POSIX-like).
As other answers have noted, the userland parts of the OS are unsurprising to anyone with much unix experience, and I’ve rarely had any difficulty building portable-unix software on OS X.
In contrast, the non-userland parts of the OS are pretty different. Apple seems to be willing to innovate in those areas fairly cheerfully. I think (but I’m not positive) that these changes are formally part of Darwin. One of the most obvious differences is that launchd has replaced cron, at, inetd, and much of the startup infrastructure.
….But go ahead and tell us how mac and open source is antithetical
Edit: for the downvoters, yes Apple has had their hands in open source from the start and never stopped. Doesn’t mean they’re the goddamn FOSS Jesus
Open source software is at the heart of Apple platforms and developer tools. Apple manages the following projects and encourages your contribution.
OSX is not simply the non open source pieces, I get reading comprehension is hard for you but come on. People will upvote anything if it confirms their emotional biases lol
The entire internet is built on open-source technologies, as you probably know. That doesn’t make the internet as a whole an open-source thing. Transport technologies are open, a lot of hardware and software around it is not, and that’s still talking about the infrastructure, not what is actually running on top of all that.
It’s like saying Windows is open-source because they use curl. And Microsoft is as open to open-source code as long as they can train their LLM on it and sell it to you. Sure they provide money and developers to some projects, but Windows, Office, Azure will most likely never be actually open to code investigations, forget free.
Incorporating parts from a free and open-source Unix-like operating system does not make your OS FOSS. Apple would be the last company to contribute their MacOS source code.
You missed the point of my comment which was open source is not antithetical to Apple and it’s not absurd to use a mac to work on open source software.
To imply it is absurd to believe in open source and use a mac as part of development is fucking ridiculous. As I said in my comment open source has always had a place at Apple both historically and currently.
I used the FreeBSD connection to illustrate how open source is at the core of Apple sw. We don’t have to use that as an example though:
Open source software is at the heart of Apple platforms and developer tools. Apple manages the following projects and encourages your contribution.
As a hardware hacker, I’ve experienced Apple’s anti-FLOSS behavior. I was there when Apple was trying to discourage iPodLinux. In contrast, when we wanted to upstream support for the Didj, LeapFrog gave us documentation and their kernel hackers joined our IRC channel. It’s the same reason that people prefer ATI/AMD to nVidia, literally anybody to Broadcom, etc.
Your “entire fucking point” is obvious from the top-level comment you replied to; you’ve taken offense to somebody pointing out that writing FLOSS on Apple hardware is oxymoronic. And it’s a bad point, given that such a FLOSS hacker is going to use Homebrew or Nix in order to get a decent userland that hasn’t been nerfed repeatedly by an owner with a GPLv3 allergy and a fetish for controlling filesystem layouts. Darwin is a weird exception, not one of the easy-to-handle BSDs.
Also, what, are you not anti-Apple? Do you really think that a fashion company is going to reward you for being fake-angry on Lemmy?
You missed the point of my comment which was open source is not antithetical to Apple and it’s not absurd to use a mac to work on open source software.
so your argument is that apple doesn’t actively oppress your ability to program? And that it supports open source because it leeched off free bsd?
are you actually stupid, or are you on the apple payroll?
Supporting open source involves contributing to the amount of software available by open sourcing your own work.
The fuck are you high? Even microsoft, google, and meta support or have their own OSS projects. Apple just used someone else’s work as a base and doesn’t contribute to anything, what are you defending here?
I’m “defending” the fact that development on a mac is not some bastardized union, FOSS has had its place in the Mac world since forever and to say that using a mac to work on FOSS makes you a hypocrite or a joke is fucking dumb.
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Open source software is at the heart of Apple platforms and developer tools. Apple manages the following projects and encourages your contribution.
I mean, you’re using hardware from a company that is very blatantly anti consumer rights - thou shall not repair, thou shall not upgrade, thou shall not use third party anything, thou shall use Metal, for we despise OpenGL; not to mention that you have even less control on the mobile devices unless you pay a developer fee.
The fact that MacOS has some FOSS under the hood is completely irrelevant.
Yes, Apple, like many other corporations, uses FOSS components in their closed source software because it saves them money from free labor. There are also parts that make sense for them to distribute under a free license because they need developers to implement them in their software to work with their OS or browser.
That doesn’t mean they’re actually benefitting the FOSS community in any way, it just means the FOSS community is benefitting their closed source software for free.
How exactly does that show that open source is antithetical to Apple? Is that whole ass list I provided at the end of my comment just a 2 bullet point of osx, iOS???
No it’s not, so please actually read what you are emotionally reacting to first.
That’s not true for all of their projects, that whole ass list is absolutely not just stuff that use FOSS. They openly welcome contributions but you don’t know that because you didn’t actually look at what I provided.
My entire goddamn point is that it is NOT antithetical to use a Mac to write foss. How does your response relate to that AT ALL??
Its about Mac OS itself being proprietary, even though it certain part is foss. Apple do manage foss projects but you know, google, facebook and microsoft does that too. They defenitely need foss and do promote in some ways. And all theese are stupid dramas like “Microsoft<3Linux”
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it’s honestly just magical thinking, like sovereign citizens saying they’re “just travelling, not driving” to magically get around traffic laws, or people in the past murmuring prayers of protection against wolves.
might as well pour a line of salt around your house to protect against the robot invasion!
This is why I jumped ship to DuckDuckGo like 4-5 years ago already, never looked back
Coincidentally, yesterday I was quickly setting up a new computer for some testing whilst talking to somebody about another so I was half distracted. I did a search for some package to install and got absolute unusable crap. I didn’t understand, tried again, tried different search parameters and it just got worse, and then I noticed that, since this was a new computer, the browser was using google.
I switched to DDG, and first page first hit was what I needed.
DDG also has been in a steady decline and apparently has been using Bing as it’s back-end now. I’d love to use a self hosted open source browser, or of not that, an open source federated search engine, akin to Lemmy, but I don’t see either coming into existence anytime soon.
bing itself is unusable tho. I get a full page of “sponsored links” before any tentatively relevant search result pop up. DDG at least removes the sponsored bullshit.
For what it’s worth, DDG isn’t perfect either. There are plenty of times I have to use Google instead. I don’t keep track of how often it anything but it’s definitely not perfect.
apparently has been using Bing as it’s back-end now.
A lot of stuff uses Bing to search, as it’s the largest search engine with an official public API that any developer can just sign up and use. Voice assistants like Alexa use Bing too.
I was building up some packer stuff. Vsphere-iso plug-in. Tests were going fine and then for reasons I didn’t understand it said it could no longer find the cd creation tool it has just been using.
So I try a few things, nothing works. So I figure I have nothing to lose, I make a new folder to house all the tools in one place. Update Windows system environment path. Restart everything. VScode didn’t have my path statement, Google is of 0 fucking help, and now packer doesn’t work. I least it’s the weekend now.
Is such a weird complaint. You should aim for your codebase to be as small, simple and readable as possible, while your tests should be a specification that guarantees behavior is consistent between refactors. When you add behavior, you add tests, when you remove a behavior, you delete tests.
The size of either is independent of eachother. Small code bases that provide lots of features should be simple to read, but with a lot of tests.
The purpose of code is to solve a problem but don’t tell that to the newbies or they reduce the PHP codebase you spend full time managing to 10% that in Rust and take your job.
That’s just not true. I’m no discord fan but less accessible? They have an app for the mobile platforms as well as pc/mac, and browser-based support as well.
But oh no, they have a captcha!!! So much less accessible!!! The fuck you talking about
Nonsense! All you have to do is individually search each channel on the discord server and you just might find a brief thread discussing your issue 6 months ago, and then you just have to scroll for three minutes to find the comment with the resolution
I’m sorry but where is this random assumption that the documentation is on discord coming from?? It is extremely common for projects/organisations to have some kind of community discord, but I have never seen one that used it as their main documentation host. The discord are almost always just community hubs to chat with other community members.
I think the term documentation can and should include bug reports, community questions and answers, and project examples and guides that are often only shared in Discord servers in recent years.
Most of these servers would be better off as discussion forums, but spam and ancient software have really hurt them. Young web devs need to start giving a shit about open web again. Time to make something better than phpbb, wordpress, and discord.
Then I must be missing a lot of projects, because I don’t know of any which use discord for any of these things, besides questions and answers. And even then, only for informal stuff. Anything more serious goes on GitHub (or alternatives) or forums.
I run into this most often for video game mods’ and fan ROM hacks’ support communities; they might host their projects on GitHub, but any and all technical support happens exclusively on their Discord server.
If I can’t read or even search it without creating an account then it’s pretty useless as an information source. Same issue with Twitter and Instagram.
Opinion: Not if that community advertises itself to know/care about open source. Using a proprietary, privacy unfriendly service which uses predatory marketing to get people to spend money on bs stuff and arbitrarily paywall functionalities is both anti open source and anti people. Its enabling those companies. One could maybe argue for a strict bridge which only server to connect those who resist foss platforms.
Counterpoint: If said community is about a certain type of software, decisions over the type of platform matter more than popularity within teenagers. Coherence is important.
Putting everything on discord makes information unsearchable via search engines, which is objectivily not great. This recent habit is contributing to killing the web.
On a more subjective note, I just don’t like it. On the top of my head : Confusing interface, wont’ shut up about nitro, requires a phone number.
It is a bot that these communities on discord can invite to specific channels that will index the discussion to provide a search engine interface. Ideally search engines could leverage the answeroverflow API to help people get access to the technical discussion that now happens in discord instead of forums or mailinglists which do come up in search engine results.
I honestly think that’s the big part there. You can build a great app but it doesn’t matter if no one is using it and you don’t get feed back or it’s not shared around.
So, here we are trying to use the newest virtual 3rd space to create a community so that there is people will feel engaged in the product and share it around to add more.
But that’s also an issue with discord. It wants to be a social space more than a useful space and it usually gets entirely dominated by a few users with others less inclined to add in. It’s also accessible but not easy necessarily to stumble into if you are outside of the community trying to look into it more.
It just does the wrong job, slower and less efficient than old school forums or wikis, but it’s the tools we have to use in this less efficient connected Internet of the now.
if you’re trying to build a chatroom then any chat software goes but if you’re trying to build a community you should probably use something searchable and indexed, like real community software
also i find it laughable that users must already be on such platform, by your logic all communities should be mailing lists
You may find it laughable but it is what it is. Most people does not enjoy signing up for specific product forums. It’s much easier to just add yet another discord server to the list.
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