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RegalPotoo ,
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Basically none. The satellite link isn’t getting traffic directly between you and the server you are reaching - the satellite just relays the data to the nearest ground station that then uses the normal fibre network to get the rest of the way.

Even if you managed to reconfigure starlink to be a peering network rather than an access network, you’d still have the issue that the starlink network as a whole has orders of magnitude less bandwidth than even one under sea cable

Nougat ,

Russia can't take out all the "internet cables." Presuming we're talking about undersea cables, there are a fuckton of them. The logistics of taking out even a handful of those before the world takes action is beyond what Russia is capable of pulling off.

Even if they do manage to cut some, traffic would slow down, not stop. Then the cables would be repaired, and everyone would be more pissed at Russia than they already are.

It's nothing more than bluff and bluster. It would be a minor setback for the world, and have huge downsides to Russia.

dohpaz42 ,
@dohpaz42@lemmy.world avatar

I would imagine that it would be equally devastating to Putin to cut the cables as it would be to anybody else. I want to believe that he’s bluffing, trolling everybody to get their attention and reactions.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

The comments are from June. If they were going to do it, they’d have done it by now

FiniteBanjo ,

A large amount but at 500ms+ latency it might as well be useless for most applications.

PhlubbaDubba ,

I’m pretty sure it would result in the US internet being isolated from the rest of the worlds’

Which actually works against Putin since that means his troll farms also get cut off, meaning less new material for the useful idiots to keep other useful idiots freshly indoctrinated with.

snausagesinablanket OP ,
@snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world avatar

his troll farms also get cut off Why don’t we already have a hardware firewall for this?

PhlubbaDubba ,

Because generally where the West can extend their communications the people tend to provoke change for the better.

Cutting Russia off entirely for the troll farms is locking Russians into a Russian curated echo chamber, or a least doing that to an even worse extent than Putin is already trying to do himself.

solidgrue ,
@solidgrue@lemmy.world avatar

A cable-cutting war will be absolutely devastating to the global economy. It’s the modern equivalent of Mutually Assured Destruction. There are few viable contingency plans.

I say this as a telecom wonk: hope and pray and vote so that war never comes.

TropicalDingdong ,

I say this as a telecom wonk: hope and pray and vote so that war never comes.

All the more reason to support piracy.

BlameThePeacock ,

Piracy has nothing to do with global supply chains crashing.

TropicalDingdong ,

Gonna need something to watch while the world burns.

dohpaz42 ,
@dohpaz42@lemmy.world avatar

How ya going to download anything from servers outside of your country if the connection was cut?

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RubberElectrons ,
@RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

… That’s what he’s implying, download it illegally ahead of time.

BlameThePeacock ,

Almost none of it.

The amount of data flowing through undersea cables around the world is insane compared to the inter-satellite links available.

That being said, a lot of data that you use as a consumer on a daily basis doesn’t pass through any undersea cable at all. It’s more of a business problem than an individual problem.

The majority of the websites or online services you access are locally hosted on your own continent. Netflix, Facebook, Amazon, etc. all have local servers. Even for video games, most of the traffic is local just due to lag issues caused by too much distance.

What would break? Banking and financial institutions transferring money to or from overseas institutions to complete investments and loans ,Communications (Like e-mailing or calling a factory in China from the US, or contacting your Grandma in Thailand), International shipping, Flight tracking, etc.

While the satellites could take over for some of that, what would likely happen is specific companies would bid up the price for that limited capacity, and less financially valuable uses like being able to look at the latest lemmy posts from European submitters wouldn’t work.

DMBFFF ,
@DMBFFF@lemmy.world avatar

I suppose:

1a. that’d be a lot of cables to take out

2b. many cables are terrestrial

3c. Putin would tick off other BRICS members and other countries

4d. ship-to-ship—maybe get some airplanes and balloons involved

5e. American Navy attacks Russian vessels cutting cables, and Biden tells Putin to stop this folly

snausagesinablanket OP ,
@snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world avatar

The US has been able to send bandwidth via laser beam long distances for a while. I wonder if they could set up a network this way to bypass any bad cables. Even if only while they are being repaired.

Brkdncr ,

Not across oceans though. Earth is curved.

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