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FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Trump on what to do to fight climate change: “They lost 10,000 manufacturing jobs this last month. They’re building auto plants owned by China in Mexico and they think they can sell their cars in the U.S. because of these people. We’ll put tarriffs on those cars so they don’t enter the country because it will kill any auto worker. What they have done to business and manufacturing is horrible. Biden doesn’t go after people because China paid him millions of dollars. Him and his son. Ukraine gave him money. All these countries give him money. Why is he so loyal to Ukraine? The wife of the mayor of Moscow gave him money!”

Yes, he asked why Biden is so loyal to Ukraine.

SnotFlickerman , (edited )
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That such an absolute dumbfuck has a chance to become President (again no less for fucks sake!) is a god damned indictment on our system.

ConHoliousDonFrankle ,

This

More than anything, I’m embarrassed as an American that shit has gone this far, and we have to listen to Coherent Cathy for a third election.

HottieAutie ,

Biden is loyal to Ukraine because the wife of the mayor of Moscow gave gim money. The wife of the mayor of the capital city of the country that invaded Ukraine gave Biden money for him to use the US government support Ukraine against Russia. Makes perfect sense 👌

barsquid ,

Needs a fact check that Donald received millions from China.

Sir_Kevin ,
@Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Meanwhile “American” auto companies have been doing manufacturing in mexico for years.

spankmonkey , (edited )

These hosts are absolutely awful. Every time he rambles and lies, they give Harris a new topic. Occasionally they ask a question and barely point out that he didn’t answer it.

The hosts need to hold him to a debate, not let him play it like a Trump rally.

Harris is doing fantastic.

AlexanderESmith ,

They called him out on that insane 9mo abortion nonsense, and the people eating pets.

Honestly, that's the moon compared to usual.

spankmonkey ,

They half heartedly disagreed and let him repeat it again, just like they won’t correct him every time he lies about immigrant crime. It might be slightly better than past debates, but they are absolutely letting him run the show.

MataVatnik ,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly, that’s the moon compared to usual.

Real

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Everything he said is a lie. They would spend the whole debate rebutting him.

spankmonkey ,

Nah, actually correct him and mute his mic and he would storm off the stage like a giant baby.

barsquid ,

This is what should happen. Blatant lie means you lose time for corrections.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

It’s really infuriating. Every time he’s asked a question, and she gets a rebuttal, he just starts rebutting her rebuttal and they just let him. And half the time what he’s says has nothing to do with the question that was asked. They cut Kamala off pretty much every time.

dylanmorgan ,

They should have gotten this guy to moderate.

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/b282d5d3-8d89-45fb-80b8-bc0f203ab204.gif

spankmonkey , (edited )

Oh look, Harris wanted to respond out of turn one time and the hosts shut her down after letting Trump interrupt all night.

It really deems like he has been allowed to talk for twice the time as Harris. Anyone keeping track?

ape_arms ,

www.cnn.com/2024/09/10/politics/…/index.html

spankmonkey ,

Wow, his 15% more time that he was able to get by interrupting and not shutting up when his time was up sure felt a lot longer than it was.

leadore ,
@leadore@lemmy.world avatar

Oh look, Harris wanted to respond out of turn one time and the hosts shut her down after letting Trump interrupt all night.

That was so irritating! On the other hand, the more he talked the more idiotic he sounded so maybe it wasn’t such a bad thing.

sh00g ,

This is the first time we have seen moderators actually fact check Trump live. I’ll take that in spite of the interruptions.

spankmonkey ,

They were meek and let him talk over them. I guess more than zero is better than nothing, but it is a pretty low bar.

xmunk ,

Trump… doesn’t want Ukraine to win the war? He dodged the fucking question?

smokebuddy ,

he also dodged if his mass deportation would involve door to door military action

djsoren19 ,

Of course he doesn’t, it’s a miracle he’s smart enough to realize he can’t say he wants a Russian victory.

Brunbrun6766 ,
@Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

When asked how he would handle Israel differently he said “It would never have happened, how Russia invaded Ukraine” sir, that’s not what we’re talking about

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think he answered a single question.

Debs ,

He wants to be friends with Putin. He’s gonna dodge.

WindyRebel ,

The Draft. Questions. It’s all the same. He dodges more than the auto manufacturer.

CrayonMaster ,

He doged the easiest question of the whole debate.

Not hard, since he dodged the others too.

qantravon ,

He dodged every question and shoehorned in “the border” for all of them.

Fedizen , (edited )

he did have one answer to the obamacare question he had the “concepts of a plan” which is almost as stupid/funny as saying “my dog ate it”

It would have been the funniest thing in the world if Harris had latched on to that and been like "Maybe you should take another 6-10 years to golf and think about it then come back. "

HottieAutie ,

According to Trump, leaders all over the world are calling and going to see Trump to laugh at the USA.

So like, which ones? Which leaders are visiting Trump to laugh at the USA? And why is he accepting them over and over? Why are world leaders wasting their time laughing at the USA with Trump? Tell us, Trump!

SeaJ ,

Probably only Orban who is batshit.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

I think he has support from North Korea, Russia, Hungary, and Turkey possibly. He doesn’t have the support of Germany, France, UK, Canada, Spain… Nevermind I don’t have all night

mycodesucks ,
@mycodesucks@lemmy.world avatar

Hardly worth mentioning at this point, but this is illegal.

Mouselemming ,

Fool hasn’t realized, world leaders aren’t laughing at US, they’re laughing at HIM.

TropicalDingdong ,

Missed this one. Anyone got the highlights? Lowlights?

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

https://i.imgur.com/VgyiU2c.png

xmunk ,

Ey et er dergs!

Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

For those who didn’t watch, ^that isn’t like stupid internet humor… Trump was literally complaining about that on stage.

baronvonj ,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

And then doubled down when fact checked.

MataVatnik ,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

Just look at this thread by Top, you’ll get some of the highlights that were said

Cadeillac , (edited )
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

highlights

Just about everything Harris said

lowlights

EVERYTHING Trump said. Some of it was so absurd it was funny, but that is dangerous when there are people that will follow him unconditionally

Edit: just read all of FlyingSquid’s comments for the details

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Probably a lot of news coverage up tomorrow doing that.

LovingHippieCat ,

Dunno if anyone has brought this up but Trump basically never looked at Harris. Even had his face turned her direction and just looked at the moderators. The only time he looked at her was when he was forced to at the start where she went to shake his hand. Dude hates her so much.

tal , (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

I would expect that stuff like who you are facing, basic body language and stuff, is choreographed. I don’t think it’ll provide a lot of insight into inner thoughts.

I remember once reading a whole article on the issues with having a presidential candidate be photographed wearing a hat, which is a lot more esoteric than this sort of thing. Lot of time and money spent on optimizing it.

Mouselemming ,

Kamala might have worked on choreography, but Trump? No. Not only is he not going to let anyone tell him how to behave, he couldn’t repress his inner toddler if he tried. It only took a couple of subtle “I’m not touching you” - type nudges from her and he had a tantrump.

smokebuddy ,

Jon Stewart’s video just dropped on YouTube for where it’s available geographically (where it’s not just use a downloader it totally works)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtHn59wqdBc

tal , (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

He had one or two good bits in there, but man…I haven’t watched him recently, and I think that he’s a lot weaker in 2024 than he was during his first time around.

Like, I remember him doing a beautiful video montage a few times that had people “debating” their past selves, where they made inconsistent statements. I feel like that really added to the discussion. He could make a point and do so humorously.

He got the accolades he did for improving the political discussion from just a comedy show.

But most of this was pretty meh, IMHO.

That being said, I don’t know who’s writing for him these days. And his team didn’t have a lot of lead time to cover the debate, so I can kind of understand there not being a lot of great material there. Maybe they’ll have more-meaty stuff on the debate in a day or so.

rudyharrelson ,
@rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio avatar

These “moderators” should be ashamed of themselves. They couldn’t be more transparently treating one participant with kid gloves and letting him talk as much as he wants.

It’s what I expected, but I am still disappointed.

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

And all the dim people who watch will nod along and think the moderators were super fair.

gnomesaiyan ,
@gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world avatar

To be fair, while Trump is an adult, he never grew up, hence the kids gloves.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

yeah, looks like he got a solid 5 more minutes than her to say the same bullshit over and over

Omegamanthethird ,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

B+ for fact checking without bias (meaning not attacking both to just appear unbiased).

D for favoring one over the other with extra rebuttal time. Although I think it made Trump look worse.

FourPacketsOfPeanuts ,

I wonder if they gave a little because he’d caused so many fact checks they didn’t want the uninformed to mistake it all for being one sided

fukhueson ,

Kamala is aborting this 78 year old baby on live television.

EmpatheticTeddyBear ,

Someone get a tube of burn cream

FourPacketsOfPeanuts ,

oh my days

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/b2e10307-97da-441f-b28f-2121a4b992ba.webp

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That’s amazing.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

She has that face down perfect. Spot on

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

This is what I came here for.

HubertManne ,

can someone fact check if abdul is the head of the taliban?

SnotFlickerman , (edited )
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibatullah_Akhundzada

Mullah Hibatullah Akhundzada,[a] also spelled Haibatullah Akhunzada,[b] is an Afghan cleric who is the supreme leader of Afghanistan in the internationally unrecognized Taliban regime. He has led the Taliban since 2016, and came to power with its victory over U.S.-backed forces in the 2001–2021 war.

Cadeillac , (edited )
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

Deputy

  • Sirajuddin Haqqani
  • Mullah Yaqoob
  • Abdul Ghani Baradar

Did he not realize he wasn’t talking to the leader but instead his deputy, or did he just make all of it up?

BananaOnionJuice ,
@BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yep en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Ghani_Baradar

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

She did the job she went there to do. This debate will generate enough material for her campaign to use.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Trump on Harris’ racial identity: “I don’t care what she is. Whatever she wants to be is okay with me. All I can say is I read where she was not black where she put out and then I read that she was black and that’s okay with me.”

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Trump continues after Harris rebuts pointing out his racism: “This is the most divisive presidency. They are destroying our country. If we go back many years, lots of people agreed with me on the Central Park Five. They plead guilty. Then they plead they’re not guilty. But that was years ago because there’s nothing now. I built one of the greatest economies in the history of the world. I’m going to build it again. They have no idea what the economy is. She IS Biden. The worst inflation we’ve ever had, a horrible economy and she can’t get away with that.”

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

“She has a plan to defund the police. She has a plan to confiscate everyone’s gun. She has a plan to not allow fracking in Pennsylvania and not anywhere else. That’s her plan until a few weeks ago.”

Zerlyna , (edited )
@Zerlyna@lemmy.world avatar

Wait didn’t he say he would defund the police earlier in the debate? He has so much babble. And I love how she said they have guns too.

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

She IS Biden.

i’m. fucking. dead.

ape_arms ,

“where she put out”…was that a comment about sexual proclivity?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Almost certainly.

qantravon ,

No, he was saying that she “put out a statement” about her racial identity.

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

and that’s okay with me

It was a moment of great personal self-affirmation for Kamala Harris. A bar had been met.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I keep quoting this bit from The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy in the hopes that it will happen to Trump. It hasn’t happened yet, but if we’re lucky tonight…

his own major intestine, in a desperate attempt to save humanity, leapt straight up through his neck and throttled his brain.

YummyYugi ,

Why are you wishing death on someone?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, I am wishing that Donald Trump’s intestine ends up throttling his brain like in a comedic science fiction novel.

On a same level of things that are possible, I am also wishing I held the world speed record for the 100 meter hurdles.

YummyYugi ,

Oh so we can wish death on people and as along as we’re not capable of making it happen it’s okay?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry… you’re asking if it’s okay to wish someone die in a way that is literally impossible? Sure, why not. Go for it.

YummyYugi , (edited )

Seeing as I can’t actually make it happen and it’s not going to happen because I wished for it, that means its okay with you for me to wish for your death?

Let’s maybe focus instead of not wishing death on people? How about I wish Trump was in jail for his crimes and wasn’t able to compete in the race.

FlyingSquid , (edited )
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You are welcome to wish that my large intestine becomes sentient, makes its way through my body up to my brain and then starves it of oxygen for the betterment of humanity.

Why do you think I would care about that even a little?

Mog_fanatic ,

Careful dude. The small intestine is weak and dumb. But that large one? It’s sneaky. Just been biding it’s time until it strikes. You open that window and you might not be able to close it.

GoldenDeLorean ,

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    ikidd ,
    @ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

    Clutch those pearls harder, daddy.

    queue ,
    @queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Yes.

    mbtrhcs ,

    I used to be principled like you, but this man has the potential to cause death and destruction on a scale so unfathomably larger than one person. Would I prefer he face justice? Absolutely. But at some point “not wishing death on someone” flies in the face of the greater good of humanity

    Arbiter ,

    “I got involved with the Taliban” -Donald Trump

    dragontamer ,

    This needs to get memed and shared everyfucking where.

    This is it people. We need to meme this debate. Otherwise, the fucking Republicans will forget this shit.

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